Quentin
USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman
Originally posted by GP40-2 The Bailey Mine alone has now become the most productive coal mine in the U.S. [/quote More produtive than the big mines in the Powder River Basin? Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar. Reply dwil89 Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: NY 913 posts Posted by dwil89 on Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:02 PM The mine planned to reopen in Windber, Pa has enough capacity for 30 years of mining...it is planned to be hauled out by rail on NS off the South Fork Secondary,(which branches off the NS Pittsburgh Division Mainline near Johnstown, Pa..) as spurs off the Secondary into Windber still exist...though the trackage and right of way in Windber will need some restoration prior to resumption of service into the Mine. Another mine, associated with Mine 33 in Ebensburg, is planning to open a shaft near Cresson Pa, and this coal will reportably be trucked to loadouts, including Sonman in Portage, which is already loading 2 or 3 NS trains a week. David J. Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsaltoonajohnstown Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:21 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding QUOTE: Originally posted by GP40-2 The Bailey Mine alone has now become the most productive coal mine in the U.S. More produtive than the big mines in the Powder River Basin? Not the entire PRB, but it is bigger than any one of the individual mines there. QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar Adrian: How much Anthracite {sp?}, coal is still produced up in that area...is it still a major business activity....? I was not sure if mining of the "hard coal" was still currently being done..... Pretty big I guess. All there is in most of those towns. When I drag the trailer up there behind the diesel, I usually have to wait for awhile for my turn at the breakers. Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply jockellis Member sinceMay 2002 From: Just outside Atlanta 422 posts Posted by jockellis on Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:02 PM G'day, Y'all, Sure would be nice if the mines serviced by the East Broadtop would re-open and that old narrow gage would go back into the coal hauling business with steam locomotion. When I went up there last September, I wanted one of the old hoppers. They were so small and cute. Jock Ellis Cumming, GA US of A Jock Ellis Cumming, GA US of A Georgia Association of Railroad Passengers Reply old462000 Member sinceFebruary 2001 From: US 10 posts Posted by old462000 on Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:10 PM Yes. I live here near Norfolk, Va. and the coal keeps acomin. Local newspaper had an article which said NS was increasing hte shipments to Norfolk. Foreign export was up 20% since this time last year. Seems foreign export is good. Hope so, makes my stock feel good! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts PRB vrs Penna Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:35 PM Bailey (CONSOL) is the largest deep mine producing about 10+ million tons /year. Black Thunder in PRB is the largest strip operation at 70 million tons/year. Their seam of coal is 69 feet thick! tom Reply Edit Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:37 PM ....Good ole King Coal, bring it on....Good for certain regions of our country. Quentin Reply Murphy Siding Member sinceMay 2005 From: S.E. South Dakota 13,569 posts Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, September 25, 2005 10:18 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tabiery Bailey (CONSOL) is the largest deep mine producing about 10+ million tons /year. Black Thunder in PRB is the largest strip operation at 70 million tons/year. Their seam of coal is 69 feet thick! tom That's kind of what I was thinking. Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar. Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Monday, September 26, 2005 8:56 AM ...A vein of coal 69' thick is awesome....!! That allows removal rather fast. Much at one spot. Quentin Reply tsgtbob Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Shanksville PA 311 posts Posted by tsgtbob on Monday, September 26, 2005 11:38 AM PBS coals is working with KW Reese to re-open the Coleman Sub from Shanksville to, where else, Coleman Station. Coleman Station is on the S&C sub, running from Rockwood Pa. to Johnstown Pa. This was one of the B&O's biggest coal branches back until the early 60s. Plans are for the branch to re-open in late Oct. The sub was originally laid in the 1940s to access the mines in Stonycreek township. BTW, anthricite coal is mined in the NE corner of PA, here in the SW corner it's bituninous (sp) The Windber ops for NS have been on the upswing for about 2 years now, running out to a plant in Central City/Carinbrook 'metro' area. Best place to see the power, which is usally SD70s in Conrail, is in Carinbrook, next to the Shade Central City School. Reply dwil89 Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: NY 913 posts Posted by dwil89 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:43 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by tsgtbob PBS coals is working with KW Reese to re-open the Coleman Sub from Shanksville to, where else, Coleman Station. Coleman Station is on the S&C sub, running from Rockwood Pa. to Johnstown Pa. This was one of the B&O's biggest coal branches back until the early 60s. Plans are for the branch to re-open in late Oct. The sub was originally laid in the 1940s to access the mines in Stonycreek township. BTW, anthricite coal is mined in the NE corner of PA, here in the SW corner it's bituninous (sp) The Windber ops for NS have been on the upswing for about 2 years now, running out to a plant in Central City/Carinbrook 'metro' area. Best place to see the power, which is usally SD70s in Conrail, is in Carinbrook, next to the Shade Central City School. Actually, SD80MACS are quite prevalent along this line...otherwise known as the South Fork Secondary..Listening to your scanner, you will hear crews calling the Pittsburgh East Dispatcher for Form D's to move along the line....you will hear numbers in the 7200 series, such as 7201, 7207, etc....these are ex-Conrail SD80MACS...If you are seeing ex-Conrail SD70's, you'll be seeing Standard Cab units numbered between 2557 and 2580. Crews heading with empties Southbound from South Fork down to Cairnbrook will get a Form D from 'FORK' to 'CAIRN'....and vice versa for loaded Northbounds. If they are loading at Huskins which is another loadout between South Fork and Cairnbrook, they will get FORM D's from 'FORK' to 'NAG'...and vice versa heading back North.,Pittsburgh East Dispatchers Dan Meese, Rich Borkowski, Rich Broyles, Jen Sittar,and Jen Patterson, are some of the Dispatchers that crews on the South Fork Secondary(and the Mainline) can be routinely heard talking to on the radio..... David J. Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsaltoonajohnstown Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:26 PM I wonder if any of the Southern IL mines will start up again. There's still plenty of coal left there. Dave -DPD Productions - Featuring the TrainTenna LP Gain RR Scanner Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply blhanel Member sinceJanuary 2002 From: Cedar Rapids, IA 4,213 posts Posted by blhanel on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:34 PM Would any of that coal be possibly heading west? The reason I ask is that Sunday evening, on the way home from Chicago, I witnessed a WESTBOUND loaded coal train crossing the Mississippi at Clinton. Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net. Reply dwil89 Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: NY 913 posts Posted by dwil89 on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:50 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by blhanel Would any of that coal be possibly heading west? The reason I ask is that Sunday evening, on the way home from Chicago, I witnessed a WESTBOUND loaded coal train crossing the Mississippi at Clinton. Much of the coal out of South Fork heads East, and some of that also goes to a local powerplant near Johnstown...I don't know if anything coming out of Bailey heads West... David J. Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsaltoonajohnstown Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:55 PM Bob from Shanksville....Thanks for the late info on the Coleman Sub....Please keep us up on the latest as that project develops. Brian and I have been talking about that project now for several months and have real interest in it....{I'm originally from Stoystown}..... Quentin Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:05 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by tsgtbob PBS coals is working with KW Reese to re-open the Coleman Sub from Shanksville to, where else, Coleman Station. Coleman Station is on the S&C sub, running from Rockwood Pa. to Johnstown Pa. This was one of the B&O's biggest coal branches back until the early 60s. Plans are for the branch to re-open in late Oct. The sub was originally laid in the 1940s to access the mines in Stonycreek township. BTW, anthricite coal is mined in the NE corner of PA, here in the SW corner it's bituninous (sp) The Windber ops for NS have been on the upswing for about 2 years now, running out to a plant in Central City/Carinbrook 'metro' area. Best place to see the power, which is usally SD70s in Conrail, is in Carinbrook, next to the Shade Central City School. Hey Bob - or should I say neighbor. (I'm from Somerset behind Wills Church near the windmills.) I've been watching the PBS line to see when it will be up and running agian. I took a drive by that area last Friday. Looks like a fair amount of tie replacement has been done and that they're working near the connection with the S&C. In June, I talked to a guy from PBS. He said they were only planning on running a few trains. Seems like PBS is putting a lot of money into the line for only a few trains so I'm hoping he's wrong on that aspect. I haven't heard of when trains will start running on the line again so if you hear anything, please post it here. I'm anxiously awaiting to see 'em go there. In the meantime, here's a few pictures I took of the line. http://bbrant.rrpicturearchives.net/archivethumbs.aspx?id=4756 Brian Reply adrianspeeder Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Harrisburg PA / Dover AFB DE 1,482 posts Posted by adrianspeeder on Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:38 PM Cool pics! Nothin' quite like Pennsylvania coal railroadin' Adrianspeeder USAF TSgt C-17 Aircraft Maintenance Flying Crew Chief & Flightline Avionics Craftsman Reply tsgtbob Member sinceDecember 2004 From: Shanksville PA 311 posts Posted by tsgtbob on Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:55 PM Hey Bbrant, ever been to the model rr club in the basement of Newberry's? The "O" scale (2 rail) layout's mine. BTW look for my byline in the Daily American. ( I'm the guy who sneaks in the train stories, and gets ALL of the military story assignments) dwil89, the coal out of Carinbrook is exported to China. It comes from a mine near Berlin. I'm glad you can pick up scanner calls from where you are, cause I can't and I'm 7 miles as the crow flies. BTW, anything newer than a GP-40-2 looks all alike to me. Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:04 PM ....How about "www.railroadradio.net".....Live railroad scanner railroad communication.... Quentin Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:37 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by tsgtbob Hey Bbrant, ever been to the model rr club in the basement of Newberry's? The "O" scale (2 rail) layout's mine. BTW look for my byline in the Daily American. ( I'm the guy who sneaks in the train stories, and gets ALL of the military story assignments) Bob - Right after I posted I took a look at your profile....when I saw "photojournalist" I was able to put 2 & 2 together. And yes, I have been to the club. As a matter of fact, I have a layout there under the steps and next to an O scale (2 rail) layout. [:D] Small world (and getting smaller)!! Are they still looking to have the line in service by the end of Oct? I'd like to get some pictures when trains start running again. I just took my camera into the shop on Monday so it should be fixed just in time. Brian Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:39 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Cool pics! Nothin' quite like Pennsylvania coal railroadin' Adrianspeeder Thanks. And I couldn't agree more.....nothing like watching a string of coal cars going down the line!! Brian Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:07 PM ...Better yet, to see them coming UP the line and better yet to have heard them being pulled and...pushed up the line with hard working steam locos....Yep, it shows my time line but that's the way it is....The ground used to shake when we kids were close to one blasting up from Kantner and crossing the 218 bridge where we were swimming, etc...and of course have cinders rain down on us as it passed...... Quentin Reply 12 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murphy Siding QUOTE: Originally posted by GP40-2 The Bailey Mine alone has now become the most productive coal mine in the U.S. More produtive than the big mines in the Powder River Basin?
QUOTE: Originally posted by GP40-2 The Bailey Mine alone has now become the most productive coal mine in the U.S.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar Adrian: How much Anthracite {sp?}, coal is still produced up in that area...is it still a major business activity....? I was not sure if mining of the "hard coal" was still currently being done.....
Jock Ellis Cumming, GA US of A Georgia Association of Railroad Passengers
QUOTE: Originally posted by tabiery Bailey (CONSOL) is the largest deep mine producing about 10+ million tons /year. Black Thunder in PRB is the largest strip operation at 70 million tons/year. Their seam of coal is 69 feet thick! tom
QUOTE: Originally posted by tsgtbob PBS coals is working with KW Reese to re-open the Coleman Sub from Shanksville to, where else, Coleman Station. Coleman Station is on the S&C sub, running from Rockwood Pa. to Johnstown Pa. This was one of the B&O's biggest coal branches back until the early 60s. Plans are for the branch to re-open in late Oct. The sub was originally laid in the 1940s to access the mines in Stonycreek township. BTW, anthricite coal is mined in the NE corner of PA, here in the SW corner it's bituninous (sp) The Windber ops for NS have been on the upswing for about 2 years now, running out to a plant in Central City/Carinbrook 'metro' area. Best place to see the power, which is usally SD70s in Conrail, is in Carinbrook, next to the Shade Central City School.
Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net.
QUOTE: Originally posted by blhanel Would any of that coal be possibly heading west? The reason I ask is that Sunday evening, on the way home from Chicago, I witnessed a WESTBOUND loaded coal train crossing the Mississippi at Clinton.
QUOTE: Originally posted by tsgtbob Hey Bbrant, ever been to the model rr club in the basement of Newberry's? The "O" scale (2 rail) layout's mine. BTW look for my byline in the Daily American. ( I'm the guy who sneaks in the train stories, and gets ALL of the military story assignments)
QUOTE: Originally posted by adrianspeeder Cool pics! Nothin' quite like Pennsylvania coal railroadin' Adrianspeeder
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