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SP, SSW, & DRGW Locomotive Sightings
Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:12 AM
Post your sightings of Southern Pacific, Cotton Belt, and Rio Grande locomotives here. SP, SSW, and DRGW fans be sure to bookmark this.

On 07/25/2005 I saw SP 8594 and SP 8681.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:34 AM
I saw you had no replies for this so I decided to reply. Nope I live up in the North East. None of those railroads around here. But if you see any CP Rail loco's, tell me, that's my hometown RR.

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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:16 AM
See my web site for DRGW under UTah

SPRR at Gibbon NE live in person. On the Rochelle webcam nearly every day. At Ogden UT in May 2005 also on my web site. Probably next month again when I visit Nevada, California & Utah [:o)][:p][:D]

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Posted by alstom on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:26 AM
Considering these 3 railroad companies went out of service, they'll probably be spotted with UP or a leased company or something like that. Also, considering I live in Ohio, I don't see SP to often. DRGW is spotted alot with Wheeling & Lake Erie here in Ohio. SSW (Cotton Belt) locos are no more as they are spotted in HLCX's fleet. Sorry.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:37 AM
Saw two unpatched DRGW's about two weeks ago putting through Denver here, #3100 & #3129.
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Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:20 AM
I didn't catch the numbers but on saturday in W. Palm Springs I saw 3 SP SD40M-2s (SD45 bodies) heading for W. Colton. Only the numbers on the cab were patched. I also saw another SD40M-2 in a westbound stack train with 4 UP units.[8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:53 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

Post your sightings of Southern Pacific, Cotton Belt, and Rio Grande locomotives here. SP, SSW, and DRGW fans be sure to bookmark this.

On 07/25/2005 I saw SP 8594 and SP 8681.


EricSP,

I've been keeping an eye out, just as soon as I see one I'll post it on this thread.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:13 PM
spbed was right. I see espee loco's every time I'm at Rochelle and a D&RGW about every other time. Will try to photograph or take numbers.

Please forgive me my ignorance of vintage diesel (who am I kidding -- of MOST diesels, still [;]), but the espees I've seen there have a distinct "anvil" quality in the perpendicular arrangement of their (one per side) exhaust fans. I don't think it's a Jeep 38, but what would it be? It's definitely older, smaller and differently configured than Uncle Pete's latest showboats.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

...but the espees I've seen there have a distinct "anvil" quality in the perpendicular arrangement of their (one per side) exhaust fans. I don't think it's a Jeep 38, but what would it be? It's definitely older, smaller and differently configured than Uncle Pete's latest showboats.


This is probably a stupid guess, but I'd say a GP40X? Maybe?[X-)]
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Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:49 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx

QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

...but the espees I've seen there have a distinct "anvil" quality in the perpendicular arrangement of their (one per side) exhaust fans. I don't think it's a Jeep 38, but what would it be? It's definitely older, smaller and differently configured than Uncle Pete's latest showboats.


This is probably a stupid guess, but I'd say a GP40X? Maybe?[X-)]

Unless UP brought back a SP GP40X or two, there are no more SP GP40X.

The only four axle SP locomotive around are GP38-2 (although they may all be patched by now), GP40-2, and GP60.

When you say "have a distinct "anvil" quality in the perpendicular arrangement of their (one per side) exhaust fan" are you refering to the dynamic brake housing? If so, maybe it was a GP60. Remember, just because a SP unit looks old does not mean it is old.

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Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:14 PM
I saw SP 8594 (again) and SP 8632 today.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:28 PM
Eric, the anvil was my way of describing the perpendicular, 90-degree quality that the exhaust fans make sticking out from the narrower engine body. While we're on the subject, are you in good with the Man Upstairs? Because shortly after I put my first post here, I reached for a cigar and from beneath the box fluttered a photo of a (July 4, Rochelle) espee loco that demostrates the principle very well. This is especially true because the (then) front end, along with said metaphorical anvil, are in espee red. This is the only loco hauling what appears to be an empty unit train, which would be pretty weird because it's EMPTY and heading EAST toward Northeastern Illinois and Chicago!
Another (slight) weirdity is that the loco is being operated cab-backward, so to speak, so I get a great view of "catfish whisker" guardrails on the front -- they and the ones on the side are of a light metal, unlike the struts underneath the ones on the side, which look black. The drawback is that serial no. is not to be seen.

If you'd like to e-mail me at smalling_60626@yahoo.com, I'll be happy to "snail mail" you the photo in question. Sorry, but I haven't gone digital yet.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:31 PM
SP 100 Class C44AC's are a daily sight on the Moffat Tunnel route hauling coal out of Routt County and Paonia/Hotchkiss
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Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:48 PM
I do not recall hearing of a locomotive with exhaust fans. Your description sounds like the dynamic brake housing of a GP60. The exhaust "stack" is by the dynamic brake cooling fan. Here is a photograph of SP 9717 and a photograph of the top of SP 9601 with the older design of dynamic brake housing.


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Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

SP 100 Class C44AC's are a daily sight on the Moffat Tunnel route hauling coal out of Routt County and Paonia/Hotchkiss

I hear that they are common on coal trains. If UP would swap some of the UP painted AC power for its grain trains for those SP AC4400CWs I could see more. Occasionally one of those SP units will come through here on a grain train.

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Posted by chad thomas on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

Eric, the anvil was my way of describing the perpendicular, 90-degree quality that the exhaust fans make sticking out from the narrower engine body. While we're on the subject, are you in good with the Man Upstairs? Because shortly after I put my first post here, I reached for a cigar and from beneath the box fluttered a photo of a (July 4, Rochelle) espee loco that demostrates the principle very well. This is especially true because the (then) front end, along with said metaphorical anvil, are in espee red. This is the only loco hauling what appears to be an empty unit train, which would be pretty weird because it's EMPTY and heading EAST toward Northeastern Illinois and Chicago!
Another (slight) weirdity is that the loco is being operated cab-backward, so to speak, so I get a great view of "catfish whisker" guardrails on the front -- they and the ones on the side are of a light metal, unlike the struts underneath the ones on the side, which look black. The drawback is that serial no. is not to be seen.

If you'd like to e-mail me at smalling_60626@yahoo.com, I'll be happy to "snail mail" you the photo in question. Sorry, but I haven't gone digital yet.

Allen Smalling





It sounds to me like your refering to the flared radiators on an SD45 body. This was a feature on SD45 models. A true SD45 is a rarity these days but Morison Knudson rebuilt a bunch of them into SD40M-2s for SP. The SD45s originaly had 20 cylinder engines and to get the needed extra cooling capacity they "flaired" the radiators. Is this what you are talking about?
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Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:40 PM
I saw SP 8594, SP 8621, and SP 8632 today. The SP 8621 was on the QFRNPP, so anyone in the Roseville area should keep an eye out for it. It appears that UP still changes the locomotives on the QFRNPP at Roseville, so I doubt it will go any further than Roseville.

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Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:46 PM
I have seen a lot of SP units up at New Brighton Minnesota on coal trains. All of the SP units ive seen have been un patched.

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Posted by UPTRAIN on Wednesday, July 27, 2005 9:27 PM
http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=39680 I hear that's still in Springfield.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=27690

Still assigned to the local, saw it go by today.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=28186
TEBU at NRC in Mount Vernon, IL.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=5967
A few weeks ago.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=8405
Back in April, hear it's still around.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=33296
Saw it in St. Louis a few weeks back.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=27388
Heard it's stil around.

http://uptrain.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=15430
Saw it in May. Gone from that local now, not sure where it is...UP 189 is in Camden, AR for 17 weeks.

All I got, if I see another one, I'll post.

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Posted by ericsp on Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:24 PM
I saw SP 8632 again today.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:59 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp

I saw SP 8632 again today.


Ericsp,

I keep looking out the window hoping to see some Espee power go by the house. But still haven't caught a one, patched or unpatched. I was thinking maybe would see one slip by on the Fresno-North Platt manifests, but nothing.

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Posted by spbed on Monday, August 1, 2005 6:34 AM
Look up the new webcam posted by Chad they have a SPRR switcher working the yard. [:o)][:p][:)]

Originally posted by ericsp
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Posted by ericsp on Thursday, August 4, 2005 1:03 AM
I saw SP 8621 and SP 8632 on 08/03/2005.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 5:55 PM
Got a phone call from a friend of mine today reporting that Union Pacific's Lovelock Local, operating out of Sparks, NV on UP's "Overland Route," Mon, Wed and Fri to Lovelock, NV with overnight at Fallon, NV and return to Sparks Tue, Thu, and Sat has unpatched SSW 7647 as one of its two locomotives.

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Posted by chad thomas on Thursday, August 4, 2005 5:59 PM
Then I'll expect you to be out there with your camera....Right....hu...hu...[swg]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 6:28 PM
i saw a up grain train in wichita kansas last week with a dash 9 sp
then today i saw an extremly faded ssw gp40
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Posted by ericsp on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:04 PM
I saw SP 8632 today. I also saw GECX 7336, which is ex- SP 7336 and except for GECX between the number and the cab window looks like it could still be a SP locomotive. By the way Jim, I think that train that is was on was the 2QFRNP-04, and it is the lead unit. It is followed by a CN SD50F and a UP SD70M. Its paint job is still in good condition.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:04 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Then I'll expect you to be out there with your camera....Right....hu...hu...[swg]


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Posted by ericsp on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:05 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 06archerd

i saw a up grain train in wichita kansas last week with a dash 9 sp
then today i saw an extremly faded ssw gp40

If it was not patched, it was probably an AC4400CW. It seems like all of SP's 9-44CWs have been patched or repainted.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 4, 2005 7:16 PM
Seen today going past the house at Lawton, NV (MP236) on an eastbound empty unit coal train was patched AC4400CW UP 6329. Empty coal trains haven't been regular on the Donner line since UP started running things. The regular coal movements were moved to the Las Vegas line, me thinks.

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