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Posted by eolafan on Saturday, August 9, 2003 8:54 AM
I also have fond memories of Stevens Point when I lived in Wausau from 1974-1978 and visited Point on business many times and usually managed to grab a burger and eat if by the shops to watch the SOO units and trains all the time. Very good place also under WC control, many F45 and SD45, etc., still a great place to watch trains. I last visited there just before the takeover by CN and still saw lots of power. Good to hear about Railworld taking the SD and F45 units. The F45 is one of my personal favorites (glad to see the Illinois Railway Museum in Union, IL saved one..a ATSF unit but I think it is an FP-45, no big deal). Oh, my memories of those days in Wisconsin. HEY DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE OLD SOO LINE F-7 THAT HAD ITS TOP NOSE LIGHT REMOVED AFTER ACCIDENT REPAIR TO EMERGE WITH ONLY THE NOSE DOOR LIGHT, VERY STRANGE LOOKING, BUT SOMEHOW VERY EASY TO LOVE! Jim
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 9, 2003 10:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Icemanmike

I guess this is a red flag for us rail fans to get off our rears and get as many pics before the dissapear. I already missed out on CNW. I guess you could say im learning from my mistakes!
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Saturday, August 9, 2003 3:49 PM
My guess is, CN will keep anything that is compatible with their "own" locos, e.g. the newer/better GP40s, SD40's and maybe the 7xxx 45's that were rebuilt. (Sorry, but probably no F45 in CN paint!)

And I'm still saddened that the maroon and gold will disappear! :(

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 3:00 PM
I saw an ex-WC SW1500 (I think) repainted in CN colors with WC initials, so CN is repainting some WC equipment. How far this goes, we'll see. I think we'll see the exx-Algoma Central SD40-2s, GP38-2s and GP40s repainted, as well as the reconditioned ex-WP GP40s. These (and the ex-FRVR SD35) are the most-liked units on the ex-WC roster. -Dean F
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 11:10 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

I talked to the track crew, here in Buffalo Grove. They say that CN has no intention as of yet to repaint any equipment. They have plans to gradually get rid of WC engines and bring in there own engines. The track crewmen said that CN uses different engines. Don't ask me what kind the two use, I cannot tell one engine from another. (WC is Maroon and Gold, CN is Black, Red and White) I think WC is made by EMD and CN is made by I would guess Alco??
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 11, 2003 11:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by TARGUBRIGHT

I talked to the track crew, here in Buffalo Grove. They say that CN has no intention as of yet to repaint any equipment. They have plans to gradually get rid of WC engines and bring in there own engines. The track crewmen said that CN uses different engines. Don't ask me what kind the two use, I cannot tell one engine from another. (WC is Maroon and Gold, CN is Black, Red and White) I think WC is made by EMD and CN is made by I would guess Alco??
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In Western Canada it has been a long time since I saw a CN ALCO, all are now GE or GM. It is ORANGE not red! No WC west of Winnipeg but a few IC units in trailing positions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:37 AM
I live on the Plymouth sub in eastern Wisconsin.Since the CN takeover almost 2 years
ago,the middle portion between Kiel and Saukville has been "OUT OF SERVICE".Can
anyone tell me what the future holds for this line? I've heard that the Wisconsin&Southern might be interested in it.
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Posted by sd452 on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:47 PM
I live a block from the old WC yard in Neenah Wis. and All the WC locomotive that go through here are either SD45s or GP40s. The local gets Illinois Central locomotives and the yard switcher is a CN uint.
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Posted by eolafan on Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:18 AM
I always try and stop by the old yard in Appleton, where I frequently see a unit (sometimes WC but the last time it was a CN unit) sitting there shut down (i.e. "dead"0 next to the yard office) when not working the yard. How often do any of you see a unit sitting shut down these days? Jim
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 15, 2003 12:38 PM
Not much to add except being from near Boston, MA, we don't get to see much of CN/WC out here but last weekend I was rail-fanning in London, Ontario Canada and i got to see a WC engine in a consist - nice color scheme, as well as a first for me, I got to see a CN slug attached to a road consist.

I railfan out in London, Ontario about 4 times every year. Does anyone know where the shop is that makes the train engines out there? I read about the shop all the time in the weekly Trains.com online issue, but have never found it on my trips. Thanks for your help.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 16, 2003 5:10 AM
Yea once ya see an WC loco...your in love!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:12 PM
Hi i am a new member and i am12 COUGH thirteen years old. I know a lot about the WC. I live in New Brighton Minnesota. I go up to the ( now CN) wc depot a lot . I know the engineers and my uncle used to work there . They welcome me there and i usually wait for the NorthTown transfer to go by.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fuzzybroken

My guess is, CN will keep anything that is compatible with their "own" locos, e.g. the newer/better GP40s, SD40's and maybe the 7xxx 45's that were rebuilt. (Sorry, but probably no F45 in CN paint!)

And I'm still saddened that the maroon and gold will disappear! :(

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:23 PM
yes, there will be no F45s in CN paint . That just shows you that most railroads these days dont care about HISTORICAL locomotives. I mean these engines ( some ) pulled Santa Fe's Super Chief. I remember reading a topic that said more kids are interested in the PS2 . Now i have one but i spend most of my time drawing trains or watching them! So yes , there is hope for young people like me to like trains.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 PM
Anybody model trains around here? I usually buy stuff related to the C&NW , Soo Line , WC , and BNSF. Off the topic but at Northtown the otherday i saw two SOO SD60s. So for all you Soo fans they still havent got to the SD60s yet . Thank god. Even though i was never around to see the soo i still love the railroad. I went to Shoreham the other day . It is really sad to see the INTERMODEL FACILITY. That makes me sad!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:34 PM
Anybody feel how i feel about the CN .They suck . So does the CP. Too many mergers , the wc and soo were alot better then these railroads in my opinion.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 14, 2004 2:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

In Chicago, WC still gets into town over its own line, which connects with the B&OCT Altenheim Subdivision at Forest Park. The east end of the Altenheim is out of service due to condemned bridges, so the trains head south over the BRC to Clearing.

One WC train gets on the EJ&E at Leithton, and takes the J to Munger, where it heads east on the IC (ex-CC&P) line to Hawthorne Yard. This round-trip probably would be the one that handles through business between WC and other CN components (that's just a guess).

Of course, WC also has direct runs to the UP at Proviso, and possibly to BNSF as well. Anything for the eastern railroads would probably go over the WC/B&OCT/BRC routing mentioned above.

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