How do you feel about GRAFFITI on trains?

[spbed]

If you watch The Apprentice this week the task was to employed GRAFFITI artists to paint a mural to sell Sony Play Station. [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by southern lady

How do you feel about GRAFFITI on trains?

[vsmith]

How about a creative solution, these kids need jobs, and God know most freight cars out there are so decrepid they could use a paint job, put 2 and 2 together.

The RR's should hire these kids to repaint their cars, just give'em a photo of what a brand new car looks like, a crate of spray cans and let them have at it! If they can cover a car in graffiti in one night, they can repaint a boxcar in a day! start them at one end of the yard and in no time at all you got a bunch of shiny newly painted frieght cars!


OK maybe I'm stretching at bit, but ya cant blame me for tryin'.....[8D]

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I get so tired of all of the holier than thou attitudes here. I actually happen to like graffiti on railroad cars. It makes them more visually interesting. I think it shows real class to deliberately NOT cover reporting marks. It does not impare the functioning of the cars, and may help to prevent rust.
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Yeah, it's a crime, but it is highly impersonal when done on trains. Perhaps you would rather they be painting your car or your house.

I think a lot of people actually agree with you to a certain extent. It's amazing the artistic ability some of these vandals seem to have. I recently saw a tri-level auto carrier with the WHOLE SIDE painted. Not a bit of bare metal to be seen. It was tastefully done (as in no profanity), but must have required a scaffold to complete.

But it all begs some questions: What if that same effort was put into painting some old ladies house - one that really needed the paint? Wouldn't that be a much better end product? Where did the paint come from? If they actually bought it, what a waste of money - that could have painted an old lady's house. If they didn't buy it, you and I are paying for it next time we shop at where ever they stole it from.

So what this all means is not that a lot of us don't appreciate the effort and ability that goes into these rolling works of art. We do. We just feel that the effort and ability are misdirected onto property that is not theirs to decorate.

[morseman]

a while back Montreal's subway (the Metro} was being vandalized by
these "artists" It was found that the best way to curb them was to get
rid of their "artwork" as soon as it occured. Each night as soon as the
Metro closed down all graffiti was removed from the cars and stations..
When I was back in Montreal a few years ago not a trace of graffiti.

Look at the change that has occured with the NewYork subways.
On our Ontario highways in my neighbourhood graffiti is removed
shortly after it occurs, The graffiti is painted over with black paint.

Soon as these "artists" are caught, the punishment would be for
them to work in a rr yard for a year or more removing graffiti and
other menial chores.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by thebreeze05

QUOTE: Originally posted by bjk041089

Alot of their artwork is very artistic, but I wonder why they don't sign up for an art class of some sort? It puzzles me.

because they do drugs quit school have sex with there sisters and are not the brightest crayons in the box[:D][:D]

None of that is true, that is just pure BULLS**T. [#dots]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Big_Boy_4005

I get so tired of all of the holier than thou attitudes here. I actually happen to like graffiti on railroad cars. It makes them more visually interesting. I think it shows real class to deliberately NOT cover reporting marks. It does not impare the functioning of the cars, and may help to prevent rust.

Trying to stop it is like pissing into the wind, so why waste the limited police resources. Police time is much better spent catching people who break into containers and steal merchandise.

Railroad graffiti is not necessarily gang related, though it can be. Gang graffiti is more closely associated with stationary objects, and railroad cars move. Yes, gang members will hit cars when stopped on their turf. Personally, I can't think of too many classy neighborhoods with railroad tracks in them.

Yeah, it's a crime, but it is highly impersonal when done on trains. Perhaps you would rather they be painting your car or your house.

HOLY CHRIST, LOOK! It's another one! One of only a few! One of only a few who's not old, spiteful, lacking imagination, and angry at the world! By gollyballs!

Wow, am I hearing this correctly? I must concur with your words a bit. While I may not be the biggest fan of graffiti, I am a friend of logic and wisdom...

[Big_Boy_4005]

QUOTE: Originally posted by kevinstheRRman

I have this new fair trade agreement, Per burst of spray paint emitted from the can equals one punch for yours truly (MOI)

Works out to either...

A) Digesting a LOT of teeth
B) A date with the floor.

Great attitude Kevin, violence over vandilism. If the world behaved that way, we would have had nuclear war long ago.

[Big_Boy_4005]

I get so tired of all of the holier than thou attitudes here. I actually happen to like graffiti on railroad cars. It makes them more visually interesting. I think it shows real class to deliberately NOT cover reporting marks. It does not impare the functioning of the cars, and may help to prevent rust.

Trying to stop it is like pissing into the wind, so why waste the limited police resources. Police time is much better spent catching people who break into containers and steal merchandise.

Railroad graffiti is not necessarily gang related, though it can be. Gang graffiti is more closely associated with stationary objects, and railroad cars move. Yes, gang members will hit cars when stopped on their turf. Personally, I can't think of too many classy neighborhoods with railroad tracks in them.

Yeah, it's a crime, but it is highly impersonal when done on trains. Perhaps you would rather they be painting your car or your house.

[fievel]

I don't know what the penalty for vandalizing RR property is, but if those criminals
paint over important information which identifies the contents of the car, then a lot
of people could have their lives at stake in the event of a derailment.
Or a costly evacuation while authorities attempt to figure out what all that white
powder is -bread flour, or something that can kill people.
Catch the vandals and jail them for a very long time.
Graffiti is NOT COOL. [:(!]

[rf16a]

Ugly vandalism.

[espeefoamer]

QUOTE: Originally posted by thebreeze05

the worst ive seen was when som one wrote UP on a SP loco

oh thats supposed to be there my bad

I saw a Rio Grande unit today that had not been vandalized by the UP gangbangers tagging division[:)].

[jwinter]

Providing them "legal" space where they can spray their garbage does not work. It was tried and this only empowered them and the amount of graffiti got worse. This would be like putting up paper targets in the hood for gangbangers to shoot at instead of people. It will only lead to more shootings. Trying the soft intellectual approach does not work with these simple minded animals.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I find it interesting that railroads seem so intent on chasing railfans away than dealing with these punks causing $$$$$$ of damage. These same railfans are the ones that would help a railroad by reporting a crime or damage or an accident or defective equipment on a train, but instead they are treated like criminals. Yes there are some railfans that go too far, but the majority of the fans I've run into are good people. I've suggested that railroads find a way to work with railfans so they can be the eyes and ears of the railroad companies. Perhaps you've heard of Community Policing where the police and the community work together to make a neighborhood or community safer. Well what about "Community Railroading?"

Someone said that the RXR Police said they can't be everywhere to catch these vandals. But if they spent more time in the yard catching these vandals instead of chasing a middle aged railfan standing on a station plateform or along the right-of-way, perhaps they could stop it. Time to wake up RailCops, the bad guys are in your backyard.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by thebreeze05

the worst ive seen was when som one wrote UP on a SP loco

oh thats supposed to be there my bad

You can still catch a couple of the old sp locos that have not yet been degraded with a union pathetic logo. I wish you could say the same for CNW but that takeover seems just too long ago. I don't mind the graffiti too much but it does irritate me a bit when some douchebag paints on a locomotive. That's overstepping it and the sucker who did it oughta be lashed with a brake hose.

[Anonymous]

the worst ive seen was when som one wrote UP on a SP loco

oh thats supposed to be there my bad

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bjk041089

Alot of their artwork is very artistic, but I wonder why they don't sign up for an art class of some sort? It puzzles me.

because they do drugs quit school have sex with there sisters and are not the brightest crayons in the box[:D][:D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt

QUOTE: Originally posted by southern lady

do you feel the same about streakers?
do you streak?
im sure half of the people on here streak but they wont admit it.
[:X][;)]

NO!!!
NO!!!
Don't bet on it!!!!![:D]

Oh come on, you don't have to doubt it.

[adrianspeeder]

I have a solution to any vandal problems. It is two digits and works well protecting the PSD and Broncos. The number is 12 and it makes a pleasing sound doing its work.

Adrianspeeder

[locomutt]

QUOTE: Originally posted by southern lady

do you feel the same about streakers?
do you streak?
im sure half of the people on here streak but they wont admit it.
[:X][;)]

NO!!!
NO!!!
Don't bet on it!!!!![:D]

[Anonymous]

do you feel the same about streakers?
do you streak?
im sure half of the people on here streak but they wont admit it.
[:X][;)]

[cpbloom]

QUOTE: Originally posted by HighIron2003ar

The fact that locomotives are now showing grafitti tells me it's time to get rid of the expensive multi colored paint schemes that executives like to dream up and just spray primer on the locomotive with the required markings.

IF it gets tagged again then another shot of primer takes care of the problem cheaply.

Enter Norfolk Southern [:)]

[Anonymous]

I would imagine the amount of paint consumed keeps hobby shops in business.

Let's just say that I wont buy models of train stuff with grafitti on them.

The fact that locomotives are now showing grafitti tells me it's time to get rid of the expensive multi colored paint schemes that executives like to dream up and just spray primer on the locomotive with the required markings.

IF it gets tagged again then another shot of primer takes care of the problem cheaply.

[Anonymous]

I have this new fair trade agreement, Per burst of spray paint emitted from the can equals one punch for yours truly (MOI)

Works out to either...

A) Digesting a LOT of teeth
B) A date with the floor.

[cpbloom]

QUOTE: Originally posted by bjk041089

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I can't stand it! No matter how you look at it, it's still vandalism, plain and simple!

Maybe, you can stop the vandals if you can convince them some how, to use their skills on something creative, like an art class. Maybe then, the vandalism would stop. Did you ever think of that?

I disagree. Many cities have designated walls or areas exclusively for use by graffiti artists in the hope that it would discourage graffiti, vandalism and trespassing but these designated areas have not been shown to reduce illegal graffiti elsewhere. It sort of takes the "fun" out of graffiti if they can do it legally.

[spbed]

As I train watch I find some of the graffiti quite imaginative & think whomeever did it certainly has a future as a artisit. I have also done sone of it on my HO cars to make them more realistic.

[locomutt]

Looks like this subject got brought back up again;
It's pure & simple vandalism,and should not be
tolerated and violators should be prosecuted to
fullest extent possible.

[Anonymous]

tag there house

[Anonymous]

I hate it !!!! I think these people need to get A job.

[vsmith]

Reposted yet again from the various "train kills idiot with paint can" threads here and there, still sums it up nicely for me,

again with apologies to Mr Larson[bow][bow][bow]

[Modelcar]

....Defacing other owners property is against the law....Violators should be brought into court and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And given an additional sentence of strict public service....Very public....!!

[Anonymous]

I hate it,I hate it alot. I looks realy Dumb and very stupid.