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Amtrak traveling incognito or dressing for halloween? Need help ID'ing this train....

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Amtrak traveling incognito or dressing for halloween? Need help ID'ing this train....
Posted by Trainnut484 on Monday, September 19, 2005 1:00 PM
This past Saturday, caught this train with Amtrak power making a station stop here at Union Station KCMO. The train has what looks like plastic tarp covering all the cars. Kinda looks like a halloween "ghost" train. The only reporting marks to what the train could possibly be is a sign "Rail Cruise America" on one of the cars (see 6th photo). Sorry in advance on the quality on a couple of the photos. Hopefully you Amtrak and passenger gurus can shed some information on what this train actually is and where did it originate and terminate?



BTW...Passenger equipment on the right is for the KC Rails Expo this coming weekend here at Union Station












Thanks for your help [:)]

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Posted by ndbprr on Monday, September 19, 2005 1:39 PM
I'd do a google serach for Rail Cruise America. Looks to me like you saw a refurbished set of cars being delivered and covered with plastic at the rebuilder so the grafitti guys don't mark them up before delivery to the customer.
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Posted by StillGrande on Monday, September 19, 2005 2:01 PM
Look here http://www.railcruise.com/index.html?view=category&CatID=2&show=expand&ViewID=2&sid=0.742550001127156483&cid=&tid=

It is a "train for hire" charter available for different functions. Prices are based on distance, number of people, and level of service desired. They also do dinner trains and seem to be based out of St. Louis.
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Posted by chad thomas on Monday, September 19, 2005 2:28 PM
They could be VIP cars for the shackle train.[;)]
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Monday, September 19, 2005 3:06 PM
Okay [:D]. Thanks for the link above. I do remember those F units at the St. Louis Union Station from a trip there a couple of years ago. Just didn't connect the company name with the train.

QUOTE: Posted: Today, 13:39:17 by ndbprr
I'd do a google serach for Rail Cruise America. Looks to me like you saw a refurbished set of cars being delivered and covered with plastic at the rebuilder so the grafitti guys don't mark them up before delivery to the customer.

That would make sense.

Thanks again for all the info

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Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:59 AM
That is a special insulated wrap that Amtrak is putting on all its cars to make the air conditioning and heat more efficient, sort of like the blankets people have on hot water heaters. Amtrak hired several wrap artists to design and install the product.
There will be a big article about this in Trains magazine next April. With the money Amtrak saves they hope to bring back several stored SDP40Fs into operation on high speed trains.
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:39 AM
Actually, if you zoom in on the second to last photo (click on it), you can just make out the sign for Rail Cruise America on the left end of the car. I don't know if that is delivery wrap, it looks more like custom reusable covers for each car.

Good one Dave.[:p]
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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:48 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson

That is a special insulated wrap that Amtrak is putting on all its cars to make the air conditioning and heat more efficient, sort of like the blankets people have on hot water heaters. Amtrak hired several wrap artists to design and install the product.
There will be a big article about this in Trains magazine next April. With the money Amtrak saves they hope to bring back several stored SDP40Fs into operation on high speed trains.
Dave Nelson


SDP40Fs on the high speed runs.[:0] D** it Dave, don't mess with my emotions like that.[:D]
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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson

That is a special insulated wrap that Amtrak is putting on all its cars to make the air conditioning and heat more efficient, sort of like the blankets people have on hot water heaters. Amtrak hired several wrap artists to design and install the product.
There will be a big article about this in Trains magazine next April. With the money Amtrak saves they hope to bring back several stored SDP40Fs into operation on high speed trains.
Dave Nelson


[:p] Ha, ha, ha, Dave, really funny!
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Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:41 PM
I thought it was part of AAR's new program to promote "safe railroading"
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:00 PM
For those interested in the facts, it is actually a piece of modern art called "The Moving Drawing of Jheon Soocheon." RailCruise America was hired to charter the train.

This website has an article about the train and the project --
http://www.artdaily.com/section/lastweek/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=14781&int_modo=2

This website has more information in English and Korean --
http://soocheon.com/movingdrawing/movingline/en_schedule.htm
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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:23 PM
Well, that answers my question about the passenger cars wearing "clothes"! The same train passed right by my house last week sometime, and I posted a similar question and didn't get an answer. That's pretty interesting...

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Posted by Tharmeni on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:49 PM
There ARE passengers on board (check the dome car). I'm not sure we answered what this is.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:51 PM
Does anyone have a schedule on this train? I would like to know when it will be in Los Angeles,and which line it will arrive and leave on[:)].
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dknelson

That is a special insulated wrap that Amtrak is putting on all its cars to make the air conditioning and heat more efficient, sort of like the blankets people have on hot water heaters. Amtrak hired several wrap artists to design and install the product.
There will be a big article about this in Trains magazine next April. With the money Amtrak saves they hope to bring back several stored SDP40Fs into operation on high speed trains.
Dave Nelson

Now,that is something I'd really like to see[:p]!
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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by miker2002

For those interested in the facts, it is actually a piece of modern art called "The Moving Drawing of Jheon Soocheon." RailCruise America was hired to charter the train.

This website has an article about the train and the project --
http://www.artdaily.com/section/lastweek/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=14781&int_modo=2

This website has more information in English and Korean --
http://soocheon.com/movingdrawing/movingline/en_schedule.htm


[xx(] And some people call THAT art?
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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 11:34 PM
Gee, I think it was more interesting before I knew exactly what it was supposed to be. The railroad version of Christo.
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Posted by Trainnut484 on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:14 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by miker2002

For those interested in the facts, it is actually a piece of modern art called "The Moving Drawing of Jheon Soocheon." RailCruise America was hired to charter the train.

This website has an article about the train and the project --
http://www.artdaily.com/section/lastweek/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=14781&int_modo=2

This website has more information in English and Korean --
http://soocheon.com/movingdrawing/movingline/en_schedule.htm


Thanks miker2002 for the links. I'll check them out more thorough later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:14 PM
You're welcome on the info. I stumbled across this movement while looking up something else at the RailCruise America site. I went to catch it on the former-GM&O at Joliet. The white covers had already accumulated a fair amount of road dirt. Judging from the way they look at KC, they'll be black by the time it gets to LA.

As for whether or not it's "art"...well, that's another debate.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:10 PM
It's Amtrak's new paint scheme, otherwise they're trying to smuggle the cars out of the country...

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