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Originally posted by BNSF railfan. Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply tree68 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Northern New York 25,024 posts Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:02 AM I recently saw that Brockville, Ontario is rescinding their whistle ban after a teenager was struck by a train on the second track (she apparently crossed behind the first train, unaware that the second was coming). Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it... Reply joegreen Member sinceApril 2004 From: Illinois 484 posts Posted by joegreen on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:30 AM Well when people start dieing then the people will do something to bring the horn back. I heard somewhere that they made a quiet zone a few years back and it was quiet then but the railroad engineers are starting to honk at the crossings. www.12ozprophet.com Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:31 AM To all of you out there,I couldn't agree more. If you don't like the noise of the Trains when they blow thier horns at the crossings,Then why and the hell did you move there in the first place. Like duu. Man I tell you what,People are so stupid anymore. I would rather hear the Train horns than see someone die. Like common since would tell you this. These so-called "Quiet zones" are a huge mistake. I know this may sound cold but,If the complainers want to complain,fine. Just don't expect me to call for help when I see (someone) being draged down the Tracks to their death since their the ones who wanted this stupid new law about quieting of the train horns. But,I WILL feel sorry for the Trains crew who this just happen too. Too all the Train crews out there. Keep on blowing your horns. Remember! SAFTY FIRST! IS ALWAYS A MUST! Allan. Reply Edit eolafan Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Aurora, IL 4,515 posts Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:57 AM One of these people who want the railroads to stop sounding horns at grade crossings will be the first to file a law suit when one of their relatives are hit by a train due to their not being able to hear the train coming...GUARANTEED. Eolafan (a.k.a. Jim) Reply ChuckCobleigh Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Sunny (mostly) San Diego 1,920 posts Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:20 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper There reasonably priced windows that can provide the necessary sound isolation .... Just recently saw this in action as some friends who live near the usual takeoff pattern at our airport replaced the windows in their condo with double-pane, gas-filled models. They weren't even thinking about the noise reduction aspects but were pleasantly surprised by the significant reduction in exterior noise. That comes in very handy in the evenings. Reply Modelcar Member sinceFebruary 2002 From: Muncie, Indiana...Orig. from Pennsylvania 13,456 posts Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:30 AM It is a movement that's gaining strength and seems to be widespread...That is, non blowing of whistles as trains enter and are running through communities. It is strange of people to petition for such an act....Here in Muncie, it has been an ongoing discussion in city government for some time now and I don't know just where it stands but it is serious. For a while I thought it would become law of no whistle blowing and may yet...It is totally stupid but that seems not to be something that stops the non whistle blower crowd. We have NS and CSX main lines running 4 or 5 directions here in our city and can present much exposure to trains at crossings. Most are signal protected but that doesn't eliminate all the danger. Quentin Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:35 AM If they don't like to hear train horns. Why would move near a Railroad Reply Edit Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:47 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 I recently saw that Brockville, Ontario is rescinding their whistle ban after a teenager was struck by a train on the second track (she apparently crossed behind the first train, unaware that the second was coming). So they should. The Kingston Subdivision is the busiest and fastest line in Ontario. CN trains go 60mph and VIAs go up to 100mph. Andrew Reply Leon Silverman Member sinceJuly 2004 785 posts Posted by Leon Silverman on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:54 AM The only safeway to eliminate train horns is to replace the crossings with over- or under passes. Creating thes bypasses will snarl a lot of traffic during their construction plus add a couple of thousands of dollars to the local tax burden in order to pay off the construction bonds. Ask these petitioners if they are willing to support the tax increase. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:12 AM I live one block from the NS main thet runs through town. For a while I thought he trains had stopped running. Turns out I just got used to the trains' whistling and tunned it out. Including "The Mad Whistler" that blows a complete __0_ for each and every crossing during the middle of the night. There is a problem, as I heard once, that people most likely to be struck by a train live in proximity to crossings and are used to whistles. I'm with every one else on this matter. They invented whistles as a warning. They invented choices in purchasing real estate so no one has to live where they don't want to. As for tourists being disturbed, I think some of them may feel that the sound of an approaching train is romantic. I know of no toourist area where the frequency of train whistles is at a constant, annoying rate. Mitch Reply Edit jeaton Member sinceSeptember 2002 From: Rockton, IL 4,821 posts Posted by jeaton on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:25 AM Isn't the FRA order on train horns about to go into effect? I think it overrides all local noise laws unless a community has upgraded crossings greater safety by installing such features as 4 quadrant gates. That won't impact our town, as the use of train horns has never been blocked. However, two trains a day (maybe) is hardly a major noise problem. Some of the communities along the busier Chicago Metra routes are not going to be very happy when the new rules go into effect. Most community leaders know about the coming rule changes and I am sure they will face major heat from the maybe 90% of their constituents that don't have a clue as to what is coming. The screaming may be louder than the horns. Jay "We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics Reply chad thomas Member sinceJanuary 2005 From: Ely, Nv. 6,312 posts Posted by chad thomas on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:41 AM I have no sympathy at all for these people. 99% of the time the tracks were there WAY before they were. If you don't like horns then you should not have moved in to that location. The whole quiet zone thing is a big mistake and is going to cause a lot of people to get killed. Our society has turned into a bunch of selfish people that care only about themselves. They are willing to sacrifice someone elses life so they don't have to deal with hearing the noise. I say screw the quiet zone thing. If you want quiet then move, soundproof your house or fork over the money for grade seperation. It's as simple as that. Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 10:46 AM Think about this.....Does this lady get excited when emergency vechicles go by with sirens on? Or how about a driver who blows their horn to get the attention of another person in order to avoid an accident. Sirens and horns are used for safety - the same reason trains blow their horn. Maybe this lady's personal life comes before safety of all other lives. Reply tree68 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Northern New York 25,024 posts Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:15 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by bbrant Think about this.....Does this lady get excited when emergency vechicles go by with sirens on? Or how about a driver who blows their horn to get the attention of another person in order to avoid an accident. Sirens and horns are used for safety - the same reason trains blow their horn. Maybe this lady's personal life comes before safety of all other lives. Seen on a sticker: "Aw, did my lights and siren wake you up? Well, guess what, Homer, if we gotta be up, you gotta be up." Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it... Reply AntonioFP45 Member sinceDecember 2003 From: Good ol' USA 9,642 posts Posted by AntonioFP45 on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:04 PM We have a crazy situation here in the Tampa area. Subdivisions are built within 50 yards of a high speed CSX line, then the new residents whine about noise! Yet, those mainlines were there since the early 1900s! To these IDIOTS I would gladly tell them to either sell their house, or ask that a special tax be assesed so that an overpass (which is likely $1million by the time all the red tape and construction is done) can be built so that the trains can zip by quietly. "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!" Reply 1234 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. 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Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
QUOTE: Originally posted by daveklepper There reasonably priced windows that can provide the necessary sound isolation ....
Quentin
QUOTE: Originally posted by tree68 I recently saw that Brockville, Ontario is rescinding their whistle ban after a teenager was struck by a train on the second track (she apparently crossed behind the first train, unaware that the second was coming).
"We have met the enemy and he is us." Pogo Possum "We have met the anemone... and he is Russ." Bucky Katt "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it's about the future." Niels Bohr, Nobel laureate in physics
QUOTE: Originally posted by bbrant Think about this.....Does this lady get excited when emergency vechicles go by with sirens on? Or how about a driver who blows their horn to get the attention of another person in order to avoid an accident. Sirens and horns are used for safety - the same reason trains blow their horn. Maybe this lady's personal life comes before safety of all other lives.
"I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!"
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