Originally posted by edblysard Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Mookie Member sinceJune 2001 From: US 13,488 posts Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:22 AM [tup] Mookie! She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw Reply bbrant Member sinceFebruary 2001 415 posts Posted by bbrant on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:23 AM Ed - For whatever it's worth, you could say you did the guy a favor. Maybe/hopefully the next time he's out he'll use common sense and take pictures from a safe & public property rather than in the middle of the tracks on private property. There's no substitution for safety, your own or someone elses. For all you know you could've saved this guys life by having him removed from the yard which, as you mentioned, is a dangerous place especially for someone who's not experienced with day-to-day happenings in a yard. He was unreasonable and not willing to compromise so you did what you had to do and should be commended for it. Maybe, with a little luck, somewhere down the road this guy will realize just how stupid he was and will thank you for doing what you did. Brian Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:41 AM I have to agree with Ed, I live 15 miles from one of the busiest hubs on the west coast and it bothers me to think that these idiots are out there ruining the opportunities the legitamate railfans have as it is. Ed you did a great job and should I ever come across you, out of the yard, I would love to shake your hand. Great Job! Reply Edit cpbloom Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Still on the other side of the tracks. 397 posts Posted by cpbloom on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:24 AM One of the first things you should know about as a "railroad enthusiast" (I always put words in quotes when their definition is questionable), is to avoid trespassing yet I still hear stories of this happening and not to just new people, but to some who have been "railfans" for a while and should know better. Reply csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:52 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard CSX.. Yup, it is...here and on model railroader forum. they know who they are... I know because I overheard him trying to use the excuse of "I wasnt hurting anyone, just wanted some photos to...........for my model collection". I did have to make a written statement, and got his name from that. Of course, thats one of the risks that we, railroaders, take when we post about something like that. Some folks seem to think because we share here, on line, that is some sorta invitation... And I think our police officer made it real clear that it wasnt personal, but a matter of safety for the offender. Ed that is true ed..but thats why i never give out a location where i work..or anything that moves thorugh the terminals where im at.... better sometimes to give no information..you know... csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply dwRavenstar Member sinceJanuary 2005 379 posts Posted by dwRavenstar on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:29 AM New employees in our extrusion plant run through a four day safety training program before ever entering the floor. Outside contractors must complete a two day safety orientation before ever coming inside. Visitors, ie customers, who have reason for a personal visit must undergo several hours of safety training and even then may venture no where in the plant without a proper escort. The idea of someone just wandering around a rail yard uninvited and with no advance training is an accident looking for a place to happen. Glad you caught up with him and got him out of there before one of your guys got hurt. Guess I'm glad he got 86'ed before he got himself hurt or killed as well. With luck he'll learn the lesson and start playing by the rules. Dave (dwRavenstar) If hard work could hurt us they'd put warning lables on tool boxes Reply canazar Member sinceAugust 2004 From: Phoenix, Arizona 1,989 posts Posted by canazar on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:04 AM Well, Ed, that sucks he put you in those postions Stop work, that much longer to get home. Put you and your crew in jeapordy. God help him if one of your crew got hurt or killed trying to get him out of there. And he put you in a bad spot becuase he dragged in your personal life with work. I hope he doesnt say a word on here.. He will get flamed so bad, his key board will melt. If it means anything, I would have stoned [}:)]his***with ballast then when he finally got out of the tracks would have beat him with his camera, duck taped him to the fence so everyone else could pop him one in the head. Sorry if my knee jerk response is so neagtive[:(!], but I am just so sick [banghead]of hearing about the few screwing it up for the rest of the good guys that know how to respect and appricate. Thanks for doing what you did Ed and alsothank you for knowing that he is one of the few [censored]s muckin it up. Good luck with you. Warm Regards[:D] John K Best Regards, Big John Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway Reply ajmiller Member sinceOctober 2003 From: State College PA 344 posts Posted by ajmiller on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:09 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Was he by any chance a crazy guy Ed found in a boxcar (possibly with shackles)? Nah....my guess is that detective_kissmydunkirkfinder22 is a ward of a state instution for habitual internet loonies again........they give him meds for about 30 days then let him back on the streets again. Anyway Jorge is about 300 lbs, hairy and has a gentleness that belies his size... Wow, half a day in jail and already with tatoos! And I'll bet you were playing hard-to-get too.... Reply miniwyo Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Rock Springs Wy. 1,967 posts Posted by miniwyo on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:51 AM ED- Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I have no fear and don't think twice about kicking somone out of the pool when they have pushed me far enough. I call security and they escort them out. We even had a guy we asked to leave and wouldnt so we had him arrested for trespassing. I filed a report and everything. RJ "Something hidden, Go and find it. Go and look behind the ranges, Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go." The Explorers - Rudyard Kipling http://sweetwater-photography.com/ Reply dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:27 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Was he by any chance a crazy guy Ed found in a boxcar (possibly with shackles)? Nah....my guess is that detective_kissmydunkirkfinder22 is a ward of a state instution for habitual internet loonies again........they give him meds for about 30 days then let him back on the streets again. Anyway Jorge is about 300 lbs, hairy and has a gentleness that belies his size... Reply ericsp Member sinceMay 2015 5,134 posts Posted by ericsp on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:21 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Was he by any chance a crazy guy Ed found in a boxcar (possibly with shackles)? "No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld) Reply dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:12 AM Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 11, 2005 11:17 PM Great job Ed It's j-off's like him that are ruining railfanning for the rest of us. For most of us here railfanning and photography is the closest we'll ever get to satisfy our 'lust' of all things RR. Unfortunately, he will probably just get his hands slapped and be free to jeapordise further. I'm not in favor of legislation that reduces our ability to do what we love to do but d**s like this need to be brought to terms. He gave up his rights as soon as he trespassed- send in the Judge. What an idiot. Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:43 PM Sorry you had to- but right call Ed! I walked into BNSF's Interbay yard in Seattle about ten years ago.I went into the roundhouse,then to the turntable(got a sd40 being turned) then went to center of yard.I had been in the center about 15 min. when a Employee called me over. He asked me what I was doing and I said.... just taking pics.... Instead of going BALLISTIC He informed me of the dangers to myself and the Workers. I apologized for putting myself and others in harms way. Before escorting me out He let me take 5 more pics and told me what a few locos were I did'nt know. When we got to the main entrance where I came in He showed me how to get to the Eastside of yard next to the fueling tracks on public property. Very cool to do! (PS- Also let me know next time JAIL) To Whoever this was I hope you understand the BAD REP. you give all railfans who do this the RIGHT WAY and the SAFE WAY!!! Reply Edit Junctionfan Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: St.Catharines, Ontario 3,770 posts Posted by Junctionfan on Monday, April 11, 2005 10:24 PM I can't believe that the guy said he had the right to tresspass. I can believe that someone would tresspass but not to say they had the right when they get confronted; and a railfan from the forum. Doesn't he read the posts? All I can say is, you have patience. I would have kicked his butt about the yard before leting the police take him away. I don't like people making my nerves bad when I'm trying to work, I can't imagine you would want it either. Andrew Reply Kozzie Member sinceJanuary 2003 From: Australia 786 posts Posted by Kozzie on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:56 PM Good choice of words Hugh - selfishness causes so much trouble, especially for everyone else... Dave Reply mudchicken Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Denver / La Junta 10,820 posts Posted by mudchicken on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:45 PM He could be like the knucklehead railfan who killed himself on BNSF in Arizona within the past few days (forgot about trains moving on any track at any time). I think he owes you his thanx for saving his brainless, worthless, scurvy, useless keester. http://railroadnews.net/news/4-11.html [}:)][}:)][}:)] Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west Reply edblysard Member sinceMarch 2002 9,265 posts Posted by edblysard on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:44 PM CSX.. Yup, it is...here and on model railroader forum. they know who they are... I know because I overheard him trying to use the excuse of "I wasnt hurting anyone, just wanted some photos to...........for my model collection". I did have to make a written statement, and got his name from that. Of course, thats one of the risks that we, railroaders, take when we post about something like that. Some folks seem to think because we share here, on line, that is some sorta invitation... And I think our police officer made it real clear that it wasnt personal, but a matter of safety for the offender. Ed 23 17 46 11 Reply locomutt Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Louisville,Ky. 5,077 posts Posted by locomutt on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:40 PM Ed, You did YOUR job. As Joe always says;"Stay Safe";and one the very first things I saw,and understood around railroads,was:"Safety First". Very sorry you had to do it,but hopefully some lives have been saved because of. Or at least one. If you want to "railfan" stay in public areas,if you are lucky enough to get permission to be on their property,PLEASE listen to the people that you see. I honestly would like to THANK; Ed for posting that one. Maybe other people will/can see what can happen. Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!! Reply Hugh Jampton Member sinceSeptember 2003 From: Southern Region now, UK 820 posts Posted by Hugh Jampton on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:25 PM Some people are just so selfish, and I hope the judge throws the book at him. Pity it's not a very big book though. I'm sure we'd all be interested in the sentence.. Generally a lurker by natureBe AlertThe world needs more lerts.It's the 3rd rail that makes the difference. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:18 PM Sometimes ya just gotta do that...have them arrested that is. Reply Edit moelarrycurly4 Member sinceApril 2002 From: Paducah KY 1,183 posts Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Monday, April 11, 2005 9:17 PM You hit the nail on the head. I can't believe they were on the yard tracks (yeah I can) 10 years ago I was on SP property at Englewood yard ( their parking lot and didn't know it) and we were told " you can stand over there, but not here" we moved to over there for obvious resons stated above. No its not me I am 800 miles north now. Reply tree68 Member sinceDecember 2001 From: Northern New York 25,026 posts Posted by tree68 on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:42 PM Yep, the old "I'm here, so it must be OK" defense.... The fact that this person was standing in the middle of a live track in an active yard is far less disturbing than the fight he put up when politely requested to leave... Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:40 PM Ya done good, Ed! When will these people ever learn?? It's not about harassment when a train crew tries to get you to move for the sake of safety.[banghead][banghead] Reply Edit csxengineer98 Member sinceOctober 2002 From: US 2,358 posts Posted by csxengineer98 on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:39 PM so what your saying is...it was someone that posts in here? csx engineer "I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel Reply edblysard Member sinceMarch 2002 9,265 posts Posted by edblysard on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:34 PM Cotton Belt GP40 #7272, stenciled Los Angeles..in old style lettering, not the speed letters. Looks like it has never been repainted, and this one is clean, by SP standards! Ed 23 17 46 11 Reply UPTRAIN Member sinceJune 2002 From: Independence, MO 1,570 posts Posted by UPTRAIN on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:31 PM Cool...what number...lol..just wanted to know if I have a pic of it somewhere. Pump Reply edblysard Member sinceMarch 2002 9,265 posts Posted by edblysard on Monday, April 11, 2005 8:26 PM Zach, Its a old Cotton Belt GP40, with three axel trucks replacing the original two axel trucks. Its on a flat car, it and a few of its sisters are on their way to another country... Ed 23 17 46 11 Reply 1234 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard CSX.. Yup, it is...here and on model railroader forum. they know who they are... I know because I overheard him trying to use the excuse of "I wasnt hurting anyone, just wanted some photos to...........for my model collection". I did have to make a written statement, and got his name from that. Of course, thats one of the risks that we, railroaders, take when we post about something like that. Some folks seem to think because we share here, on line, that is some sorta invitation... And I think our police officer made it real clear that it wasnt personal, but a matter of safety for the offender. Ed
Best Regards, Big John
Kiva Valley Railway- Freelanced road in central Arizona. Visit the link to see my MR forum thread on The Building of the Whitton Branch on the Kiva Valley Railway
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Was he by any chance a crazy guy Ed found in a boxcar (possibly with shackles)? Nah....my guess is that detective_kissmydunkirkfinder22 is a ward of a state instution for habitual internet loonies again........they give him meds for about 30 days then let him back on the streets again. Anyway Jorge is about 300 lbs, hairy and has a gentleness that belies his size...
QUOTE: Originally posted by ericsp QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0] Was he by any chance a crazy guy Ed found in a boxcar (possibly with shackles)?
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon Thanks Ed...I spent all afternoon down at Central Booking........I did meet a new friend though...we've got matching half heart tatoos now.....[:0]
RJ
"Something hidden, Go and find it. Go and look behind the ranges, Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you. Go." The Explorers - Rudyard Kipling
http://sweetwater-photography.com/
"No soup for you!" - Yev Kassem (from Seinfeld)
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Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
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