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Posted by Erik_Mag on Monday, April 27, 2020 4:57 PM

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A far 'funnier' one was a cartoon in a men's magazine I shall carefully leave nameless, decades ago.  An angry chicken says to a man "He may be Colonel Sanders to you, but he's Adolf Eichmann to me!"

Is nothing sacred??

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, April 27, 2020 3:14 PM

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Flintlock- I said that exact Eichmann line to a guy in a chicken processing plant a few years ago. He was howling with laughter.

 

A far 'funnier' one was a cartoon in a men's magazine I shall carefully leave nameless, decades ago.  An angry chicken says to a man "He may be Colonel Sanders to you, but he's Adolf Eichmann to me!"

Not at all funny to Shoah survivors.  Unless they have an appropriate sense of grim humor... which I've found most of them do.  And to me anything that helps us 'never forget' the real lessons is 'net positive'.

 

 

Yeah, that was it, that was the one I referenced.

And I only used to buy that magazine for the articles.  (Ahem.)  Whistling

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 27, 2020 1:07 PM

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Hey! Is that a new breed of chickens? All I ever knew let only the one lowest in the pecking order on the top roost with the one who outpecked all the others.Laugh

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, April 27, 2020 12:46 PM

54light15
Flintlock- I said that exact Eichmann line to a guy in a chicken processing plant a few years ago. He was howling with laughter.

A far 'funnier' one was a cartoon in a men's magazine I shall carefully leave nameless, decades ago.  An angry chicken says to a man "He may be Colonel Sanders to you, but he's Adolf Eichmann to me!"

Not at all funny to Shoah survivors.  Unless they have an appropriate sense of grim humor... which I've found most of them do.  And to me anything that helps us 'never forget' the real lessons is 'net positive'.

Wayne, that has to be the thing you were referencing.  I've been looking for the original for what has probably been over 40 years now.  I think it was Flynt, not Guccione ... more his speed, before he got shot.

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, April 27, 2020 12:34 PM

54light15

Flintlock- I said that exact Eichmann line to a guy in a chicken processing plant a few years ago. He was howling with laughter. I recall on 60 Minutes many years ago about an egg processing plant. How eggs are cracked by machine, yolks seperated by machine and so forth. It was quite fascinating and the punch line was, "A chicken is the means used for an egg to make another egg." 

 

Just so everyone knows, I pulled / altered an earlier post because I got some qualms as to whether it was in questionable taste or not.  If no-one minds or they're curious I can post it again.

The last thing I want to do is offend anyone here, even unintentionally.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, April 27, 2020 11:59 AM

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I loved it when Coffee Crisps made it south of the border, but it didn't last long.

Granted, I don't live far from the border, but, hey, we've got Timmy's!  There might still be hope!

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Monday, April 27, 2020 11:55 AM

Flintlock- I said that exact Eichmann line to a guy in a chicken processing plant a few years ago. He was howling with laughter. I recall on 60 Minutes many years ago about an egg processing plant. How eggs are cracked by machine, yolks seperated by machine and so forth. It was quite fascinating and the punch line was, "A chicken is the means used for an egg to make another egg." 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Monday, April 27, 2020 11:50 AM

Good one!  

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Posted by Miningman on Monday, April 27, 2020 11:23 AM

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:48 PM

You mean to tell me you can't get Coffee Crisp Stateside? Oh my God ! 

Will call the President and straighten this out.  

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Posted by MidlandMike on Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:53 PM

Miningman

 

I loved it when Coffee Crisps made it south of the border, but it didn't last long.

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:57 PM

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At the store this morning - there was virtually NO Campbells Soups available, at least not the 'regular' red lable variety.

Their soups, ready-meals,  some  Pace sauces, and V-8 and Tomato juices have been sold out here for a while too.

Makes me suspect there are some supply side issues involved there, as well.

Wouldn't surprise me to learn they had off-shored some of their production as well.

I KNOW THEY STILL HAVE PLANTS HERE, there is one just over the ohio line in Defiance , and I am sure that there are  many other posters here  who are aware of others.

That does nothing to keep me from suspecting that some items have been offshored.

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Posted by Gramp on Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:21 PM

Thank you for the peanut recommendations. I like to support these types of businesses, and will place an order. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:45 PM

54light15

If you like peanuts, buy Smithfield Tavern- seriously, once you have these you wan't buy Planter's anymore. I used to order them by the case lot and then found out my blood pressure was  through the roof, so no more peanuts for me. But I am tempted by the barbecue peanuts- Get thee behind me, Satan!  

https://www.smithfieldmarketplace.com/category/virginia-peanut-gifts 

 

Holy Mother of God, Smithfield peanuts!

They sell 'em in the local hardware store, they sell 'em in the supermarkets, (This IS Virgina after all!) and if I buy a can I can't stop eating them!  Think "Bet you can't eat just one!" applies to Lays potato chips?  No way brother, not if you bring Smithfield peanuts into the equation.  And they say crack's addictive!

I'll only buy a can every six months and won't touch them otherwise, I don't dare! 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:19 PM

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Anyway, Cambells has gone from selling me 4-6 cans per week  to zero, and the aisle space they occupied at my local grocer is half what it was 10 years ago, so I doubt that my perceptions are at all unique.

At the store this morning - there was virtually NO Campbells Soups available, at least not the 'regular' red lable variety.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 5:10 PM

If you like peanuts, buy Smithfield Tavern- seriously, once you have these you wan't buy Planter's anymore. I used to order them by the case lot and then found out my blood pressure was  through the roof, so no more peanuts for me. But I am tempted by the barbecue peanuts- Get thee behind me, Satan!  

https://www.smithfieldmarketplace.com/category/virginia-peanut-gifts 

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Posted by Juniata Man on Sunday, April 26, 2020 5:04 PM

For me, at least, the taste of Campbell's degraded about the time they went on the kick to reduce the amount of salt in their soups. My simple solution to that has been to add a shake or two of salt before heating it up and presto; it tastes like the "old" Campbell's to me again!

And I'll second the earlier comment about Marie Callender's chicken pot pies.  I got started on them last year when my wife had to be in Ohio for six months caring for my 94 year old father-in-law.  One of them is a meal and definitely heat them in the oven - not the microwave!

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:53 PM

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I was in my friend's Ram pickup and the dashboard almost looked like it belonged in the space shuttle.

 

My wife's Ford Expedition has so many things on it and we don't know half of them.  It's all we can do to get the radio working.  Of course, we're old people who think home computers are "new", even though they've been around for 40 years.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:46 PM

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I think a more apt name would be "Carrot soup with other vegetables and beef added"

I buy another brand (not the cheap stuff, either) that has that problem.  Mind you, I like carrots, but would prefer other "fillers."

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Posted by Gramp on Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:31 PM

I wonder how much these jacked-up electronics have increased the price of a car?  Some of them I highly value like a back up camera, but I think most are needless. Like a touchscreen on a 10 degree morning...gloves. And I do not want to prestart my car to make it toasty warm. 

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, April 26, 2020 3:14 PM

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And C-O, yeah I wish there was more beef in the "Vegetable Beef" too, but everyone's stingy with the beef,

I enjoy lima beans and celery in my vegetable beef soup too. But is seems Like Campbells has cut down on the green vegetables in their soups and really emphasizes the carrot and potato aspect.

I don't dislike carrots, but it just seems like their ratio has really grown in the mix these past several years.

I wasn't a big fan of them removing the mushrooms from the chunky chicken noodle either, but that change goes a few years further back.

Anyway, Cambells has gone from selling me 4-6 cans per week  to zero, and the aisle space they occupied at my local grocer is half what it was 10 years ago, so I doubt that my perceptions are at all unique.

 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:30 PM

You said it 54', I concur completely!  I can't figure it our either!  

Again, with toy trains (of all scales) I think the manufacturers are chasing after the "wirehead" market, but I've never seen any indication the "wireheads" are all that interested in toy trains.  The end result being long-time hobbyists like you and I are dragged along for the ride, being forced to pay for features we don't want and won't use.  It's one of the reasons I'm looking more and more at the Lionel post-wars, those  I can fix!  

And C-O, yeah I wish there was more beef in the "Vegetable Beef" too, but everyone's stingy with the beef, it's why I've never found a brand of canned chili I liked enough to buy twice.  As the old lady said, "Where's the beef?" 

I'll tell you something we tried recently that's very, very good, excellent in fact. "Marie Callender's Chicken Pot Pie."  Great mix of meat and vegetables with a nice tasty crust.  Just a few hints, get the large 15 ounce size, about $2.50 at the supermarket, and don't microwave it, follow the conventional oven directions.  I tried microwaving one once and it didn't come out as well.  Very filling too! 

Their turkey pot pie is very good as well.  I haven't tried the beef pot pie.

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:20 PM

Seems like the concentration of carrots in the mix has gone up considerably too.

I think a more apt name would be "Carrot soup with other vegetables and beef added"

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Posted by 54light15 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:18 PM

What goes for model trains now goes for almost everything. Does anyone really need a refrigerator with an internet connection? Does anyone really need a car with a touch screen? Or that parks itself? If you can't park a car you shouldn't be driving one. I looked at buying a washing machine, one had all these digital doo-dads on it and the lady at the store to her credit said that it doesn't get your clothes any cleaner so I bought the simple Maytag. I was in my friend's Ram pickup and the dashboard almost looked like it belonged in the space shuttle. Why does everything have to be so damned complicated and expensive now? On my N scale layout I have several locomotives that run fine and are over 50 years old and are simple to service. Later models I have to send out to be overhauled because they are too  complex for me to do it. Why did all this happen? 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:08 PM

Campbell's "Vegetable Beef" soup, the condensed version, is actually pretty good, however I don't water it down too much, just a half-can of water, and I jazz it up with a shot glass of red wine.  Comes out pretty good!

I'll do the same with their "Manhattan Clam Chowder," but if I want MCC I prefer Progresso's.  I still give it the red wine treatment. 

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:53 PM

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(Of course one of the ordinal 'premises' of Campbell's soups was to increase the 'solids' content of what actually got shipped in a cab by removing a proportion of the water via reduced-pressure evaporation... you have to dinstinguish 'solids' as identifiable things like meat chunks or mushrooms from the actual 'soup' that isn't water, and that's much more a marketing than a nutritional 'thing'.

Grew up in a Campbell's "household" and for decades preferred their products to the competition.  For years, a can of Campbells "Chunky" soup was all I needed for a workday lunch.

Somewhere about 5-6 years ago, that satisfaction went away.  Can't put my finger exactly on it, but what I used to perceive as "rich and savory" now comes aross as "slimey and greasy". And the vegetables no longer seem to boast of their nominal flavore as they once did.

No doubt the value engineers at work palming off their version of New and Improved

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Posted by Convicted One on Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:43 PM

I also remember an uncle giving me these spicy-hot tiny lozenges called Sen-Sen that had a liquorice base underneath the heat, that I absolutely used to love. I believe they were breath fresheners for smokers.....sadly no longer manufactured.

Circus peanuts seemed to taste much better in the pre "Hi-fructose corn syrup"  days.

As far as halloween candy I didn't enjoy getting, there were these tiny cellophane packs of candy corn that only had like 6-8 kernels in each pack that always left me feeling like I had been handed the short end, and there were these small bottle shaped wax capsules that contained a sweet liquid that I found annoying. The inch long mini rolls of 'Sweet-tarts" were a disappointment too.

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:23 PM

Tree, MSG is just a flavorant; it produces the 'taste' the Japanese call 'umami'.  Its name is the same kind of scare-the-marks-with-science that using 'sodium' instead of table-salt content in those 'nutrition' labels is; people think it's some kind of weird processed chemical but it's not.

Reducing the solids content is something completely different, except insofar as 'reducing the solids' also reduces the material 'in a spoonful' that produces the flavor.  
(Of course one of the ordinal 'premises' of Campbell's soups was to increase the 'solids' content of what actually got shipped in a cab by removing a proportion of the water via reduced-pressure evaporation... you have to dinstinguish 'solids' as identifiable things like meat chunks or mushrooms from the actual 'soup' that isn't water, and that's much more a marketing than a nutritional 'thing'.

(Yes, I participated in more than one specific technical discussion of the 'finer points' in those discussions with marketing reps recruiting marketing MBA candidates during the receptions after presentations ... the food served at those usually didn't suffer any 'solids reduction' either...)

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:08 PM

Remember that soup companies reduced the amount of actual solids in their soups and replaced them with MSG...

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