zugmannNo they won't. They'll jsut whine and cry and hold out their hands for gov't welfare.
Uh-huh, the "Too big to fail" pitch.
Sorry, I'm a hard-a$$. As far as I'm concerned "too big to fail" mean too big to begin with!
While my sympathies more than go out to the affected employees, if a company's incompetently run it deserves to fail. And when it does, there'll be others out there waiting to pick up the pieces and put them to good use, if they're worth picking up, trust me.
BaltACDIt is only senseless if you are not High School or College football.
This whole football thing is trivial. I used it as an example of how trivial government regulation can get.
But, trivial or not, the government should not protect special interests at the expense of the peoples' freedom. No matter how trivial that particular freedom may seem.
As I said, absent government interference.
greyhoundsWell, they'll get there as soon as possible. Absent government interference.
No they won't. They'll jsut whine and cry and hold out their hands for gov't welfare.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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greyhoundsWe've had quite a jolt from COVID and it's going to take some time, but we'll get back to normal.
Old cowboy saying:
"There's bound to be a lot of tore-up ground where a herd's stampeded!"
A great saying that covers a lot of scenarios.
greyhounds I agree that it's not the greatest concern in the world. I just used it as an example of how far they'll go with senseless regulation.
I agree that it's not the greatest concern in the world. I just used it as an example of how far they'll go with senseless regulation.
It is only senseless if you are not High School or College football.
HS and College staked out their claims to Friday and Saturday respectively well over a half century ago. In fact, when they staked their claims professional football was not much of a fan draw on any day anyplace. It wasn't until the widespread distribution of TV and the captivating 'Greatest Game Ever Played' - the 1958 NFL Championship game between the Baltimore Colts and New York Giants that end in a 'sudden death' overtime touchdown by Alan Amache of the Colts that the NFL actaually gained a national audience. It wasn't until 1962 that the NFL got a national TV contract; following the then rival AFL that got a $8.5M for 5 years contract in 1960.
Senseless depends upon which side of a regulation you inhabit.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
zugmann But, I do know Private companies can't seem to, either.
Well, they'll get there as soon as possible. Absent government interference.
Supply and demand will balance. Unless the government sticks its nose in.
We've had quite a jolt from COVID and it's going to take some time, but we'll get back to normal. I'll agree that the government had a role in funding the vaccine, but this is an economic issue, not a health issue.
Shadow the Cats owner The Class 1 railroads also better start hiring in more and BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES. They are trying to blame everyone else for their lack of service. That missing load of resins my boss had shipped 3 months ago out of Houston on the UP for interchange to the BNSF in Kansas City for delivery to us here. We are still waiting for the freaking thing someone else decided that it needed to get this be returned to Houston and restart the freaking trip. It was less than 30 miles from Kansas city when that happened. Then when it reached Houston the freaking thing was lost all AEI information is gone. We can not trace it anymore.
The Class 1 railroads also better start hiring in more and BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES. They are trying to blame everyone else for their lack of service. That missing load of resins my boss had shipped 3 months ago out of Houston on the UP for interchange to the BNSF in Kansas City for delivery to us here. We are still waiting for the freaking thing someone else decided that it needed to get this be returned to Houston and restart the freaking trip. It was less than 30 miles from Kansas city when that happened. Then when it reached Houston the freaking thing was lost all AEI information is gone. We can not trace it anymore.
Have you or the shipper filed a claim with UP for the value of the product and any freight that was paid? Sometimes having a loss claim opened helps a railroad focus a bit more closely on locating the missing car.
CW
greyhoundsBut, I do know there is no constructive role for the government to play in this situation. They can't create drivers, chassis, or warehouse space by passing a law or regulation.
Private companies can't seem to, either.
Paul MilenkovicLocal TV stations showing high school football on Friday night, network television broadcasting college football on Saturday, pro football taking place mainly on Sunday, with "headline" games taking place Monday Night and the pre-season also having Thursday night games, this system appears to have evolved by informal agreement between the parties involved, with the roll of the Federal government to let this be rather than invoke anti-trust rules to prevent it?
It's not an informal agreement. It's a Federal law. The NFL can't legally play games on Friday or Saturday in the fall.
zugmannSo, when is it going to get worked out? Not doing a great job so far. But hey, keep blaming the gov't bogeymen hiding under the bed. -1
I didn't "Blame" the government or anyone else. And I cannot provide a timeline for a return to normal.
But, I do know there is no constructive role for the government to play in this situation. They can't create drivers, chassis, or warehouse space by passing a law or regulation.
greyhoundsAnd it will get worked out faster and better if the government just stays out of the way.
So, when is it going to get worked out? Not doing a great job so far. But hey, keep blaming the gov't bogeymen hiding under the bed. -1
greyhounds I see the phrase “Class One Rails blame shippers, receivers and truckers” as being way, way to strong and being used pejoratively by people who have a very intense left-wing inclination to have the government control more of everything. The fact that the politicians tend to screw things up big time just doesn’t make a dent in their non-thinking. -1 Anyway, I don’t see the railroads as “Blaming.” I see them as explaining things as they are. A standard practice, which has worked well for over a century, is for the rail carrier to bring the freight in to a rail terminal and then notify the freight receiver: “Hey, it’s here. Come and get it.” The receiver then dispatches a teamster/driver to go get the freight. When the receiver fails to do that, a problem develops because the railroad must store the freight until the receiver gets the pick-up done. To prevent their terminals from being used as a free warehouse by receivers the railroads begin charging for the storage after a certain amount of “Free Time.” (“Free Time” was basically two days when I was working on the railroad.) The charge does escalate. The 1st couple extra days are at a nominal charge, then it increases over time with the storage days becoming progressively more expensive. This does make sense because the terminals do not have unlimited storage capacity to be used as free warehouse space by the freight receivers. A lot of the receivers are getting charged significant sums these days because they’re not picking up their freight. They’ve gone running to the government like a child runs to his/her mother. The failure is not the railroad’s fault. Pointing that fact out is not “Blaming” someone else. It’s explaining the situation properly. Supply chains all over the world are disrupted. There is no constructive action the government can take to change that. They can’t enact a container chassis or a truck driver. This will get worked out. And it will get worked out faster and better if the government just stays out of the way. -1 The politicians will tell us what football game we can watch if we let them. And we do let them. If you’ve ever wondered why the NFL doesn’t play regular season games on Friday nights or Saturdays during the fall, it’s because the government has decided we must watch high school and college football on those days. If we want to watch football at all.
I agree with much of what you are saying apart from your concerns about football broadcasts.
Local TV stations showing high school football on Friday night, network television broadcasting college football on Saturday, pro football taking place mainly on Sunday, with "headline" games taking place Monday Night and the pre-season also having Thursday night games, this system appears to have evolved by informal agreement between the parties involved, with the roll of the Federal government to let this be rather than invoke anti-trust rules to prevent it?
With all of the troubles happening in the world and all of the reasons, causes and people one could blame, I think that the scheduling of football is pretty much OK. For now.
If GM "killed the electric car", what am I doing standing next to an EV-1, a half a block from the WSOR tracks?
PsychotAdding to their problems is the fact that Xi made himself president for life and is now free to pursue a nationalist, beggar-thy-neighbor foreign policy that's going to come back to bite China in the long run.
What you say may very well be true, but the "long run" might be very long indeed. It took the Soviet Union over 70 years to collapse.
I doubt many of us on this Forum will live long enough to see the CCP collapse, but stranger things have happened.
Flintlock76 Juniata Man As Ulrich noted earlier, all of us bear some responsibility because we expect lower prices. This is at least somewhat to blame for our increasing reliance on Asia as our primary sourcing point over the past decade. Keep in mind a lot of us never got the choice to begin with. When Chinese made products began showing up here I was VERY uneasy about the whole situation, just as I would have been uneasy about products showing up from Nazi Germany if I lived in the 1930's. I couldn't see the reason for sending money to a Communist dictatorship, for whatever reason, so I avoided buying Chinese made products for as long as I could, and then there was no avoiding it at all. After a while I (like many others) rationalized the situation and thought "Well, if you want them to stop being Commies the best way to do it is to turn them into capitalists. Making money is a lot more fun and rewarding than wearing cheap denim suits and screaming your head off waving copies of Mao's Little Red Book!" Turns out my initial unease was justified. As the old saying goes: "You can't teach an old dog new tricks, or get a leopard to change it's spots." What have the "wise heads" done to us?
Juniata Man As Ulrich noted earlier, all of us bear some responsibility because we expect lower prices. This is at least somewhat to blame for our increasing reliance on Asia as our primary sourcing point over the past decade.
Keep in mind a lot of us never got the choice to begin with.
When Chinese made products began showing up here I was VERY uneasy about the whole situation, just as I would have been uneasy about products showing up from Nazi Germany if I lived in the 1930's. I couldn't see the reason for sending money to a Communist dictatorship, for whatever reason, so I avoided buying Chinese made products for as long as I could, and then there was no avoiding it at all. After a while I (like many others) rationalized the situation and thought "Well, if you want them to stop being Commies the best way to do it is to turn them into capitalists. Making money is a lot more fun and rewarding than wearing cheap denim suits and screaming your head off waving copies of Mao's Little Red Book!"
Turns out my initial unease was justified. As the old saying goes:
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks, or get a leopard to change it's spots."
What have the "wise heads" done to us?
I don't buy that. The CCP will only be able to continue repressing freedoms as long as the country enjoys unprecedented economic growth. They've already picked the low-hanging economic fruit, and now they're facing demographic decline and the pressures of having to maintain prosperity by moving up the value chain.
Adding to their problems is the fact that Xi made himself president for life and is now free to pursue a nationalist, beggar-thy-neighbor foreign policy that's going to come back to bite China in the long run. One of the CCP's unarguable strengths was that it installed new, technocratic leadership every 5 years. That's now gone.
Harvest Gold, Avocado Green, Burnt Orange or (fortunately no descriptor) Brown?
Rick
rixflix aka Captain Video. Blessed be Jean Shepherd and all His works!!! Hooray for 1939, the all time movie year!!! I took that ride on the Reading but my Baby caught the Katy and left me a mule to ride.
Gramp When it comes to needing washer/dryer, check out Speed Queen. Still made in Ripon, Wisconsin and built to last. Even have models that are light on the electronic controls. Work well.
When it comes to needing washer/dryer, check out Speed Queen. Still made in Ripon, Wisconsin and built to last. Even have models that are light on the electronic controls. Work well.
More repair prone, chew up fabric and more expensive.
Ulrich zugmann Ulrich Well, I have some good news for you.. some fridges out there now will last up to three years before a major repair comes along. I'll hang on to my 15+ year old one for now. I would too.. my parents got rid of their 1967 fridge in 2009.
zugmann Ulrich Well, I have some good news for you.. some fridges out there now will last up to three years before a major repair comes along. I'll hang on to my 15+ year old one for now.
Ulrich Well, I have some good news for you.. some fridges out there now will last up to three years before a major repair comes along.
I'll hang on to my 15+ year old one for now.
I would too.. my parents got rid of their 1967 fridge in 2009.
When she passed away in 1973, my grandmother's 1939 GE refrigerator and 1946 International Harvester freezer were still going strong. My cousin, who bought the house from my grandmother's estate, used both of them for several years afterward. When present-day appliances beat those records, I'll be impressed.
Ulrich Murphy Siding zugmann Ulrich Volumes seem to be dropping off now.. that should help free up some capacity. Better lay off some people! It's the American way. "Gentlemen- we've had a record year. To celebrate, let's fire some people". Everyone around here is hiring..
Murphy Siding zugmann Ulrich Volumes seem to be dropping off now.. that should help free up some capacity. Better lay off some people! It's the American way. "Gentlemen- we've had a record year. To celebrate, let's fire some people".
zugmann Ulrich Volumes seem to be dropping off now.. that should help free up some capacity. Better lay off some people!
Ulrich Volumes seem to be dropping off now.. that should help free up some capacity.
Better lay off some people!
It's the American way. "Gentlemen- we've had a record year. To celebrate, let's fire some people".
Everyone around here is hiring..
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
zugmann Ulrich Everyone around here is hiring.. Same here. They just don't want to pay, or treat their employees like people.
Ulrich Everyone around here is hiring..
Same here. They just don't want to pay, or treat their employees like people.
True of some and not for others.
UlrichEveryone around here is hiring..
Intermodal Ramps have a designed throughput capacity. Once in gating of boxes exceeds the flow of out gated boxes capacity drys up. IM ramps are not designed for long term storage.
Also the ever so exciting chassis problem. Lack of mechanics has stressed the chassis supply at the moment. Most of the RR's don't have their own chassis pools. Typically a chassis pool such as Flexi-Van or Direct Chassis Link handle non assest Intermodal Marketing Companies. JB Hunt and Schneider lacks these issues as they are what's called assest based providers. Which brings their own chassis to flip boxes.
However a problem the RR's need to fix is repositioning of boxes in their terminals which can require multiple moves. Segregation between boxes; loads, empties, priority, and freetime would create more capacity in terminals.
Current labor issues are the real capacity eater. Until the gov't cuts off handouts. I don't expect the situation to change..
My '65 Sears refrigerator in the basement was still working when I sold my house last year. Ice maker didn't work and had replaced defrost timer. Otherwise, it didn't owe me a dime.
My '65 Sears refrigerator in the basement was still working when I sold my house last year. Ice maker didn't work and had replaced defrost timer. Fifty years old. Otherwise, it didn't owe me a dime.
Flintlock76When Chinese made products began showing up here I was VERY uneasy about the whole situation,
I'm with you,..but I don't think my thought process advanced to the point of politics. I just didn't like the shoddy quality.
I've always been more prone to buying quality up front, treating it with care, and using it for 40 years, as opposed to buying the same junk replacements every few years. I believe it was the 1990s where junk seemed to overwhelm their quality counterparts on many store shelves. And I really hated it.
Ulrich zugmann Juniata Man What I think carries more responsibility however, is companies looking to reduce costs more from the perspective of improving earnings than providing lower prices. I would like products that last more than 6 months. I'm sure I'm far from being the only one. Well, I have some good news for you.. some fridges out there now will last up to three years before a major repair comes along.
zugmann Juniata Man What I think carries more responsibility however, is companies looking to reduce costs more from the perspective of improving earnings than providing lower prices. I would like products that last more than 6 months. I'm sure I'm far from being the only one.
Juniata Man What I think carries more responsibility however, is companies looking to reduce costs more from the perspective of improving earnings than providing lower prices.
I would like products that last more than 6 months. I'm sure I'm far from being the only one.
Well, I have some good news for you.. some fridges out there now will last up to three years before a major repair comes along.
I still have the refrigerator that was in the house when I bought it in 1990. From it, and the rest of the kitchen appliances with their 1960's-70's colors the frig might be from the late 60's. While it is a manual defrost and has a minuscule freezer compartment - it just keeps on keeping on.
I bought my Condo in Jacksonville in 1998 and have had to put three different refrigerators in it since then.
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