FYI-,
I bought the CP Rail System map from the CP employee store and it includes the KCS lines and lines in Mexico, very well done and worth the price. Even comes with a special smooth coating on it.
CMStPnP FYI-, I bought the CP Rail System map from the CP employee store and it includes the KCS lines and lines in Mexico, very well done and worth the price. Even comes with a special smooth coating on it.
The CP Rail brand was and is powerful... its been decades since CP Rail became Canadian Pacific, yet even today the name CP Rail persists.. By contrast almost nobody refers to BNSF as "Santa Fe" even though that name was certainly iconic and woven into the very fabric of American history.
UlrichThe CP Rail brand was and is powerful... its been decades since CP Rail became Canadian Pacific, yet even today the name CP Rail persists.. By contrast almost nobody refers to BNSF as "Santa Fe" even though that name was certainly iconic and woven into the very fabric of American history.
Because in those days it was also: CP Ships, CP Air, CP Hotels, CP Rail, etc and a real multi-modal company.
Ulrich The CP Rail brand was and is powerful... its been decades since CP Rail became Canadian Pacific, yet even today the name CP Rail persists.. By contrast almost nobody refers to BNSF as "Santa Fe" even though that name was certainly iconic and woven into the very fabric of American history.
Go to the right area you will most certainly here people still refer to the BNSF as Santa Fe. Just as some still call it the BN in some areas.
SD60MAC9500Go the right area you will most certainly here people still refer to the BNSF as Santa Fe. Just as some still call it the BN in some areas.
And there are a lot of people who just refer to them as "that d****d railroad..."
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Being in former BN territory, often in casual conversation it's still referred to as "BN" at work. Even by BNSF people. There's a few instances where you can still hear "Q" being used.
Old railroad names seem to last long after the original name, and sometimes the railroad itself, is long gone. Nonrailroad related names for places also last so long that what or whom they were named for have been all but forgotten.
Jeff
CMStPnP Ulrich The CP Rail brand was and is powerful... its been decades since CP Rail became Canadian Pacific, yet even today the name CP Rail persists.. By contrast almost nobody refers to BNSF as "Santa Fe" even though that name was certainly iconic and woven into the very fabric of American history. Because in those days it was also: CP Ships, CP Air, CP Hotels, CP Rail, etc and a real multi-modal company.
Not only that.. CP has not been through any major mergers like our Class 1's. It's always been CP so that's what everyone knows. Unless you count the Toronto Hamilton & Buffalo as a major transaction
I would opine that the Canadian Pacific brand is powerful since it was a truly multi-modal company as mentioned above. For Canadians, it showed the flag to the rest of the world through its ships and planes.
The CP even had service in Europe in the form of chartered Pullman cars attached to various trains.
SD60MAC9500 CMStPnP Ulrich The CP Rail brand was and is powerful... its been decades since CP Rail became Canadian Pacific, yet even today the name CP Rail persists.. By contrast almost nobody refers to BNSF as "Santa Fe" even though that name was certainly iconic and woven into the very fabric of American history. Because in those days it was also: CP Ships, CP Air, CP Hotels, CP Rail, etc and a real multi-modal company. Not only that.. CP has not been through any major mergers like our Class 1's. It's always been CP so that's what everyone knows. Unless you count the Toronto Hamilton & Buffalo as a major transaction
Soon to be CPKC if the STB gives final OK.
That will leave UP as the only surviving name from the 19th Century.
kgbw49 Soon to be CPKC if the STB gives final OK. That will leave UP as the only surviving name from the 19th Century.
I think that CPKC name is just temporary. After a year or two it will go back to just being called Canadian Pacific.
jeffhergert Being in former BN territory, often in casual conversation it's still referred to as "BN" at work. Even by BNSF people. There's a few instances where you can still hear "Q" being used. Old railroad names seem to last long after the original name, and sometimes the railroad itself, is long gone. Nonrailroad related names for places also last so long that what or whom they were named for have been all but forgotten. Jeff
Here on the D&H (see, I just did it!) The "D&H" is as common or more commonly used than CP or Canadian Pacific, among both railroaders and railfans alike. I imagine that will slowly fade away, but it's been over 30 years since CP took over...
I'm not sure if the NS segment is the same way.
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SD60MAC9500 kgbw49 Soon to be CPKC if the STB gives final OK. That will leave UP as the only surviving name from the 19th Century. I think that CPKC name is just temporary. After a year or two it will go back to just being called Canadian Pacific.
Probably just on paper for the new parent holding company.
Like how Google was re-organized into Alphabet.
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CSSHEGEWISCH I would opine that the Canadian Pacific brand is powerful since it was a truly multi-modal company as mentioned above. For Canadians, it showed the flag to the rest of the world through its ships and planes.
"World's Greatest Travel System" and "Canadian Pacific Spans The World" used to be their slogans. The company magazine was called "Spanner" in reference to the second one.
Over on CN the former GTP route to Prince Rupert is officially known as the BC North line, but it is still nicknamed the 'Trunk Line' and trains or crews on it out of Jasper may be referred to as 'Trunkers'.
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cv_acrProbably just on paper for the new parent holding company.
Remember all of the legends about how "CSX" came to be...
CP's maps have always been well done. I have one from 1992 that shows all of the United States and Canada. It's a good size and isn't too hard to fold back up. Not like NS's maps which are stupidly massive and are hard to fold back up.
CP's North America Network Map from 2020 is great for looking at all the Class I rail lines: https://www.cpr.ca/en/choose-rail-site/Documents/cp-network-map-2020.pdf
In addition CP posts maps of just their system every year as a part of their "Three Year Plan" they submit to Transport Canada. Here is the most recent one: https://www.cpr.ca/en/about-cp-site/Documents/Schedule%20B%203-Yr%20Plan%2023.11.2022%20%281%29.pdf
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