QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 I recently saw that Brockville, Ontario is rescinding their whistle ban after a teenager was struck by a train on the second track (she apparently crossed behind the first train, unaware that the second was coming).
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QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper There reasonably priced windows that can provide the necessary sound isolation ....
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Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:12 AM Stand your ground. If they get the horns silenced the next thing they'll be after is to have trains stop running period. Reply daveklepper Member sinceJune 2002 20,096 posts Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:08 AM There reasonably priced windows that can provide the necessary sound isolation coupled with in-window air-conditioners if the household doesn't wi***o install expensive central air conditioning. It is a problem that the local householder can solve himself without endangering others' lives. That is an important part of the answer. If someone needs an acoustical consultant there is the National Association of Acoustical Consultants website to check out and they have members all over the USA. Canada and Great Britain have similar associations. People who buy a house near an existing airport have similar but worse problems and they also cope using this answer. Also schools built near airports. Reply canazar Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Phoenix, Arizona 1,989 posts Posted by canazar on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:24 AM [:D][yeah] [bow] [bow] Nice Harmon Best Regards, Big John Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway Reply dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:52 AM Here's a copy of a letter I wrote which was published in the local paper's Op-Ed section in response to a letter complaining that train horns were detrimental to the tourist industry in one of our seaside towns here.... <quote> Trains whistles or whining: Which is louder? I can only presume that Mr. XXXXXX (Letters, March 30) was part of a secret government-forced relocation program. That could be the only way that such an astute observer could have been moved next to the railroad tracks without noticing them. Since he was apparently moved there forcibly, through no action of his own, the Oceanside City Council should do what it needs to do to protect him from this menace. Locomotive engineers have only a horn to warn pedestrians and motorists of their approach. And stopping a 100-ton locomotive, with steel wheels riding on two steel rails, is simply a matter of physics; in other words, they don't stop on a dime. The horns are there to protect life, and there is just a little matter of federal regulations regarding the use of horns as trains approach crossings. I'd say better a tourist gets disturbed than run over ..... bad for business. I never cease to wonder about those who move near railroad tracks or airports and then complain about the noise. Seems that some folks spend more time researching their next meal than they do their next house. <unquote> Reply GP40-2 Member sinceJuly 2004 803 posts Posted by GP40-2 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:48 AM The railroad better watch out! The next thing you know, the crackpot will be suing the RR for 11.7 million (or something like that) for psycological pain and suffering caused by the horn blasts. And she will probably find an equally crackpot jury willing to believe her... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:33 AM I wonder if these same petitioners would be willing to go door to door with a bond measure to pay for grade separations. My guess is that they couldn't be bothered to do so. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 11:37 PM Her petition is wasted energy. I stand with arms akimbo and laugh at her stupidity. Take that petition away and use your energy for moving AWAY from the track so you wont have to hear the whistle lady. You hoggers blow em loud as you go crossings everywhere you see em. These folks need to hear your whistle and fear it because death is rolling down the track. Look, Listen and LIVE. Reply Edit Green Bay Paddlers Member sinceJuly 2002 From: Green Bay, WI 197 posts Posted by Green Bay Paddlers on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:58 PM Reminds me of the people that buy houses next to O'Hare Airport then complain about the airplanes over their houses! :) Reply brazos87 Member sinceJanuary 2005 45 posts Posted by brazos87 on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:49 PM For a good part of the 19th century, most of the 20th century, and all of the 21st, rails have been in place--if you don't want to hear a horn, don't buy a place near a railroad. I guess common sense has been outsourced as well. Her petition might as well be an admission of her own stupidity. A coworker of my wife's invited us over to show off his brand new house--you have to cross a mainline on the road to his house, and the new subdivision crosses the same main to get to the rear of the subdivision--and he complains to me about the noise--my reply--didn't you talk to your realtor? The devil is in the details, everyone. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:43 PM hmm....quality of life vs. life. tough choice! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:39 PM Hang in there. A small town in Virginia near where I grew up forbade ALL horns within its civic limits--until the N&W commissioned a study that proved (insofar as such proof is possible) that the no-horn, bell-only policy meant at least one extra driver death per decade. Ask your "neighbors" if there's anybody they'd be willng to sacrifice to do away with the tootling? [8)] Reply Edit Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:23 PM Maybe the railroad should instruct the engineers to whistle more just because..........not to toot my own horn but sometimes when stupid people like that thumb you, you need to respond with a finger...... Andrew Reply GP-9_Man11786 Member sinceJuly 2004 From: Spartanburg, SC 1,503 posts Posted by GP-9_Man11786 on Monday, June 27, 2005 10:12 PM I could not agree more! Recenlty CSX was forced to do the same thing in Kingston, NY, which has numerouse grade crossings. This measure will lead to many more accidents. Horns should only be silenced if the right of way is grade separated AND fully fenced off. Modeling the Pennsylvania Railroad in N Scale. www.prr-nscale.blogspot.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Train horns. I am VERY ANGRY! Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 27, 2005 9:48 PM Just tonight this woman walked up to my dads house telling him what and why she showed up to his home. I understand that she lives just up the street from his place real near the 23rd street grade crossing. she was asking neighbors to sign a petition to stop Trains from blowing their horns into town. I am for the safety of others who need these horns to warn drivers the a train is a coming. As far as I am concerned with this,I do not and will not sign any Petition. I will give that person a word or two. Of corse you all know what will happen when or if the RR's where to be forced to silence their horns across this country. I am very angry that some people will stoop to this level to try something this dumb. And for one thing,I do not and will not sign any Petition to ban any trains from stop blowing their horns,PERIOD. Id like to tell people like that,You don't like the sound of the horns,then get the hell out of town. Allan. 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Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
Best Regards, Big John
Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway
Modeling the Pennsylvania Railroad in N Scale.
www.prr-nscale.blogspot.com
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