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The UP4023 Big Boy on the Move.

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The UP4023 Big Boy on the Move.
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 9:28 PM
The UP4023 Big Boy will be on the move this Friday morning going to it's NEW Home some where in South Omaha. From what I understand it will cross the UP&BNSF Main's going across on the East side of the Amtrak Depot and going up to 10th Street. The Tender & the Main Locomotive are being Transported seperate. The Locomotive is currently located just north of the Amtrak Station. And if you do get a chance to see this move,well best wishes to you, So......
If anyone has any other info on the Move of UP4023,Please feel free to step in.
Thanks,BNSFrailfan.

PS........And good luck.
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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 10:08 PM
It will make the move up Pacific St to 10th St and then up 10th the botanical gardens on Saturday morning.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:55 AM
I nearly broke a paw nail to open this. May have to try to make Omaha this weekend. Wonder if you can even get any where close to the action? 99% of Omaha will be there.

Friday and Sat both I would imagine! Maybe even Sunday? Will check the Omaha paper and see if any blurbs!

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Posted by spbed on Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:48 AM
Wow hopefully somebody will post pix of this move

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:16 AM
Or host a &^%$ Video.

I can take a video of anything and have it on the net within a few mouse clicks. But will be hostable and free? Nooo.

I trust our Omaha Friends will get the images we crave.
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Posted by spbed on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:20 AM
Anybody know is it going to be pulled/pushed to its new location or will it make the move under its own power?

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Posted by spbed on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:26 AM
I hosted items free at this site

imageshack.us

I do not know if they do video also but for sure stills will work [:o)]


QUOTE: Originally posted by HighIron2003ar

Or host a &^%$ Video.

I can take a video of anything and have it on the net within a few mouse clicks. But will be hostable and free? Nooo.

I trust our Omaha Friends will get the images we crave.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:40 AM
I sure would be interested in seeing the pictures, too.
I can't imagine what kind of truck would pull something like this, or what kind of trailer would hold it.

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Posted by spbed on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:45 AM
I was asking if it was going to be pulled or pushed by a loco or was if it was going to be fired up & move itself. [:o)]


QUOTE: Originally posted by erikthered

I sure would be interested in seeing the pictures, too.
I can't imagine what kind of truck would pull something like this, or what kind of trailer would hold it.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:09 PM
I am no authority, but have seen videos of engines being moved. I am going to guess that the Big Boy has no innards any more, or at least not everything it would need to fire it up. Probably not much more than a shell.

They will probably use some kind of truck power to either push or pull it. I wouldn't think you would use another engine, since I wouldn't think you would have the control you would with truck power. I watched them move a very small switch engine from Lincoln to Iowa for refurbishing on a flatbed truck and they had all kinds of trouble just getting it there. Took many days!

And on the videos, they use platforms and wood blocks to get the engine from point A to point B, very slowly! I don't think this isn't going to be a load it up and run it down the street type of move.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:41 PM
someone please take pictures!!!!
stay safe
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, March 10, 2005 12:52 PM
Joe - I can't find anything in the paper or on websites, but if we can get there and rent a helicopter....

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Posted by miniwyo on Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:01 PM
maybey the will pull it with a bulldozer of some sort i know a D10 or D11 CAT would have the power to pull it. But, the tracks would probably tear up the blacktop.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:58 PM
The Big Boy has had lead and trailing trucks removed and is loaded on a a structural steel frame that has dozens of dualie wheels under it. Its not even moving on the tracks. They spent Wednesday building a ramp across the UP and BNSF mains to drive it across the tracks to a parking lot next to the Amtrak station. From there it will be moved to a display location at the botanical gardens which is right at the west end, north side of the I-80 bridge across the Missouri.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:29 PM
....That's a bunch of weight to move....Engine and tender loaded would be over 500 tons....So the engine alone minus some wheel trucks might weigh...300 tons or so. still very heavy for city streets but weight being dispersed by the dozens of supporting wheels it should be ok...They move large buildings that weigh that much and more...They can use several trucks to move it...just by adding as many as it takes to make it move.

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Posted by Modelcar on Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:32 PM
....Sure hope someone can be present and catch photos and put some on here to see.
...Did you hear that Jen....

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Posted by monkeyman2 on Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:33 PM
I WANNA SEE PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thats sounds REALLY Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by railman on Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:44 PM
Go pictures!
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Posted by kenneo on Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:38 PM
Mook-----

Ed is going to bring his Hemi. Should take just one - his.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:06 PM
Hmm..definatly need to see pics of this bad baby being pulled down a city street.
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Posted by Mookie on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The Big Boy has had lead and trailing trucks removed and is loaded on a a structural steel frame that has dozens of dualie wheels under it. Its not even moving on the tracks. They spent Wednesday building a ramp across the UP and BNSF mains to drive it across the tracks to a parking lot next to the Amtrak station. From there it will be moved to a display location at the botanical gardens which is right at the west end, north side of the I-80 bridge across the Missouri.

Dave H.
Dave - any timetable as to when and how long this will take place? I would think it would take several days of set up and moving to get it to it's final resting place, but since they moved if from Kennefick, maybe they have it down to a science.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:14 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by kenneo

Mook-----

Ed is going to bring his Hemi. Should take just one - his.


Tell him to show you his Mafia Car pictures!

And for the rest of you, Dave lives in Omaha and probably has a decent camera. My camera is one that still uses flash powder and with even a twelve shot roll of film, it still takes me 2 years to get enough pictures to get it developed. Don't worry - someone will have those pictures all over the news, weather and sports and forum!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 7:07 AM
Here ya go, a pic of the beast already: http://www.trainboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=005438;p=0
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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, March 11, 2005 7:35 AM
...If you're relying on the media to provide some photos of moving a "railroad engine"....we're in big trouble...Not sure many of them would know what it is....Especially a steam engine...!

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Posted by spbed on Friday, March 11, 2005 7:42 AM
Thanks for the pix. I saw her live & in person when I visited the UPRR HQs. [:)]



QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

Here ya go, a pic of the beast already: http://www.trainboard.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=005438;p=0

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, March 11, 2005 7:49 AM
SteamerFan....Very excellent photos...very much appreciated. From the view of the engine on it's platform it looks like I'm seeing at least the rear trailing truck is still attached to the engine....
Seeing the platform and the supporting boggie sets and the relative flat and smooth surface it will travel on, I'd say it will not be much of a problem to move it forward. The kind of trucks they use to do pulling of such loads are equipped with gear ratios so slow it will move right out.....

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, March 11, 2005 8:03 AM
Wonderful pictures - lot better than I would get!

The old boy doesn't look so intimidating from this angle, but standing right next to it, up close and personal - you could almost hear a heartbeat. And it is huge!

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, March 11, 2005 8:06 AM
....And heavy..!

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 8:08 AM
I called the Omaha world herald yesterday and it's on the front page.
www.omaha.com
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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 AM
....So this supporting platform has hydraulic powered wheel sets to power it's self....and won't require trucks to pull it. Wonder where the power is generated to provide the hydraulic power, possibly in a trailing vehicle with a diesel operated generator and connected by cables or possibly the generator set is right on the platform rig....

Quentin

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