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Why are dead Trains threads coming back to life
Posted by roundstick3@gmail.com on Sunday, May 1, 2022 7:31 AM

Just saw a couple of threads from 2013 and even older like the one on the New York Westchester and Boston WTHDevil

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, May 1, 2022 7:48 AM

Because individuals post to them.  Duh!

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, May 1, 2022 7:56 AM

Because like Count Dracula, "You can't keep a good man down!"  

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Posted by kgbw49 on Sunday, May 1, 2022 8:09 AM

Perhaps someday this thread will come back. Who knows?

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, May 1, 2022 12:23 PM

Occasionally people will go exploring back through the threads, or perhaps do a search and the search engine pops up with one of those old threads.  

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Posted by Leo_Ames on Sunday, May 1, 2022 12:49 PM

When done for a good reason, I've never understood why it's frowned upon at some forums.

For an example of what I personally deem a good reason, say that we have an old thread about saving a particular historic locomotive and years later that hope finally has came to fruition. Fully acceptable in my book to bump that old thread with the good news about the locomotive finding a good home in preservation. 

When you get some idiot bumping a 20 year old thread just to respond that they don't have an answer for the question asked by the thread creator, it's obviously not a good reason. But I can't say that I've ever noticed that type of problem around here.

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:14 PM

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threads from 2013 and even older like the one on the New York Westchester and Boston WTH

Railroading has a glorious past. Sometimes hashing over old subjects is more interesting that current ones.  And every once in a while, you can hit the lottery.  From time to time software updates will unlock topics that were previously locked, opening a whole new realm of possibilities. Laugh

Sometimes just listening to some members loathing  "how did this old zombie come back to life?" is worth the price of admission, all by itself. 

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:23 PM

And sometimes old topics take on new relevance.

For example,  suppose 12-15 years ago you made an observation about railroads deferring maintenance so that they could instead divert the money to geedy stockholders. And some of the "old heads" chastised you, insisting that could never happen, because trains would be coming off the rails.

Then fast forward and you see the same old heads grousing about PSR and  misguided fiscal priority....some stories you just couldn't write any better, even if you were Bernie Taupin. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:27 PM

That's setting the bar low. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:31 PM

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Just saw a couple of threads from 2013 and even older like the one on the New York Westchester and Boston WTHDevil

 

1. You are new here. Why do you object to old threads? 

2.  Perhaps the topics in old threads are more interesting than some current ones?

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Posted by zugmann on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:32 PM

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charlie hebdo
1. You are new here. Why do you object to old threads? 

"New".  Using that term very loosely. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:38 PM

zugmann
That's setting the bar low.

I'm not real big on fiction, my first thought was to say "Ian Fleming" but was concerned I might get a "who"? in response

 edit: (I  subsequently changed it, just for you. )

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Sunday, May 1, 2022 1:54 PM

Maybe Dr Frankenstein has become a railfan?

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Sunday, May 1, 2022 9:54 PM

   I've never made a serious study on this, but I get the impression that old threads frequently are awakened by fairly new members.  My guess is that they are more likely to explore back through time while old-timers tend to have a lot of that history stored away in the back of their minds and are more involved in recent topics.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Sunday, May 1, 2022 10:23 PM

Convicted One

For example,  suppose 12-15 years ago you made an observation about railroads deferring maintenance so that they could instead divert the money to geedy stockholders.

You wouldn't be thinking of TCIF (sp?) and the CSX by any chance???? ISTR that the attempted takeover was thwarted by the beginnings of the 2008 financial brouhaha, with a couple members stating (early 2008) that OPM (other people's money)was becoming scarce.

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, May 2, 2022 12:56 AM

I always revive old  threads when I can.  If it is somebody else's old thred, it keeps me from thinking I have a new idea, when it's been said and done already.  If it's my old thread, it keeps me from just repeating myself.  A thread isn't "dead" if it's still available for reading.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, May 2, 2022 7:28 AM

 Might be a similar exercise that drives people to go to cemetaries, and look for epitapaths that are funny, sad or truthful?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, May 2, 2022 8:02 AM
Ye-gads! It's worse than we thought! In the last 10 weeks there have been 4 old posts resurrected on this forum alone! One of them, about thin flanges is only a year old, and has been on-and-off active for that year. Another is the Saluda Grade reopening thread that lives on like a zombie and never really dies. If we discount those 2, that leaves us with 2 resurrected threads over 10 weeks. If this keeps up for a year, we could have 10-11 old threads blotting out all the new and exciting threads. Oh My! Mischief

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Monday, May 2, 2022 8:49 AM

Murphy, Might I suggest that if they offend you and you don't want to read them, you just pass them by?

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Posted by Convicted One on Monday, May 2, 2022 8:58 AM

Erik_Mag
You wouldn't be thinking of TCIF (sp?) and the CSX by any chance???? ISTR that the attempted takeover was thwarted by the beginnings of the 2008 financial brouhaha, with a couple members stating (early 2008) that OPM (other people's money)was becoming scarce.

I won't say that the discussion(s) did not involve Children's,  at least tangentially. But what I'm thinking of was spawned in the "CSX Paint Your Bridge" era ....but then grew to include neglect of infrastructure in general, as well as rationalization of under utilized assets.......as part of a grander overall strategy to prioritize dividends over maintenance expenditures.

The counter argument was a "why would they do that? it would be like shooting themselves in the foot".   So 15 years later, how many toes do we have left? Clown

 

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Posted by Backshop on Monday, May 2, 2022 9:02 AM

BEAUSABRE

Murphy, Might I suggest that if they offend you and you don't want to read them, you just pass them by?

 

I believe that he was being sarcastic.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, May 2, 2022 9:28 AM

Backshop

 

 
BEAUSABRE

Murphy, Might I suggest that if they offend you and you don't want to read them, you just pass them by?

 

 

 

I believe that he was being sarcastic.

 

 

Yes Sorry if that wasn't clear. Clown

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, May 2, 2022 1:29 PM

daveklepper
I always revive old  threads when I can.

   After my comment last night about many old thread revivals coming from newer members, I got a kick out of seeing a couple of your entries in old threads in the passenger and transit forums.  I didn't realize you were such a young kid.  (If you weren't, then you would be upsetting my observation.)

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, May 2, 2022 2:19 PM

zugmann

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charlie hebdo
1. You are new here. Why do you object to old threads? 

"New".  Using that term very loosely. 

 

New in member name only, same old stuff.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, May 2, 2022 2:58 PM

New users often come to the Forums via a Google search for their particular topic of interest, rather than the Forum portal. When they find a thread on their topic, they don't look at how old it is before they reply.

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, May 2, 2022 9:21 PM

That make sense. Reminds me of the Kalmbach pitch for back issues, something along the lines that every issue is new until you read it.

FWIW, I don't have any problem with old threads coming back to life, as they can be quite a bit of fun starting up again.

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 3:34 AM

My 'take' on this is that there are two broad kinds of necro thread.  Some are just ignorant revivals of things discussed and finished; some are open-ended continuations of a particular informational topic or question.  It's usually pretty obvious which is which.  I encouraged people (in the specialized context of the things I moderated) to note up front, if they revived an older thread, that they had done so, and explain briefly why they did instead of starting a new and specific one.

Blanket bans on reviving threads once they reach a certain age or length sometimes makes sense, in a sort of expedient way.  If the last-post-first option ceases to work, as it has for example in the deflicted remains of the PM system here, it rapidly becomes tedious to have to work through a sea of old posts to get to the latest one; it becomes a particular horror when multiple posters on e-mail reflectors haven't turned off thread quoting and get into some chatty exchange of pointless one-line remarks or Netiquette comments... with the whole damn post history appended.  Digests in particular can become ordeals...

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 8:10 AM

A couple of examples of threads that have an older original post, may go quiet for a while, and then come back as new information comes to light are:

Sunset Route Two-Tracking Updates thread

Updates On Multi-Tracking The Two BNSF Transcons thread

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 9:34 AM

samfp1943
 Might be a similar exercise that drives people to go to cemetaries, and look for epitapaths that are funny, sad or truthful?

Like this 18th Century classic?

"Remember me as you pass by, as you are now so once was I.

"As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare for death and follow me."

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 10:13 AM

I believe that the point raised by Mr Otte was quite valid.

To the uninitiated coming here through a google search,  the newbie likely doesn't know (nor care)  that  one of our more hard bolied members  believes he had the last word on (whatever)  subject. 

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