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Originally posted by icmr Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply oskar Member sinceAugust 2003 1,092 posts Posted by oskar on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:19 PM both resons for NS: LHF,still has unpatched CR SD70's,keep SR 4610 in SR colors,put NS 3329 in Marask colors,SD9's,likes putting old engines back onto active roster,Triple crown. CSX:has 2 SBD's on roster and C&O,buys some of EMD's EX demos,Tropicana. SPBED- [#offtopic] we are talking about NS and CSX here not BNSF and UP or western trains only eastern kevin Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:57 PM Honestly, I don't like either of them (two words: Conrail Fan). Reply Edit Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:57 PM I like them both really so it's hard to choose. Andrew Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:31 PM Well, I liked CSX before the Conrail split and after the split, I just liked them even more. In a nearby city to my town, NS has killed many on their crossings, including my great aunt. And besides, CSX is just darn good[(-D]. Reply Edit alstom Member sinceJune 2005 From: Firestone Park, OH 1,003 posts Posted by alstom on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:34 PM I like CSX better than NS, because CSX has a variety of power where NS is lamo Dash 9s[zzz] . Also there paint is better on CSX than on NS. Richard Click here to go to my rail videos! Click here to go to my rail photos! ......... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:43 PM CSX has the better colour scheme. [;)] NS has some one-of-a-kind locomotives too. They've got GP59s, B32-8s, and those C44-9s (I think) with conventional cabs. Reply Edit TrainFreak409 Member sinceDecember 2003 From: Dallas, GA 2,643 posts Posted by TrainFreak409 on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 6:32 PM Well, I would have to say that I prefer CSX because it is my hometown railroad. I do like NS's black horse scheme over any of CSX's schemes. But, the B & O, C & O, Western Maryland, Pere Marquette, Chessie, Seaboard, and part of the Pennsy live on through CSX. Scott - Dispatcher, Norfolk Southern Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:55 PM On My Daddy's side it has to be CSX ,but on my Mama's side its NS. These family discussions do tend to be a bit drawn out (off and on for the last 10 to 15 years). The touble of all this is that with my Grand Parents it was either SAL, AB&C, Southern or The Central (of Georgia) with a bit of admiration of the Tullula Falls. As for me I like them both but for different reasons. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:46 PM NS. It's in much better shape financially and they earned it. CSX has a less efficient route structure. NS got the Pennsy and CSX got the NYCentral, but look how empty CSX's service to the industrialized Northeast would be without that one line--and NS already has the Nickel Plate Road on the other side of the Hudson. I feel a little sorry for CSX because NS [fornicated] them on Conrail. On the other hand, has anyone read CSX's 2004 annual report? It's all about corporate philosophy and ethics and multi this and infra that and only a few hints that their transportation "logistics" (or is it "coordinates"?) have to do with the operation of large, special-duty vehicles called "trains" on a dedicated ROW called "rails." If CSX wanted to get back into my good graces, they should bring back silhouette Chessie. Then figure out whether they want to fix their skankiest branch lines or abandon them. Reply Edit dwil89 Member sinceJanuary 2004 From: NY 913 posts Posted by dwil89 on Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:41 PM NS seems to be faring much better than CSX post merger after faring worse than CSX in the months immediately following the merger in 1999.......They seem to be having fewer 'meltdowns' than CSX nowadays......CSX seems to run more of a variety of power on its trains, when comparing Sand Patch to Altoona. 2nd generation EMD, etc......I am partial to any railroad that runs over the former Pennsy through Altoona.....NS also gets my vote for keeping the Altoona SD40-2 helper pool intact......nothing sounds like a heavy coal drag with anywhere from 1 to 2 pair of 40-2's shoving up that grade at Run-8! Dave Williams @ nsaltoonajohnstown@yahoogroups.com David J. Williams http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nsaltoonajohnstown Reply alstom Member sinceJune 2005 From: Firestone Park, OH 1,003 posts Posted by alstom on Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:44 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409 Well, I would have to say that I prefer CSX because it is my hometown railroad. I do like NS's black horse scheme over any of CSX's schemes. But, the B & O, C & O, Western Maryland, Pere Marquette, Chessie, Seaboard, and part of the Pennsy live on through CSX. WHAT!!!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE DARK FUTURE??????? Richard Click here to go to my rail videos! Click here to go to my rail photos! ......... Reply trainfan1221 Member sinceJuly 2003 From: Elmwood Park, NJ 2,385 posts Posted by trainfan1221 on Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:43 PM Here in northern New Jersey, can't say either one is a winner. NS destroyed what was the Southern Tier line, and there isn't much to see. CSX would be the favorite, as they run their trains nearby on the River division main line. But they can't seem to even do that right and you are lucky if you see a train there. This is a railroad that uses the Susquehenna line because they can't get the trains down their own line, it seems. Why didn't Conrail have these problems? Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 29, 2005 9:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom WHAT!!!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE DARK FUTURE??????? It's too dark, plus it ruins what has been claimed to be a paint scheme reflecting Seaboard System and Chessie System. Dark blue and gold? Come on CSX, do something like UP, and paint an SD70MAC up in Seaboard colors, and a B40-8 in Chessie colors, or something like that. Reply Edit BNSF4ever Member sinceDecember 2004 380 posts Posted by BNSF4ever on Friday, July 29, 2005 5:57 PM Between the two, I'd probably pick NS because of their livery and the fact they seem more willing to celebrate being a railroad with history. CSX has more railroads I like (C&O foremost) but them, along with BNSF, CN, etc seem to want to run away from their proud histories. Reply oskar Member sinceAugust 2003 1,092 posts Posted by oskar on Friday, July 29, 2005 10:51 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom WHAT!!!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE DARK FUTURE??????? It's too dark, plus it ruins what has been claimed to be a paint scheme reflecting Seaboard System and Chessie System. Dark blue and gold? Come on CSX, do something like UP, and paint an SD70MAC up in Seaboard colors, and a B40-8 in Chessie colors, or something like that. A Seaboard System SD70MAC in SBD colors! a B40-8 in chessie colors! wow that would be wierd to see that.But I would put a SD60 or what ever Seaboard and Chessie had at the merger would be A OK [^] kevin Reply Nora Member sinceJuly 2003 From: US 386 posts Posted by Nora on Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:48 AM I prefer NS since they keep putting money in my bank account every two weeks... [:D] Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:01 AM ....Conrail operated the ex. NYC double track east / west route through here {Muncie}, and in later years pesented an image of seemingly newer and consistent engine models and all pained in the famous blue with the "wheels and track" icon logo....presenting an image of a company on the move and having it together.....and getting the job done......Now that route is operated by CSX and their engine make up looks like a hodge podge of engines some in pretty good shape and many looking haggard and torn...Just not presenting an image of being in charge and getting the job done...Maybe they are but it's the image that looks so haggard....! Quentin Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, July 30, 2005 8:06 AM Dwil89....I too have a soft spot for the ex Pennsy route through Altoona, Johnstown, etc....and expect to be in that area this coming week...Just might venture to the Curve to have yet another look...Some recent photos show brush and trees have been trimmed back rather well in some areas so maybe this time, if we do get over there we will get a better look. Quentin Reply 1234 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by TrainFreak409 Well, I would have to say that I prefer CSX because it is my hometown railroad. I do like NS's black horse scheme over any of CSX's schemes. But, the B & O, C & O, Western Maryland, Pere Marquette, Chessie, Seaboard, and part of the Pennsy live on through CSX.
QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom WHAT!!!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE DARK FUTURE???????
QUOTE: Originally posted by uspscsx QUOTE: Originally posted by alstom WHAT!!!!! HOW CAN YOU NOT LOVE THE DARK FUTURE??????? It's too dark, plus it ruins what has been claimed to be a paint scheme reflecting Seaboard System and Chessie System. Dark blue and gold? Come on CSX, do something like UP, and paint an SD70MAC up in Seaboard colors, and a B40-8 in Chessie colors, or something like that.
Quentin
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