SeeYou190I doubt the caboose has much offensive potential at all.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/d1/da/43/5a110157fdee67/US4896580.pdf
but, as you might expect, even easily man- or drone-portable PGM could easily toast it within seconds...
but, as you might expect, even easily man-portable PGM could easily toast it within seconds...
I doubt the caboose has much offensive potential at all.
Much more effective, if fighting capacity was a goal, would be a heavily armoured short open topped fighting platform with several mortar tubes... but even that is silly.
All offensive support will be from the helicopter or two operating just over the horizon.
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OvermodNow where did I put that hand-crank mount for the twin 10-22s?
A surplus ammunition dealer we knew had one of those! He also had some .22 caliber tracer ammunition the military used for training purposes. He told us using that twin 10-22 hand-crank mount with the tracers was spectacular beyond belief!
54light15 he asked me to see about a .22 Thompson
If I remember correctly (It's been a lot of years) the .22 Thompson shot accurately but wasn't that reliable.
By the way, the drum mag for the .45 Thompson (the repro) wasn't that reliable either. Unless it came with the whole package we advised our customers not to bother with it.
BackshopThere's a company called Standard Manufacturing that makes a slightly scaled down version of the Thompson in .22LR.
One thing in common, though: at 50yd. even the worst group with .22LR was under 2".
Now where did I put that hand-crank mount for the twin 10-22s?
There's a company called Standard Manufacturing that makes a slightly scaled down version of the Thompson in .22LR. It's quite a bit more than $500, though.
My old man, when he was in the USAAF back in Big Two said that once you got used to a Thompson, you could shoot it one-handed like a pistol. I went to West Hurley Arms as he asked me to see about a .22 Thompson that he heard they were selling for about 500 bucks. Sadly, they were out of production and no longer available. Hell, even if they were semi-autos I would have loved to have used one! Got to be a hell of a lot of fun!
54light15 Thompson submachine guns? Still being made! https://www.auto-ordnance.com/ http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=224 -I've been to West Hurley Arms about 25 years ago- It's like walking into a firearms museum. They had more Lee-Enfield .303s than I ever saw in one place. A lot of them had Arabic phrases carved into the stock. A bunch of WW1 Mausers, too.
Thompson submachine guns? Still being made!
https://www.auto-ordnance.com/
http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=224 -I've been to West Hurley Arms about 25 years ago- It's like walking into a firearms museum. They had more Lee-Enfield .303s than I ever saw in one place. A lot of them had Arabic phrases carved into the stock. A bunch of WW1 Mausers, too.
Oh , those Auto-Ordnance/Numrich Thompsons! I remember them well! Not quite the same at the ones from the 20's, these were semi-auto only and with extended barrels. The finishes weren't quite as good as the old ones (the ones from the 20's were gorgeous, I've seen 'em!) but good enough.
But man, did those Auto-Ordnance Thompsons shoot! A fellow gun club member had one, it would put all the shots through ONE hole at 25 yards and darn near all through one hole at 50!
I never made it up to Numrich, but I did get to a place called Sarco, another surplus arms dealer. Very impressive showroom full of stuff, but they weren't giving it away, if you know what I mean. Expensive place.
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samfp1943Sort of interesting, that in 2021, the Government is going to build several(?) armored caboose(s)? After almost 40 or so years of saying they were not needed?
Once they switch-on the implanted vaccine chips, the importance for these cabooses will become more obvious.
SALfanOr the turret from an Abrams main battle tank with the quad .50's mounted concentrically around the big gun, in lieu of the cupola.
Seriously, PGM self-propelled munitions are a far better answer than a gun, even if you use your smoothbore gun tube to aim them initially and guide the initial launch. The problem is that you'd have to slew the tube to put it on target, whereupon the guy on the other side puts a TOW or something between caboose and turret...
Better to launch a swarm straight up, form to loiter, and engage targets as appropriate or designated. You can recover most of the expensive hardware afterward, too...
If you look at the work converging the autonomous-swarm and loyal-wingman programs you will begin to appreciate how the actual defense-in-depth will be best conducted, including recovery of nuclear material actually taken in, say, a massive chemical-weapons exploit. The actual force to be used will be carefully hidden until the actual time it comes to be used -- unlike nuclear weapons themselves there is little point in advertising 'deterrence' beyond casual dissuasion of the 'protected by Smith and Wesson' bumper-sticker kind.
Victrola1The coach was self contained with bunks, a refrigerator, stove, etc. The coach was reportedly also well stocked with firearms, including Thompson sub machine guns, and ammunition.
Well someone had fine taste in firearms! Aside from their size and weight Thompsons can still hold their own with any submachine gun around today.
Pretty impressive for a design that's 100 years old!
BackshopUnless they're running under caternary, I doubt there would be enough extra electricity to power any of those weapons.
And COIL and THEL are hypergolic.
Flintlock76 They haven't gone far enough. It'd be a LOT more impressive with some quad-.50's mounted fore and aft of the cupola! THAT'D make the bad guys think twice!
They haven't gone far enough.
It'd be a LOT more impressive with some quad-.50's mounted fore and aft of the cupola!
THAT'D make the bad guys think twice!
Or the turret from an Abrams main battle tank with the quad .50's mounted concentrically around the big gun, in lieu of the cupola.
After reading the entire "The Drive" link, I thought of the end of the movie "The Bridge on the River Kwai", where the doctor says simply, "Madness".
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Over 50 years ago nuclear weapons were made at the Iowa Army Ammunition plant at Middletown, IA, just west of Burlilngton. There was an old passenger coach with steel plates over the windows. The coach was parked by the ammunition plant roundhouse.
The coach would occasionally be seen tacked to the rear end of a short freight train passing through Burlington. Years later retired security personal at the ammuntion plant told of riding the coach when nuclear weapons were shipped by rail.
The coach was self contained with bunks, a refrigerator, stove, etc. The coach was reportedly also well stocked with firearms, including Thompson sub machine guns, and ammunition.
Unless they're running under caternary, I doubt there would be enough extra electricity to power any of those weapons.
BackshopQuad .50's are so World War Two. Nowadays, miniguns are where it's at.
Not that I have anything against chain guns. Or chain printers.
Quad .50's are so World War Two. Nowadays, miniguns are where it's at.
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Flintlock76 Now, where's the torpedo tubes?
Now, where's the torpedo tubes?
On the head end. They're going to resurrect some really old GE's to pull it. They don't have any electrical gear worthy of the name so they should be able to survive an EMP.
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If they tried a little harder they could make it look like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztkKJUQB4rU
zugmann tree68 Maybe they're built to pop up when needed... Hopefully they won't be under catenary at the time.
tree68 Maybe they're built to pop up when needed...
Hopefully they won't be under catenary at the time.
tree68Maybe they're built to pop up when needed...
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tree68 Flintlock76 It'd be a LOT more impressive with some quad-.50's mounted fore and aft of the cupola! Maybe they're built to pop up when needed...
Flintlock76 It'd be a LOT more impressive with some quad-.50's mounted fore and aft of the cupola!
Maybe they're built to pop up when needed...
Good point! Never thought of that!
Flintlock76It'd be a LOT more impressive with some quad-.50's mounted fore and aft of the cupola!
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