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The UP4023 Big Boy on the Move.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 14, 2005 12:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by SteamerFan

Look at the pics of the 2 tow trucks trying to pull it, man that must have been scary for the drivers.


Actually not scary. Those macks ride on twin rails frame. As long as those rails dont break and as the drive tandem's suspension limits continue to "keep hold" on the road that first gear pulling is quite fun.

They know that there never enough torque to carry the load by themselves, it is kind of like having a pair of children assisting daddy in moving something big and heavy.

We used to have truck pulls with the old style non computerized engines back in the day.. the front ends would come up off the ground as we fought to get as much power down on those drives without twisting the driveshaft.

So they probably were told "watch that clutch! and giver her hell" and off they went. Or... up they went he he.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 14, 2005 12:27 PM
Aint thet jest sumtin!
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Posted by vsmith on Monday, March 14, 2005 11:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by spbed

Actually it is a movie prop made out of what else? Plastic![:p]



QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan.

It's just amaizing that they even got that thing up that huge hill on 10th Street. And not to say even Pacific Street too,That is one very steep hill.
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Posted by spbed on Monday, March 14, 2005 10:55 AM
Actually it is a movie prop made out of what else? Plastic![:p]



QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSF railfan.

It's just amaizing that they even got that thing up that huge hill on 10th Street. And not to say even Pacific Street too,That is one very steep hill.
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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, March 14, 2005 7:34 AM
...Here we are, Monday morning....Wonder if the job is completed for the moving...Has it been placed successfully at the destination.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:16 PM
...Thanks for the info Dave. Speaks well of the rebuild job.

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Posted by chemung on Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....In the above picture it looks like they have just negotiated over a bridge on that street, and if that is the case it must be a good stout one to hold that weight.


That is the 10st bridge over the UP & BNSF mainlines.The flags in the rear right are at the old Union Station,now a museum.The bridge was rebuilt about two years ago.

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Posted by jeaton on Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:02 PM
Go to omaha.com, click on the Metro link and there is a slide show with ten pics.

Drew a crowd, fer sher.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:29 PM
....In the above picture it looks like they have just negotiated over a bridge on that street, and if that is the case it must be a good stout one to hold that weight.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:21 PM
It's just amaizing that they even got that thing up that huge hill on 10th Street. And not to say even Pacific Street too,That is one very steep hill.
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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, March 13, 2005 5:06 PM
Here is a pic from Omaha.com in case the link didnt work.

Mechanical Department  "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."

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Posted by spbed on Sunday, March 13, 2005 1:03 PM
Whoo those are terrific thanks. [:)]


QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

Here are some more pictures, not mine, credits to photographer.




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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:28 AM
Look at the pics of the 2 tow trucks trying to pull it, man that must have been scary for the drivers.
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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:30 AM
....Thanks for that update Willy...

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Posted by Willy2 on Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:19 AM
Here's a link to an article on the move. The article itself isn't great but there are some good photos. To view the photos click on the link that is under "slide show" on the website.

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=1358791

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Posted by Willy2 on Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:52 AM
Yesterday evening (March 12) I went down to the Amtrak station to take a look and found out that they did get it off the tracks. They must have gotten it to its destination because I didn't see it anywhere in the immediate vicinity.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:54 AM
....What a massive bunch of equipment to do the job.....144 wheels under the engine. Each one carrying a bit over 2 ton if we assume the engine might weigh about 300 tons.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, March 12, 2005 8:34 PM
coborn 35: Thanks for posting these great pic's....Trying to determine if the rig has moved beyond where the break down occured yesterday....Looks like different colored boggies under the center part but not sure if they were all same color to start with....The first photo blows up into a full screen pic and it is really sharp and great...! To whom ever is taking these please keep them coming. I'm sure lots of fans are enjoying them, I know I am....Happen to be interested in this craft of moving very heavy objects.

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Posted by coborn35 on Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:17 PM
Here are some more pictures, not mine, credits to photographer.



Mechanical Department  "No no that's fine shove that 20 pound set all around the yard... those shoes aren't hell and a half to change..."

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 6:21 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by tatans

Steamerfan : Great photos, gratefully appreciated. IRONY= when a rather large steam engine is crossing a set of railway tracks on a rubber tired vehicle and blocks a mainline railroad, could anyone have written a better script. Do you think the engine is just peeing itself laughing? I do.
That is not much of a MAJOR Main Line at all,you'd be very lucky if there are 3 Trains on that line on Omaha.
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Posted by tatans on Saturday, March 12, 2005 5:27 PM
Steamerfan : Great photos, gratefully appreciated. IRONY= when a rather large steam engine is crossing a set of railway tracks on a rubber tired vehicle and blocks a mainline railroad, could anyone have written a better script. Do you think the engine is just peeing itself laughing? I do.
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, March 12, 2005 3:22 PM
...Sure hope the source of yesterday's photos wil be on site today and make them available to have them posted on here like yesterday....Anxious to hear it they got it free and off the tracks and a new boggie or boggies replaced, etc....

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:58 PM
....I would say something like that is what they're going to have to do.....Don't see how it could be replaced where it is located in the photo...I'd guess they will have to move the load one direction or another and hope the remaining boggies are enough to support the load in so doing and then think about replacing that or {those}, damaged ones. And I agree with above post in having to redo the approaches on the road services to allow a more gental rise up and over the tracks....
I watched movers move a very large and heavy building here in Muncie several years ago and getting around city street corners {taking down utility poles and even cutting down some trees and those boggies really take a beating making such a turn...A fascinating piece of work to observe...

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:40 AM
I would have brought in some gravel. Laid it out..

I wonder if you could remove the damaged unit and "drive" the load back off the tracks and place a replacement under there?
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, March 12, 2005 7:52 AM
....Fixing that problem....Yes, that will be interesting. It sure looks to me the prep of the road service was inadequate where they crossed the rise in the tracks...When the load got to the mid point the mid boggies could not retract any more and took too much load and collapsed.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 10:23 PM
The next set of photos are probably going to be obscured by many many big bosses examining the extent of the damage come daylight.

I have a great interest in seeing how they FIX that little problem.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, March 11, 2005 5:13 PM
thanks for the links and the info everyone. they guys have their work cut out for them.
stay safe
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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM
...We're glad to be able to see them.....

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 11, 2005 3:45 PM
Not my photo's just linking them from another forum.

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