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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:47 PM

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Ya know, I just may go looking for a long dead thread to resurrect just for the sheer fun of it!  Smile, Wink & Grin

"Long Dead Thread."  Sounds like a good name for a rock band, don't ya think?

 

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Posted by Convicted One on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:31 PM

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Some lurkers have missed a lot over the last 10 years. sigh

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 7:30 PM

Ya know, I just may go looking for a long dead thread to resurrect just for the sheer fun of it!  Smile, Wink & Grin

"Long Dead Thread."  Sounds like a good name for a rock band, don't ya think?

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 6:56 PM

Some lurkers have

missed a lot over the last 10 years. sigh

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Posted by zugmann on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 6:51 PM

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They spontaneously come back to life sometimes because of lurkers....

Well, there is an election coming up.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by pennytrains on Wednesday, May 11, 2022 5:50 PM

They spontaneously come back to life sometimes because of lurkers....Whistling

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, May 7, 2022 10:43 AM

In a perfect example, I just brought back a 15 year old thread that came up when I "Googled" my old CB radio call sign.  Who knew such a search would brng up a thread on the Trains forum?

A lot has changed in that world in 15 years, including the fact that I am now an amateur radio operator - something that was not a factor at the time.

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Posted by MidlandMike on Friday, May 6, 2022 9:07 PM

Who says a thread is dead, unless the moderator locks it.  Otherwise it is in a state of suspended animation.

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, May 6, 2022 11:57 AM

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Ahhhh? So you're saying that back in the day, there was a "competition" of sorts, members wanting to keep "their" thread on the front page, and reviving old threads was crowding their pet threads out of the limelight? Yeah, I can see where that would be a possible hot spot.

Well actually that was not my point, but it is valid.  My point was just to give an idea of how the constant surge of new posts was frantically driving everything forward.  And with that pace, there was less worry about keeping a thread on page one.  This was because people were used to the need to check the past 2-4 pages every day, so they did not miss something.  So people kept up with the pace and there was not the same sense of a thread going over the cliff.  There was no cliff.  
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Posted by Convicted One on Friday, May 6, 2022 11:32 AM

Ahhhh? So you're saying that back in the day, there was a "competition" of sorts, members wanting to keep "their" thread on the front page, and reviving old threads was crowding their pet threads out of the limelight? Yeah, I can see where that would be a possible hot spot.

I participate in a sports related forum where an opposite dynamic seems to rule the day.  There thay have this obsession with "master threads" where they want various topics concentrated.

 Such as one thread where all off season topics are supposed to go, one thread for all trades, one thread for all discussion about the sport concerning any team other than the home team...stuff like that. And one thread each day devoted that that particular game...a "game day" thread...

And let some poor new guy join and start a generic "good time" thread,   everyone jumps all over him for non-adherence.

 And I was really dumbfounded, asking "man, the discussion forum format is dying all over the internet, and yet you want to beat up this poor guy just for making a contribution?

And they did.   Seems that many of the "old guard" at that forum participate mostly with smart phones, and their emphasis is in minimizing "thumb scroll"... i guess that having to scroll past "unimportant" threads was too much work for some of them? 

Perhaps for certain individuals there is some vicarious thrill in forcing EVERYONE to use THEIR internet, THEIR way?  Black Eye

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, May 6, 2022 9:58 AM

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someone else might or might not want to see.

 

I suspect that is really the heart of many of the objections.  Certain someones believing they had the last word, and hoped their prior contribution was an epitaph....

 

I agree, objecting to people reviving old threads is in need of an explanation because nobody is required to read every thread that shows up.  So why should it be such a hot button?
 
When I joined in 2005, there seemed to be a lot more new thread generation than there is today.  I would estimate that there was 4-8 times more new threads per day back then than there are now. 
 
Back then, new threads would sometimes slide off of Page 1 in the first day because of the speed of new thread origination.  Maybe the reason why people are reviving old threads is to make up for the slowdown in new thread generation. 
 
I remember when I started subscribing to Trains, it seemed like a long wait for the next issue.  So I sometimes ordered 6-12 back issues to keep things moving. 
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Posted by Convicted One on Friday, May 6, 2022 9:47 AM

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someone else might or might not want to see.

I suspect that is really the heart of many of the objections.  Certain someones believing they had the last word, and hoped their prior contribution was an epitaph....

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Posted by Fred M Cain on Friday, May 6, 2022 9:23 AM

I like to revive old threads for two reasons.

One is when I discover a thread of interest only way after the fact.  I might discover a thread that's ten year old on a subject that I find interesting and then ask if anyone has any new information on it.

 

The other reason I will revive an old thread is when *I* find some new information that I think someone else might or might not want to see.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, May 5, 2022 8:22 PM

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The bigger question - Why do threads die?

I'm with Flintlock - eventually there just isn't anything else to discuss on the topic.  

Once you get past the predecessor roads, what is there to discuss about the color of Conrail locos, f'rinstance?

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Posted by Lithonia Operator on Thursday, May 5, 2022 4:42 PM

I have no problem with old threads coming back. It might be something interesting that I missed the first time around.

Still in training.


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Posted by Flintlock76 on Wednesday, May 4, 2022 4:41 PM

BaltACD
The bigger question - Why do threads die?

Well, eventually they DO get to the point of "What more is there to be said?"

I think it is kind of fun when one comes zipping out of the past though, like the thread on the NYW&B, and finds a new life.

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Posted by Fr.Al on Wednesday, May 4, 2022 4:24 PM

I am one of the guilty ones, since I revived a thread about the Baldwin and Lima Center -Cab transfer units. It does seem like an interesting chapter in early diesel development.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:05 PM

BaltACD

 

 
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It's a bit of a tautology, but if a thread has come back to life, it's not dead

 

The bigger question - Why do threads die?

 

To be fair, some threads start to smell bad, like they've died. Mischief

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, May 4, 2022 2:32 PM

BEAUSABRE
It's a bit of a tautology, but if a thread has come back to life, it's not dead

The bigger question - Why do threads die?

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 9:30 PM

It's a bit of a tautology, but if a thread has come back to life, it's not dead

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Posted by Convicted One on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 10:13 AM

I believe that the point raised by Mr Otte was quite valid.

To the uninitiated coming here through a google search,  the newbie likely doesn't know (nor care)  that  one of our more hard bolied members  believes he had the last word on (whatever)  subject. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 9:34 AM

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 Might be a similar exercise that drives people to go to cemetaries, and look for epitapaths that are funny, sad or truthful?

Like this 18th Century classic?

"Remember me as you pass by, as you are now so once was I.

"As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare for death and follow me."

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Posted by kgbw49 on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 8:10 AM

A couple of examples of threads that have an older original post, may go quiet for a while, and then come back as new information comes to light are:

Sunset Route Two-Tracking Updates thread

Updates On Multi-Tracking The Two BNSF Transcons thread

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, May 3, 2022 3:34 AM

My 'take' on this is that there are two broad kinds of necro thread.  Some are just ignorant revivals of things discussed and finished; some are open-ended continuations of a particular informational topic or question.  It's usually pretty obvious which is which.  I encouraged people (in the specialized context of the things I moderated) to note up front, if they revived an older thread, that they had done so, and explain briefly why they did instead of starting a new and specific one.

Blanket bans on reviving threads once they reach a certain age or length sometimes makes sense, in a sort of expedient way.  If the last-post-first option ceases to work, as it has for example in the deflicted remains of the PM system here, it rapidly becomes tedious to have to work through a sea of old posts to get to the latest one; it becomes a particular horror when multiple posters on e-mail reflectors haven't turned off thread quoting and get into some chatty exchange of pointless one-line remarks or Netiquette comments... with the whole damn post history appended.  Digests in particular can become ordeals...

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, May 2, 2022 9:21 PM

That make sense. Reminds me of the Kalmbach pitch for back issues, something along the lines that every issue is new until you read it.

FWIW, I don't have any problem with old threads coming back to life, as they can be quite a bit of fun starting up again.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Monday, May 2, 2022 2:58 PM

New users often come to the Forums via a Google search for their particular topic of interest, rather than the Forum portal. When they find a thread on their topic, they don't look at how old it is before they reply.

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Posted by charlie hebdo on Monday, May 2, 2022 2:19 PM

zugmann

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charlie hebdo
1. You are new here. Why do you object to old threads? 

"New".  Using that term very loosely. 

 

New in member name only, same old stuff.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, May 2, 2022 1:29 PM

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I always revive old  threads when I can.

   After my comment last night about many old thread revivals coming from newer members, I got a kick out of seeing a couple of your entries in old threads in the passenger and transit forums.  I didn't realize you were such a young kid.  (If you weren't, then you would be upsetting my observation.)

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, May 2, 2022 9:28 AM

Backshop

 

 
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Murphy, Might I suggest that if they offend you and you don't want to read them, you just pass them by?

 

 

 

I believe that he was being sarcastic.

 

 

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