Amtrak in the Toyota Tundra Paint Scheme!

[Anonymous]

Amtrak in the Toyota Tundra Paint Scheme! Toyota had a 60 day deal with Amtrak to paint two of their engines in the Toyota Tundra Paint Scheme, with a red pick-up on the side. The engines painted in this scheme were Numbers 84 and 115. Here is a picture of 84. [:)]

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751

Thanks for looking! [:)]

[Anonymous]

Good photo but what a morphodite looking locomotive

[Anonymous]

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751

Thanks, dblstack. [:)]

[Anonymous]

And everyone stands around wondering why kids of today are confused. If a railfan painted his Tundra with a locomotive on its side everyone would laugh.
Yes. Let's project, what I believe is the competetion on our product.
It's like having an orange juice container with a Coke can on the label.
I'm happy that Amtrak derives a little bit of dough from selling ad space on the side of its power, but the appearance of such things mares the image of the carrier in general.

Mitch

[Junctionfan]

VIA uses clients that aren't competition-Telus, Home Hardware, CBC News, Spiderman 2 movie.

What ever generates revenue though.....

[Anonymous]

It's sad how the airlines are getting all the money. Last year, Amtrak came close to setting its rider-ship record by carrying over 25 million passengers. Amtrak has the potential to become a viable piece of America's Transportation Infrastructure. Bush is continually asking Congress for billions of dollars for Iraq. Many of the dollars for Iraq are being used to rebuild and develop their Infrastructure "Roads and Rails." Shouldn't we be investing American Tax dollars in America's Infrastructure first? Bush has once again shown how willing he is to turn his back on the average Americans. For many people in rural America, Amtrak is the only intercity transportation available to them. There are also many Americans who choose not to fly and prefer to travel by rail. Amtrak brings transportation to areas that other carriers wouldn't think of serving because of lack of profitability.

[eolafan]

Gotta admit it's an interesting idea to incrase revenue for Amtrak, ugly as it is!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

VIA uses clients that aren't competition-Telus, Home Hardware, CBC News, Spiderman 2 movie.

What ever generates revenue though.....

Just like a lousey city bus. Very inspiring.

Mitch

[CSXrules4eva]

Oh don't get me started on the Toyota Tundra paint scheme :(:( I hate it!!!!!!!!! Amtrak needs to get rid of it!! but, then again they need the money.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

Oh don't get me started on the Toyota Tundra paint scheme :(:( I hate it!!!!!!!!! Amtrak needs to get rid of it!! but, then again they need the money.

So the whole problem with passenger trains before Amtrak was that the E units didn't have ads. Are we willing to believe that selling ad space on engines props up the revenue that much? I'm sick of everyone selling ad space to everyone else for one thing.

What would be next? Conductors wearing Hertz uniforms with buttons in their lapel that say "Fly United?"

There has to be some sense of propriety here. The phrase, "It generates revenue," is an easy one to rap off the tongue. But in the long run, the image of the train is some-what tarnished.

Of course we could always open up train names to "Naming Rights." Such as "The Cellular One Zephyr," or "Disney's Chief." But we'll never see "Norfolk Southern presents The Lake Shore."

Mitch

[Junctionfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

VIA uses clients that aren't competition-Telus, Home Hardware, CBC News, Spiderman 2 movie.

What ever generates revenue though.....

Just like a lousey city bus. Very inspiring.

Mitch

Unlike the city bus though, the advertising would see more eyes and would attract more eyes. Have to admit, even the oblivious non railfan would take notice of a locomotive with "unusual" paint scheme.

[Anonymous]

The paint does not make the engine easy to look at.

In fact woe onto the engineer who has to drive the thing if he had a problem with that ad on "HIS" engine.

Ad space needs to stay within the sports world such as NASCAR.

Prior to my moving to Arkansas, the east coast were offering private car owners alot of money a month if they are willing to cover thier vehicle in ads. In some cases the entire monthly payment of these cars are paid for by the ads.

Not too shabby. Although the Ad on the side of the GMC fishbowl is acceptable.

But to pay amtrack a few dollars for a really bad logo on their engine? I can say that I prefer to spend the few dollars in the paint budget to at least clean up the chrome on that rusting passenger car it is pulling.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

VIA uses clients that aren't competition-Telus, Home Hardware, CBC News, Spiderman 2 movie.

What ever generates revenue though.....

Just like a lousey city bus. Very inspiring.

Mitch

Unlike the city bus though, the advertising would see more eyes and would attract more eyes. Have to admit, even the oblivious non railfan would take notice of a locomotive with "unusual" paint scheme.

And at the speed of the train would they notice the ad or how lousey the locomotive looks.

I don't understand your reply about how many eyes seeing an ad on a city bus v train. If the ad runs on 100 buses in 30 cities of high population, how do you arrive at your equation?

What I'm referring to is now the motive power is as ugly as a city bus with advertising.

In the condition Amtrak is in, they should be advertising Amtrak as much as possible with the best public image.

Mitch

[Junctionfan]

Trains pull in and out of stations or approach them at low speeds which are usually located in cities or significantly populated areas where commuter trains are present.

In our area, that locomotive would be effective for motorists and any other watchers as there are plenty of slow orders on the line.

That locomotive may see hundreds of eyes at railroad crossings and areas where the locomotive maybe going slow enough for folk to look at. Since that train might be stopping at several large cities, it is fair to say that it will be viewed alot.

I didn't say it would get viewed more then a city bus; all I said was that it would be viewed by folk who normally wouldn't give a darn about trains but might take notice of something out of the ordinary like a Toyota brandishing P-42.

[Anonymous]

Public image? Look at the rusting baggage car immediately behind the engine. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by HighIron2003ar

Public image? Look at the rusting baggage car immediately behind the engine. Ugh.

Yep. Let's fix that too. So how many eyes will see a lousey baggage car pulled by a Tundra?

I don't care how many eyes will see the ad. That's not the problem. One of the things it says is Amtrak is under cover. So what if it pulls in slowly into the depot. If you're standing close to it you can't see the whole thing. It just looks like corporate grafitti. Which it is.

Mitch

[railfan619]

Yeah there right if the train is traveling at 110mph no one is going to see the painting only time you will see it is when the train is in the station or be turned around

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by railfan619

Yeah there right if the train is traveling at 110mph no one is going to see the painting only time you will see it is when the train is in the station or be turned around

This never stopped quite a few airlines from painting up airliners with promotional schemes, like Southwest's Shamu planes or the Star Alliance planes with a six airline hybird scheme. At least a train is visible for more than when an airliner linked to a jetway, provided you're actually in an airport terminal to see it as more than just a white shape at 35,000 feet.

[Anonymous]

So the airlines do it, transit wrap abounds, so it's all OK? Right? It's all graffiti. Well done, poorly done, it's childish no matter how we all sit and try to figure some whack-a-do numbers on visibility.

For years people go to Europe and the rest of the world and come home saying how beautiful these places are. Then they look around and see the mass, garish horror that has become our national visual heritage. Next, they look at their own business and say, "Let's make this thing look like it came out of London." So they decide to have their signs made in England. They have the balls to tell the English sign pinter how to make a sign, despite the fact the business man has no graphic sense what-so-ever, and the English sign guy has been doing it for years, in an age-old manner. Right there the sign is now a lousey confection. It arrives at the businessman's place and everyone looks at it.
Then someone chimes in,"My daughter is taking art lessons, she can fix it."

It saddens me deeply that this culture we live in just can't distinguish garish, child-like visiuals from anything once known as classic.

Yes...a lot of eyes see the stuff. They see it at the airports, they see it at grade crossings, they see it in their sleep. That's the problem. Visitors from overseas see it.

Of course there'll come a time when the engine in question has a grade crossing collision with a red Tundra and the story and related pix will be troubling.

Mitch

[CSXrules4eva]

QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

Oh don't get me started on the Toyota Tundra paint scheme :(:( I hate it!!!!!!!!! Amtrak needs to get rid of it!! but, then again they need the money.

So the whole problem with passenger trains before Amtrak was that the E units didn't have ads. Are we willing to believe that selling ad space on engines props up the revenue that much? I'm sick of everyone selling ad space to everyone else for one thing.

What would be next? Conductors wearing Hertz uniforms with buttons in their lapel that say "Fly United?"

There has to be some sense of propriety here. The phrase, "It generates revenue," is an easy one to rap off the tongue. But in the long run, the image of the train is some-what tarnished.

Of course we could always open up train names to "Naming Rights." Such as "The Cellular One Zephyr," or "Disney's Chief." But we'll never see "Norfolk Southern presents The Lake Shore."

Mitch

Mitch you said it brother!! I hope I never ever see a conductor for any railroad wearing a Hertz uniform. If that was to happen I will really be on a tune, espually if a conductor was advetising US Air or something like that. [:(!]NO I don't think so , that will not due. The conductor should be wearing the traditional railroad uniform with the railroad's name, and his/her name that's about it!!!!!!!!

[Junctionfan]

Well, what ever we think about it, any extra revenue for Amtrak is good for Amtrak. I don't think Toyota would have payed Amtrak for the use of advertising if they didn't think it was worth it.

[Anonymous]

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751

I really like the Toyota Tundra paint scheme. I wonder what Amtrak will use next. [:D]
Nick

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

QUOTE: Originally posted by artmark

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSXrules4eva

Oh don't get me started on the Toyota Tundra paint scheme :(:( I hate it!!!!!!!!! Amtrak needs to get rid of it!! but, then again they need the money.

So the whole problem with passenger trains before Amtrak was that the E units didn't have ads. Are we willing to believe that selling ad space on engines props up the revenue that much? I'm sick of everyone selling ad space to everyone else for one thing.

What would be next? Conductors wearing Hertz uniforms with buttons in their lapel that say "Fly United?"

There has to be some sense of propriety here. The phrase, "It generates revenue," is an easy one to rap off the tongue. But in the long run, the image of the train is some-what tarnished.

Of course we could always open up train names to "Naming Rights." Such as "The Cellular One Zephyr," or "Disney's Chief." But we'll never see "Norfolk Southern presents The Lake Shore."

Mitch

Mitch you said it brother!! I hope I never ever see a conductor for any railroad wearing a Hertz uniform. If that was to happen I will really be on a tune, espually if a conductor was advetising US Air or something like that. [:(!]NO I don't think so , that will not due. The conductor should be wearing the traditional railroad uniform with the railroad's name, and his/her name that's about it!!!!!!!!

Sarah,
Thanks for your kind words. You're right about the uniforms. Don't get me going on the topic however.
Mitch

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

Well, what ever we think about it, any extra revenue for Amtrak is good for Amtrak. I don't think Toyota would have payed Amtrak for the use of advertising if they didn't think it was worth it.

I could care less about Toyota in this matter. What ever Amtrak is receiving for this is chump-change compared to what really is needed, cash-wise. Do you for a moment think that Amtrak could make any service improvements, pay down debt, attract new clients, or afford a clean baggage car by the fees received for this. Compared to the diminishment of their own image, this is silly.

Of course the History Channel could commission a unit or 2 and we could have a big red engine with tanks and Hitler all over the place offending all sorts of folks. But hey, it's a buck ninety-five in the coffer so who cares?

Mitch

[Anonymous]

Check out this picture: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751

Amtrak needs to get some more support. They keep giving money to the airlines.

[Anonymous]

Check out this picture: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751

What advertising logo will be next for Amtrak? [:)]
Nick

[FThunder11]

I saw 84 in Trinidad the week before it was painted

[Anonymous]

Re: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=85751


Nice! I haven't seen 84 since it was Phase 5'd. I like the logos in your signature. [:)]

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have a photo of a DB (German Railways) loco painted with a Mini Cooper on the side?
claudio

[Anonymous]

I looked at the pix of the unit again. What's funny is, first, the artwork of the Tundra is a bit cartoonish. The wheel wells are placed right over the trucks. There's very small type explaining what the red truck is and the lettering is placed way up by the roof, in the left hand corner. Guaranteed to not be read by anyone. So what we have here visually is a cartoon of a roadforeman's hy-railer pulling the train. Very effective indeed.

Mitch