Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."
The Missabe Road: Safety First
QUOTE: Originally posted by Peterson6868 Okay so what about the fact that CSX had the WM,B&O and C&O still painted on there locos years after the takeover
QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 I agree. Knowing UP, they probably will repaint some units just to make modelers pay more. And as for UP hanging on to them, they are UP:Un Protected
"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)
Originally posted by 06archerd Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 10:43 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes somebody told me that in Grand Island NE in mid May & I posted it. The way it was told me was the judge said use it or lose it. That maybe why those 3 CNW locos mentioned in the Trains magazine are roaming the UPRR tracks these days. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by 06archerd Either that or UP was to lazy to repaint them. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Chris30 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: near Chicago 937 posts Posted by Chris30 on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:59 PM I'm no lawyer... but the UP will appeal this decision and their lawyers will argue that the old fallen flag paint scheme is still under the new UP paint scheme. CC Reply wctransfer Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: New Brighton, Minnesota 1,493 posts Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:25 PM Speaking of this, i saw a brand new CNW boxcar , and NO GRAFFITI! That will only last a week but o well. Alec Check out my pics! [url="http://wctransfer.rrpicturearchives.net/"] http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?userid=8714 Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:59 PM If this does occur it wil most likely be 1 car painted. Im sure the entire fleet will not be painted in Rio Grande Gold and black Reply Edit ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:02 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CHPENNSYLVANIA If this does occur it wil most likely be 1 car painted. Im sure the entire fleet will not be painted in Rio Grande Gold and black I am sure you are correct about not repainting the entire fleet. However, I have seen two DRGW cars repainted like this, a Center-flow hopper and a gondola type coil car. The hopper was light gray and the coil car was black. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Thursday, July 14, 2005 6:55 AM Yes the person told me the judge said it has to be in operation & displayed. If you would look at my web site you will see a DRGW loco leading a UPRR train @ Pedersen UT. I also saw the CNW lifesaver loco @ Gibbons NE. Also I have seen at least 5 or so SPRR locos unpatched recently.[:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by ericsp [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:55 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds I have absolutely no idea why they want to hang on to the identities of MOP, Katy, Rio Grande, Northwestern, SP, etc. Because it gives their legal people something to do, and they can keep collecting their cushy salaries and perks. Finally a court has the nerve to stop this kind of nonsense for once. Dave -DPD Productions - Featuring the NEW TrainTenna LP Gain RR Scanner Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:14 PM Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! Reply Edit dknelson Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point) 11,439 posts Posted by dknelson on Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:52 PM The problem, Allan, is not that UP wants money to reproduce its logo but it wants money for models of railroads that disappeared decades ago such as the Chicago Great Western. Which was bought by the C&NW in the late 1960s. Which in turn was bought by the UP around 1995. Ditto the Minneapolis & St Louis and other long since fallen flags that were bought by railroads the UP then acquired. They are on solid legal ground as regards the shield logo and other current logos. The issue here is railroads which no longer exist but which some of us still model, or would like to model Dave Nelson Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:07 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt??? (no offense Allan) Second of all, the UP logo is not the issue. The issue is the logo's like the SP and C&NW and MOPAC. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt???Consider the sourse. Reply Edit zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:19 PM We use the reporting marks from the fallen flags because there just aren't enough numbers for the amount of cars. Not to mention it's cost prohibitive to renumber a railroads fleet. And to BNSF railfan, I'm a third generation railroader,and my father (worked for GM&O,IC,CN) told me before I hired on UP "that all railroads are the same,they just paint there engines a different color!" Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:36 PM Why does Union Pacific suck??[?] Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:39 PM Are you asking me? Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:42 PM Anybody. Not that I am taking sides, but what's the aggression towards the UP? Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:52 PM There is a wall between management and labor,and that goes for most RR's,not just UP. You have to scunitize every check. The crew callers are forced to break agreements jus to fill train crews. Some of the callers have jus bad attitudes and don't know the agreements nor do they care. Of course there are some railroaders that are the same way! I will say that since I got mobilized for the National Guard,UP really put their mouth where there money is. UP chairman *** Davidson is a truely patriotic person(ie flags on the sides of all units,his idea) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:39 PM I correct that.....The UP does not suck! It's just this whole logo thing is getting very old. Im very sorry for any trouble that I have caused. 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Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed Yes somebody told me that in Grand Island NE in mid May & I posted it. The way it was told me was the judge said use it or lose it. That maybe why those 3 CNW locos mentioned in the Trains magazine are roaming the UPRR tracks these days. [:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by 06archerd Either that or UP was to lazy to repaint them. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Chris30 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: near Chicago 937 posts Posted by Chris30 on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 6:59 PM I'm no lawyer... but the UP will appeal this decision and their lawyers will argue that the old fallen flag paint scheme is still under the new UP paint scheme. CC Reply wctransfer Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: New Brighton, Minnesota 1,493 posts Posted by wctransfer on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:25 PM Speaking of this, i saw a brand new CNW boxcar , and NO GRAFFITI! That will only last a week but o well. Alec Check out my pics! [url="http://wctransfer.rrpicturearchives.net/"] http://www.railpictures.net/showphotos.php?userid=8714 Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:59 PM If this does occur it wil most likely be 1 car painted. Im sure the entire fleet will not be painted in Rio Grande Gold and black Reply Edit ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 11:02 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by CHPENNSYLVANIA If this does occur it wil most likely be 1 car painted. Im sure the entire fleet will not be painted in Rio Grande Gold and black I am sure you are correct about not repainting the entire fleet. However, I have seen two DRGW cars repainted like this, a Center-flow hopper and a gondola type coil car. The hopper was light gray and the coil car was black. "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply spbed Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Austin TX 4,941 posts Posted by spbed on Thursday, July 14, 2005 6:55 AM Yes the person told me the judge said it has to be in operation & displayed. If you would look at my web site you will see a DRGW loco leading a UPRR train @ Pedersen UT. I also saw the CNW lifesaver loco @ Gibbons NE. Also I have seen at least 5 or so SPRR locos unpatched recently.[:o)][:p][:)] Originally posted by ericsp [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:55 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds I have absolutely no idea why they want to hang on to the identities of MOP, Katy, Rio Grande, Northwestern, SP, etc. Because it gives their legal people something to do, and they can keep collecting their cushy salaries and perks. Finally a court has the nerve to stop this kind of nonsense for once. Dave -DPD Productions - Featuring the NEW TrainTenna LP Gain RR Scanner Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:14 PM Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! Reply Edit dknelson Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point) 11,439 posts Posted by dknelson on Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:52 PM The problem, Allan, is not that UP wants money to reproduce its logo but it wants money for models of railroads that disappeared decades ago such as the Chicago Great Western. Which was bought by the C&NW in the late 1960s. Which in turn was bought by the UP around 1995. Ditto the Minneapolis & St Louis and other long since fallen flags that were bought by railroads the UP then acquired. They are on solid legal ground as regards the shield logo and other current logos. The issue here is railroads which no longer exist but which some of us still model, or would like to model Dave Nelson Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:07 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt??? (no offense Allan) Second of all, the UP logo is not the issue. The issue is the logo's like the SP and C&NW and MOPAC. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt???Consider the sourse. Reply Edit zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:19 PM We use the reporting marks from the fallen flags because there just aren't enough numbers for the amount of cars. Not to mention it's cost prohibitive to renumber a railroads fleet. And to BNSF railfan, I'm a third generation railroader,and my father (worked for GM&O,IC,CN) told me before I hired on UP "that all railroads are the same,they just paint there engines a different color!" Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:36 PM Why does Union Pacific suck??[?] Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:39 PM Are you asking me? Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:42 PM Anybody. Not that I am taking sides, but what's the aggression towards the UP? Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:52 PM There is a wall between management and labor,and that goes for most RR's,not just UP. You have to scunitize every check. The crew callers are forced to break agreements jus to fill train crews. Some of the callers have jus bad attitudes and don't know the agreements nor do they care. Of course there are some railroaders that are the same way! I will say that since I got mobilized for the National Guard,UP really put their mouth where there money is. UP chairman *** Davidson is a truely patriotic person(ie flags on the sides of all units,his idea) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:39 PM I correct that.....The UP does not suck! It's just this whole logo thing is getting very old. Im very sorry for any trouble that I have caused. Allan. Reply Edit 123 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Originally posted by 06archerd
QUOTE: Originally posted by CHPENNSYLVANIA If this does occur it wil most likely be 1 car painted. Im sure the entire fleet will not be painted in Rio Grande Gold and black
Originally posted by ericsp [ Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply DPD1 Member sinceAugust 2004 484 posts Posted by DPD1 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 1:55 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds I have absolutely no idea why they want to hang on to the identities of MOP, Katy, Rio Grande, Northwestern, SP, etc. Because it gives their legal people something to do, and they can keep collecting their cushy salaries and perks. Finally a court has the nerve to stop this kind of nonsense for once. Dave -DPD Productions - Featuring the NEW TrainTenna LP Gain RR Scanner Antenna- http://eje.railfan.net/dpdp/ Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 3:14 PM Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! Reply Edit dknelson Member sinceMarch 2002 From: Milwaukee WI (Fox Point) 11,439 posts Posted by dknelson on Thursday, July 14, 2005 4:52 PM The problem, Allan, is not that UP wants money to reproduce its logo but it wants money for models of railroads that disappeared decades ago such as the Chicago Great Western. Which was bought by the C&NW in the late 1960s. Which in turn was bought by the UP around 1995. Ditto the Minneapolis & St Louis and other long since fallen flags that were bought by railroads the UP then acquired. They are on solid legal ground as regards the shield logo and other current logos. The issue here is railroads which no longer exist but which some of us still model, or would like to model Dave Nelson Reply coborn35 Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Duluth,Minnesota,USA 4,015 posts Posted by coborn35 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:07 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt??? (no offense Allan) Second of all, the UP logo is not the issue. The issue is the logo's like the SP and C&NW and MOPAC. Mechanical Department "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..." The Missabe Road: Safety First Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:09 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt???Consider the sourse. Reply Edit zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:19 PM We use the reporting marks from the fallen flags because there just aren't enough numbers for the amount of cars. Not to mention it's cost prohibitive to renumber a railroads fleet. And to BNSF railfan, I'm a third generation railroader,and my father (worked for GM&O,IC,CN) told me before I hired on UP "that all railroads are the same,they just paint there engines a different color!" Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:36 PM Why does Union Pacific suck??[?] Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:39 PM Are you asking me? Reply csmith9474 Member sinceApril 2005 From: Colorado Springs, CO 3,590 posts Posted by csmith9474 on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:42 PM Anybody. Not that I am taking sides, but what's the aggression towards the UP? Smitty Reply zapp Member sinceAugust 2003 From: weatherford,Tx 367 posts Posted by zapp on Thursday, July 14, 2005 5:52 PM There is a wall between management and labor,and that goes for most RR's,not just UP. You have to scunitize every check. The crew callers are forced to break agreements jus to fill train crews. Some of the callers have jus bad attitudes and don't know the agreements nor do they care. Of course there are some railroaders that are the same way! I will say that since I got mobilized for the National Guard,UP really put their mouth where there money is. UP chairman *** Davidson is a truely patriotic person(ie flags on the sides of all units,his idea) Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 14, 2005 8:39 PM I correct that.....The UP does not suck! It's just this whole logo thing is getting very old. Im very sorry for any trouble that I have caused. Allan. Reply Edit 123 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
QUOTE: Originally posted by greyhounds I have absolutely no idea why they want to hang on to the identities of MOP, Katy, Rio Grande, Northwestern, SP, etc.
QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway!
QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35 QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Personaly I could careless weather the UP charges extra for their STUPID Retarded Logo. Besides! UP SUCKS anyway! First off, how come I get flamed for saying UP sucks and he doesnt???
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