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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:21 AM
If you want a 30 percent increase in gas mileage, buy a diesel car.... Instead of around 30 mpg highway you'll get over 40 mpg.... Volkswagen Passats, Jettas, Beetles, and Golfs have TDI diesel engines.... A year ago it seemed like diesel was cheaper than unleaded, now it appears diesel fuel is more expensive, but you'll still be ahead due to the increased gas mileage.....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 12, 2005 1:30 AM
Typical skeptic Don, my m.p.g. average is up 20%. You can use any facts and figures you like, only one that matters to me is in my wallet! Stew
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Posted by oltmannd on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by S.A.Deerfield

You guy's want to cut down on your fuel bills go to my web site http://www.stewart.myextremeresearch.com I'm a skeptic and didn't believe until I saw for myself, it works besides you get your money back if it doesn't.


Typical "Snake Oil" pitch. The only published paper is missing:

-statistical analysis
-engine dynamometer testing
-no evidence that the testing is blind

Dynamomoter testing would be the FIRST step in testing a fuel additive. Lack of statistical analysis, particularly when doing over the road testing is a sure sign of either incompetence or bias.

There is nothing new under the sun - particularly w.r.t. a fuel additive that will improve efficiency 10-35%!

Save your money for the purchase of actual BTUs!

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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 8:27 AM
Morning paper says oil prices will be felt at grocery stores at harvest time. Last year the price of oil was $35.00 a barrel at this time and this year it is $55.00 a barrel. Many local farmers say that this may be their last year in business if oil prices don't stabilize. Many of the farmers in the area that grow tomatos for sauce and paste production say that if they don't receive substantially more than last year for their crops they won't be around next year as a result of the oil prices.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 10:55 AM
You guy's want to cut down on your fuel bills go to my web site http://www.stewart.myextremeresearch.com I'm a skeptic and didn't believe until I saw for myself, it works besides you get your money back if it doesn't.
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Posted by adrianspeeder on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:56 AM
Whooo hoooo 1.99 yay

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, May 9, 2005 10:09 PM
....1.98 Muncie today.

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, May 9, 2005 9:00 PM
We had a case of a guy in Stockyon dring his pickup into closed stationa at night putting his hood up like he was having a problem and breaking the lock off an underground storage tank and filling a 200 gallon tank he had in the bed of his pickup. He then sold the gasoline for 1.50 a gallon to his neighbors. One service station owner who was robbed said he should have gotten a least 2.00 a gallon. He was caught when a neighbor who saw the hood up thought it was suspicious that he was at the back of the pickup and phoned Police. He had robbed several closed stations over the last several weeks. Guess he won't have to worry about the price of gasoline for about the next five years at least.
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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:10 PM
....By the way, I noticed our gasoline dropped to 2.00 today...and if it doesn't spike back up tomorrow we may see it break back down into the 1.99 range or less...It'll be interesting to watch. Hasn't been below 2.00 for quite a while now....{Muncie, In.}.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, May 8, 2005 10:07 PM
....Esso road maps were very good ones...plain and easy to read....and we used to get them by the box full for giving out to our customers free.....Good Esso service. I'm talking late 30's and 40's {after the war}....and into the 50's too.....

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Posted by motor on Sunday, May 8, 2005 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....Don't forget the Free "Esso Road Maps"...that now cost $$$.


My favorite Esso/Exxon map was the New Jersey map. Esso/Exxon had the best maps, with the possible exception of AAA.

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, May 8, 2005 9:05 PM
JUst on our local news that one of the Bay area refineries is shutting down for annual cleaning and service so gasoline prices will remain high.
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Posted by passengerfan on Saturday, May 7, 2005 9:46 PM
Isn't developing the Rocky Mountain Shale Oil beginning to look more tempting with no idea where oil prices are going but up. The Canadians are having success with the Athabaska Tar sands oil so i guess it is only a matter of time until we take a second look at the Shale oil.
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Posted by eolafan on Saturday, May 7, 2005 9:28 AM
This week I filled up in Aurora before leaving for Springfield and St. Louis and paid $2.23 in Aurora then filled again in Springfield at $1.99 per and then again on Friday afternoon on way back from St. Louis at the same Springfield station off the interstate and this time paid $2.08 per (higher due to weekend approaching no doubt but still lots less than in Aurora with our regional transportation taxes to pay for METRA and PACE train and bus services.
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Posted by spbed on Saturday, May 7, 2005 8:14 AM
Yes that is exactly what the Saudi minister said. He also included India with China though. [:D][:p]

The way GWB has POed Putin if Russia did not need the cashola so badly Putin would have probably cut us off & laughed as the price really spiked! [:(][:(]

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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, May 6, 2005 9:52 PM
Thank the Chinese I understand they will buy whatever they can get on the more expensive spot market and any Saudi increase in production their industrial needs will take.
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Posted by spbed on Friday, May 6, 2005 1:16 PM
Oh, oh in trading today oil is rising again.

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Posted by eolafan on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 8:59 PM
Well, here's a little bit of good news (for me anyway), I filled up in Aurora, IL on Friday for $2.25 per and then again this evening in Springfield, IL for $2.01 per! Headed for
St. Louis Thursday afternoon and will report back from there.
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Posted by passengerfan on Wednesday, May 4, 2005 7:48 PM
At last our Governor who if anyone doesn't know drives a Humvee belies it is time to get behind rail travel in the Golden State. And he is calling for 110 mile per hour trains operating throughout the state within fiove yerars and 160 mph trains in ten years. Sure will beat traveling the freeways at 39 mph average as we do today in the LA area and SF areas.
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Posted by spbed on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:13 AM
As I have said many times we have to start a national project similar to the Manhattan project of the 40s or the moon program of the 60s to become self sufficent as soon as possible since as China/India demands for oil increases which will only mean higher & higher prices for our gasoline. [:o)][:p][:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 7:53 AM
I don't think the number of refineries is really a big issue. The oil companies seem to prefer consolidating and expanding the ones they have, rather than building new ones. They need to be located near ports or piplines, so building one on an Air Force base in North Dakota doesn't necessarily make a lot of sense. There's a refinery complex near here in Lockport. and many of the smaller operators within it have shutdown and are abandoned, so there's plenty of room and infrastructure for the 2 majors that are left to expand production. Another part of the refining problem is the 20+ variations of mandated 'clean-burning' fuels, many of which are based on patents held by Union Oil and require royalty payments.

From a long-term strategic point of view, it makes more sense to pump the middle east dry while keeping our reserves in the ground for the future, especially since right now oil is an international business. I think the real reason we're in Iraq and staying cozy with the Saudi's is fear the middle east will say screw the west and cut a seperate deal with China and Russia. I doubt the Navy uses enough oil to even make a dent, but oil for heating homes could be easily replaced by natural gas or electricity. Natural gas would be more plentiful if the utilities would stop burning it to make electriciy and used coal & nuclear instead.
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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, May 2, 2005 5:52 PM
Our local paper had article on California refineries this AM said their are only two California refineries that refine Alaska Crude. One of these is in Richmond the other is at San Pedro. Washington State also has two refineries that refine Alaska Crude. That amounts to about two tankers a week to each refinery and the balance of the tankers loading Alaska Crude are transporting it to Japan. Japan has maor refineries to handle and refine Alaska Crude then we do. The Japanese in turn transport Saudi Crude to U.S. Refineries on both coasts. Apparently Alaska Crude requires special refinerery equipment to be processed to gasoline and Saudi Crude does not. Another source of crude oil for California refineries is that oil found in the Santa Barbara Channel and their is a ban on any additional drilling their thanks to the Enviromental wackos. Santa Barbara Oil like Saudi Crude can be refined by any U.S. refinery. Maybe when gasoline reaches 5.00 per gallon these wackos will let additional offshore rigs into the Santa Barbara Channel. The other large reserves in California are located at Signal Hill but this oil is all consigned to the U.S. Navy. Instead of listening to Presidents Carter and Clinton we should have listened to Reagan who advocated an all nuclear Navy and then we would not need the Signal Hill oil instead we could be pumping it into our cars today keeping gasoline prices reasonable.
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Posted by spbed on Monday, May 2, 2005 7:40 AM
Actually what the Saudi said no matter if they raise production it will be eaten up by China & India as there demand is growing quickly. Yes GWB did mention that no new refining facilities has been built since 76 here. [:(][:(]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 2, 2005 6:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Leon Silverman

Saudi Arabia agreement to raise oil production will have absolutely no effect on gas prices here since we have no excess refining capacity available to handle the added supplies. This is why Bush has already stated that he cannot do anything that will lower gas prices for the short term.


He keeps saying that, but he and Congress could get rid of the Federal taxes on fuels. Not only would that help consumers, it would give the economy a good kick in the pants. The Federal Trust funds are just bogus accounting gimmicks anyway, and his energy bill is just more corporate welfare for his Texas oil buddies. If one really believes in free-markets, high prices lead to people buying more efficient cars, automakers building more efficient cars, and oil companies plowing those record profits into exploration and production.
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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:56 PM
passengerfan....Can relate to all you mention...and it sounds like your owner wanted a neat and clean business...A good way to keep it.
Spbed.....I would imagine the clean up detailing and wax service I was discribing in my earlier post is now over 100 dollars.....

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 6:32 PM
Gee and when I worked in the station got two dollars to wa***he car and that included vacuuming, washing the windows inside and out, and hand washing the car and using a shammy cloth to wipe it down after. And we also cleaned the dash and washed any floor mats separately all for the 2.00.
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Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:09 PM
Just so you know where I live detailing is still only $25.00 per car! [:o)][:D]

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Posted by spbed on Sunday, May 1, 2005 3:07 PM
Gas in the lower SE hit $2.40 a gallon for 87 octane

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Posted by passengerfan on Sunday, May 1, 2005 8:38 AM
My service station experience wasn't in a family station but the owner certainly made everyone feel like family. Especially the day shift he brought them doughnuts everyday from the bakery up the street. There were four service bays and all four were busy during the day shift. I came on at 3:00 PM and by six I was all alone. The others had all gone home. The boss would often drop in during the evening and bring me a piece of fresh pie left over from their dinner or sometimes my favorite Chocolate cake. His wife Sandy was one heck of a baker and I enjoyed the treats brought to me. My Mother used to bring me dinner as itr was only two blocks away. The one stipulation was that I bring the plate home clean, we had silverware at the station. I usually ate my dinner about six thirty then it was study time for my homework. Wasn't many customers in the evening so one of my jobs was to fill the island oil racks that were covered and locked at night. Another chore was the cleanup of the bays. Which we used solvent and mops in those days to clean. It probably took one hour to do the clean up of the bays and then I had to sweep the office area a ten minute job. My last task before goiung home was to wash down the islands so they would be nice and clean for the mornig shift that started at five AM. It was a good job for a high scholl kid in those days and I always managed to get my homework completed for the next day. Rarely did I have anything but pumping gas in the evening. Sometimes the occasional fan belt or once in a great while a battery needed replacing. I think my biggest sale one time was a set of tires. I had to call one of the day mechanics to help with that as I still had customers to pump gas for.
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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:35 AM
....And in the service station....."we"...{our family business}, washed thousands of cars at 1.50 each and detailed {waxed}, for up to 20.00...an all day job worked in along with the other routine business....

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