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BNSF Unions poll members for potential Strike.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, January 28, 2022 2:33 PM

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That's a start, but Amazon needs to "Hunterize" the process.  If employees aren't quitting at a record pace, then you aren't pressing them hard enough.  Push them until something breaks.  Productivity at all costs.  Make your employees long for the cold comfort of the grave - https://dilbert.com/strip/2008-02-03  

Who will be the railroader's Spartacus and lead the railroaders slave revolt?

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Posted by ns145 on Friday, January 28, 2022 3:32 PM

BaltACD

 

 
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rdamon

That's a start, but Amazon needs to "Hunterize" the process.  If employees aren't quitting at a record pace, then you aren't pressing them hard enough.  Push them until something breaks.  Productivity at all costs.  Make your employees long for the cold comfort of the grave - https://dilbert.com/strip/2008-02-03  

 

Who will be the railroader's Spartacus and lead the railroaders slave revolt?

 

Instead of striking, a few thousand BNSF employee should use up their all their points at the same time and get simultaneous suspensions.  Bet that would get BNSF's attention real quick.  So ironic that BNSF threatens suspensions to deal with employees not being available for work enough.  If I were an evil corporate type I'd think of a way to force them to work more as a form of punishment.  Good thing that I am neither evil nor a corporate type.

Believing in capitalism and the free market, I am inclined to say that BNSF isn't paying their employees enough money to compensate them properly for the poor working conditions that they must endure.  The punitive attendance schemes devised by the Class I's betray the fact that the rail labor market is not a free one.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Friday, January 28, 2022 10:58 PM

It's been said that a seniority district on the southern portion of UP had an overwhelming number of people run afoul of the policy.  That's why they revised it somewhat.

The attendence policy is a quality of life issue, not necessarily a rest and fatigue issue.  It's about either working or being tied to your phone waiting to be called to work.  Not being able to schedule anything in advance with any certainty that you will be able to attend. 

Yes, we have paid days off in lieu of paid holidays for road assignments.  Yes, we have vacation and can convert some weeks to single days, to be used like the paid leave.  However, the company can deny the use of those single days if manpower is tight.  And it's almost always tight. 

The policies are designed to have the absolute fewest number of active employees.  However, having the fewest people on a board sometimes comes back to bite them.  The people start working too much and then have to have 48/72 hours off.  Which leads to more people working too much and also having to take the Federal Requirement.  And that Federal Required time off rarely falls when you need it for something specific.

Although rail labor has lost some ground compared to previous generations of railroaders, we still are at the top of wages for blue collar industries.  I believe that is part of the reason senior (and some not so senior) railroad management treat their field workers the way they do.

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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, January 29, 2022 5:34 AM

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Instead of striking, a few thousand BNSF employee should use up their all their points at the same time and get simultaneous suspensions.

Sounds great in theory,  but who will go first? 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by ns145 on Sunday, January 30, 2022 10:55 AM

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Instead of striking, a few thousand BNSF employee should use up their all their points at the same time and get simultaneous suspensions.

 

Sounds great in theory,  but who will go first? 

 

Yep, that's the rub. The fix is in.  And, without the power to conduct effective strikes that could potentially shutdown the entire US rail network, I don't see how the rail labor unions can get themselves out of it.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Sunday, January 30, 2022 8:00 PM

Well for what it is worth.   Given the railroad employee descriptions of the attendence policy (policies)...........I think they are pretty crappy and if it were me I would leave the field entirely, though I know that is not a favorable option for someone that has invested a lot in years and has seniority built up.

First of all understood it is optional for the employer to pay but I feel strongly FMLA should be paid time off at full pay and you should not be penalized for taking it in anyway.   It is where I work.    It's not a boat load of money because of the other requirements of FMLA it's not easy to commit Fraud here either.   That is just the employer being a cheap skate.

Second, you should be able to make appointments for personal items without the job getting in the way (thats really crappy).....I could do that in the military for the most part unless we were deploying.    I cannot believe the management structure of the railroad industry is such they feel a need to intrude here.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Monday, January 31, 2022 12:15 PM

Laying off using FMLA is not subject to penalty points for attendence policies.  It's a Federal law and the railroads hate it. 

The major railroads answer to Wall Street.  They want low operating ratios (because it's an easy number to bandy about) and high stock prices.  Cutting yourself to prosperity is, in their view, the way to go.  When they're very choosy on new business they pick up, cutting is all that's left. 

Everytime I think they've run out of places to cut, they find some way to cut more.

Jeff    

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