A conversation with Carolyn Mellon,Owners of Banks Steel Mills and oh yeah a Railroad (B&M Guilford)

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868

I dont want to be exploited so that lazy capiltists can live off me.
There is no law saying that I have to work.
On one hand you are saying that we have have to work and tow the line for society but on the other hand its okay if someone who did not work for there money by just being born to the right family does not have to work. How hypocritical is that![B)][8)]

Well if you work hard enough and smart enough, then you too can sit around and have others do your bidding.......and having someone inherit thier wealth is not bad in it's self. It's when they cannot handle the blessing that they've been given.

Your sounding alot like the sad communist propaganda...take from the rich, working class, all equal...blah, blah, blah........see how well that turned out.

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

So, Andrew,
What your saying is we have until you graduate to ship Peterson to Canada?

Ed[:D]

I guess so because by then, I may get taser gun trigger happy..........just kidding; or am I?

It's going to be fun pulling folk to the side and ripping their car apart looking for stuff. Yeh!!! legalized vandalism![:D]

[Murphy Siding]

Kind of reminds me of an old Linda Ronstad song "Poor, poor, pitiful me !"


I seem to recall something about Conrail and Canadian National being sold to the public. Now , where was it I heard that?..........

[edblysard]

Well,
I guess he could learn to live off of tortillas and Corona…
Come to think it, I lived off of tortillas and Corona in high school...[:D]

[Anonymous]

Ed

We don't him, send him to the other boarder.

[edblysard]

So, Andrew,
What your saying is we have until you graduate to ship Peterson to Canada?

Ed[:D]

[Junctionfan]

I hate lazy capitalists too; those that are but at least they are contributors to society. What the heck do you do for society? Remember JFK saying "Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country". Even me who has been unemployed has been writing music for orchestras and providing other music for Canadian culture until I graduate college and then I will be a customs officer at the boarder protecting Canada from bad guys and illegal contraband too.

[Anonymous]

That would be Conrail or Canadian National

[jimrice4449]

If the language is the medium by which we transfer our ideas to others, we have here a perfect convergence of medium and message. Incomprehensible babling to transmit idiocy.
I like the idea of socialized RRs though. Imagine a national RR system with the cost effectiveness of the Pentagon, the efficiency of the Postal Service and desire to please the customer of the IRS. No thanks!

[edblysard]

Jeeze Pete,
Sucks that Burger King pays so bad, aint it....
Or do you just stop by to raid the dumpster?

Ed

[Anonymous]

I dont want to be exploited so that lazy capiltists can live off me.
There is no law saying that I have to work.
On one hand you are saying that we have have to work and tow the line for society but on the other hand its okay if someone who did not work for there money by just being born to the right family does not have to work. How hypocritical is that![B)][8)]

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868

not every public computer has spell check. There is not a spell check button on this forum.
The point is that the owners of the railroads dont give a *** about public policy and thus the railroads should be nationlised.

And what public policy would that be? That driters and vagrants have an inalienable right to free transportation? Sound like you want to take away from those that have so you don't have...to work...

Perhaps...stowing away on a containership to France night be the answer....

[Anonymous]

If all of the railroads were to come under government ownership, the general public would be better off?

[Anonymous]

not every public computer has spell check. There is not a spell check button on this forum.
The point is that the owners of the railroads dont give a *** about public policy and thus the railroads should be nationlised.

[Anonymous]

What is your point?
Your posts would make a lot more sense to the reader if grammer, spelling, and punctuation were in force. Rambling on in this post has no substance.
There seems to be a barrier here between you and others here on this forum.

[Junctionfan]

I wonder if they plan on making a new Hannibal movie? Trainfinder can ask Anthony Hopkins if he wants to make Hobo Stew.......

Whoa; where did that come from?

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868

The point here is that the people who OWN the railroads Eh The Investors and Trust funders and Pension Plans have little to do with the actual management and running the railroad eh the CEOs,Line Forman,Yardmasters,Conducters. The Railroad is not like the family owned Italian Restarente down the street from me where the son takes the the orders and the father does the accounting and mom makes the pizza dough...
We have investors and shareholders who live off the work of others who have made there money many times over and if they dont like what is going on( and know that it is going downhill with the company they just sell there stock to another sucker instead of going down and making it work. heck most shareholders dont even fill out there proxy statements or attend shareholder meetings.
At the marina where is work at the trash can often has proxy statements from the yaght owners that pull up.

And that is what makes America great......If I can generate enough wealth that I can hire someone to run it for me and that my children never have to work......and yet not be a burden on the taxpayer.....I win. Perhaps Detetive_ Peterfinder22, if you channelled you abundant energy to working and creating your own wealth..your perspective would change. I may be no Mellon or Vanderbuilt, but I don't intend on sponging from society for my existence.

[Anonymous]

The point here is that the people who OWN the railroads Eh The Investors and Trust funders and Pension Plans have little to do with the actual management and running the railroad eh the CEOs,Line Forman,Yardmasters,Conducters. The Railroad is not like the family owned Italian Restarente down the street from me where the son takes the the orders and the father does the accounting and mom makes the pizza dough...
We have investors and shareholders who live off the work of others who have made there money many times over and if they dont like what is going on( and know that it is going downhill with the company they just sell there stock to another sucker instead of going down and making it work. heck most shareholders dont even fill out there proxy statements or attend shareholder meetings.
At the marina where is work at the trash can often has proxy statements from the yaght owners that pull up.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if Carolyn Mellon was related in any way to the Mellon who ran the old New Haven? (Some would say right into the ground... but since the NYNH&HRR spent a lot of time crashing and burning, that may be a foul canard.)

Sniping at the Vanderbilts has been a national pastime for over a century. In fact, Cornelius Vanderbilt was soundly blasted from many American pulpits for imposing "Vanderbilt time" (present time zones) on an unhappy and unwilling American populace. (It didn't make a difference to anyone outside railroading that the time zone practice standardized train schedules... and made for safer operation.) I chuckle when people squawk over The Commodore's comment that "The Public be d-----d!"... because in context, he was talking about running passenger trains over HIS railroad at rates the public would accept... at the cost of running much more profitable freight trains. Does that sound familiar to anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Hobos. Saw an interesting A&E special narrated by Bill Kurtis on hobos and how rail police deal with them. My general impression is that if they aren't criminals, they are idiots. Who wants to play on the moving freight cars? Even professional railroaders shake their heads at the foolishness these folks exhibit.

As far as the rather strange final paragraphs of the initial message read, I can only reply by repeating the words of President James Earl Carter, noted supported of Habitat for Humanity... "Life...is unfair."

Erik

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

To borrow a phrase from my college days, "What a horrendous babble!". It appears that our troll is talking a lot but he's not saying anything.

[dharmon]

mmmmm...I don't know...One family is living off of money that the family acquired and the other is living off of my family?

As for being to tough on hobos......you mean that Guilford is arresting and prosecuting tresspassers, vagrants and thieves? Good God No!

[Anonymous]

met a woman in Swickley PA which is the home of the Olivers and the Mellons. I met a well to do women who happened to be part of the Mellon Clan which owns Banks,Steel Mills and a Railroad. Guilford Railroad "Boston and Maine". I used this opurtunity to tell her that Guilford has been too rough on the hobos. "We know about the hobos and this town has a lot of Railroad Workers". We quietly fund Shelters in this area and in other parts of the country thru our foundations.
But frankly we have little to do with the day to day operations of the railroad. So who runs the railroad? "We have attorneys and acountants for that that handle the legal operations who then appoint the managers of the buisness." I will try and pass your concern on but we try not to get involved with day to to day operations. So what do you do then?
"We have our own lives and we get up every morning to earn our keep."
This is not the first time I have heard this. The White Anglo-Saxon Prosetent Work Ethic. The Childern of Rockefeller were only given one toy to play with at a time despite having closets full of them. Children of the wealty being seperated from the home lives to live in drab bording schools. Now it seems that the Old money that makes money the old fasioned way (Inherits It) wants nothing to do with Daddys Buisness other then get a trust check other month. Timothy Mellon was given the Boston and Maine Railroad by his Parents in 1979? so that he would develop a
work ethic. The railroad went on strike and was not fun to play with any more. The railroad is now be used as asset alocation tool to hold real esate. Mary Lou Whitney of Saratoga NY has intrests in the Delaware and Hudson and New York Central. (Now CP and CSX). She attends fundraisers and is a sociity elite in the horse racing circet. But has nothing to do with the railroads ecept that the Saratoga yard for the D&H is in her backyard. Gloria Vanderbuilt has a line of Clothing (Cornialus Vanderbuilt founded the New York Central) and lives in a Penthouse in New York City.
CSX has a major shareholder by the Pennslvania Teachers Pension plan and Temple University. They Appoint a Proffeser to sit on there board of directors. Union Pacific has the governer of Montana on its board.
My point here is that the Class 1 railroads are largely controled by attorneys who set up trust funds on behalf of its benificuarys. As long as the real owners get a dividend check from there trust fund every month they have little to complain about. The Real *%*holes are the attorneys and accountants for the trust funds who they appoint whoes job is to maximises profit at any cost so that they can keep there jobs. As far as it seems railroads like CSX and BNSF can preety much run themsevels. However Railroads like NS are over managed down to having a superviser follow railroad workers in white trucks. So can someone here tell me the diffrence between the white heirs of the robbers barrons who sit back and collect dividend and trust fund checks and sip fine wines and the african american family on welfare who collects welfare checks on the dividends of a country that was founded on slavery and wiping out most of its natives and sipping Wild Irish Rose or Colt 45 Malt Liquire. Which one "Earned It"?