Euclid A massive poltical agenda is the other motive. For that motive, the virus driving a need to shut down the economy is a gift from heaven.
And the petit tyrants are having a field day. Efforts are surfacing regarding padding of counts by associating them with the virus whether they are, in fact, or not. These petit tyrants must maintain their populace in fear or they have no power.
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
Convicted One...but I don't think that historical partisian divide is the actual break point. Survival is. I mentioned apophenia for a reason.
Survival is one motive. A massive poltical agenda is the other motive. For that motive, the virus driving a need to shut down the economy is a gift from heaven.
I believe the divide is actually two different arguments, for the most part. The first is the Dem/Rep divide and the second is based on age. The older people know it can happen to them and the younger ones think they're invincible.
Euclidat all may be true, but it has nothing to do with my comments from which you quoted.
Yes it does, you were trying to pigeon hole the "stay at home vs back to work" deliberation into the stale framework that we have seen played out daily in the media for years.
And I don't believe that traditional dem/rep lib/con oppositions are the dividing point on the decision to shelter or not.
Sure, there are members in each camp who have preferences, but I don't think that historical partisian divide is the actual break point. Survival is.
I mentioned apophenia for a reason.
Convicted One Euclid I would say that the schism is the basic political divide that fundamentally exists, and existed prior to the pandemic. We have a great propensity to attribute to a single cause, problems that are the probuct of many. Stir in a little apophenia....and you have a recipe where you can blame all the world's problems on the target group of your preference. "Those folks don't share my sense of priority, therefore they must be ****" Personally I think that the stay at home vs return to work is a bigger issue than the petty differences that routinely divide us....indeed people from both sides of the traditional divides might find they have more in common with some of those whom they have traditionally opposed than others they have felt aligned with for years. Survival makes strange bedfellows. It's the moderates (I think) who will lead the way.
Euclid I would say that the schism is the basic political divide that fundamentally exists, and existed prior to the pandemic.
We have a great propensity to attribute to a single cause, problems that are the probuct of many. Stir in a little apophenia....and you have a recipe where you can blame all the world's problems on the target group of your preference.
"Those folks don't share my sense of priority, therefore they must be ****"
Personally I think that the stay at home vs return to work is a bigger issue than the petty differences that routinely divide us....indeed people from both sides of the traditional divides might find they have more in common with some of those whom they have traditionally opposed than others they have felt aligned with for years.
Survival makes strange bedfellows. It's the moderates (I think) who will lead the way.
That all may be true, but it has nothing to do with my comments from which you quoted.
54light15Convicted One, you pretty much described the movie, "The Time Machine" from 1966. So it will be Morlocks and Eloi?
I think that some are trying to sell me more along the lines of "Gran Torino", and I'm simply not ready to die for the cause yet.
EuclidI would say that the schism is the basic political divide that fundamentally exists, and existed prior to the pandemic.
Paul_D_North_Jr Are any of the railfan parks still open? That's an outdoor activity that can be done safely with social distancing. Plus, exposure to sunlight does the virus no good (I can't prove that it has a deleterious effect, but sunlight in moderation can't hurt - unlike fish tank cleaner . . . ). - PDN.
Are any of the railfan parks still open?
That's an outdoor activity that can be done safely with social distancing. Plus, exposure to sunlight does the virus no good (I can't prove that it has a deleterious effect, but sunlight in moderation can't hurt - unlike fish tank cleaner . . . ).
- PDN.
Convicted One Petty factionalism will evolve into a broad schism between two major segments of society. Those who wish to stay safe and sheltered, vs those who prioritize commerce and personal gain into an imperative to return to the old ways. While the latter is ravaged into extinction, the former inherits the earth and lives happily ever after in a new, golden age of abundance.
Petty factionalism will evolve into a broad schism between two major segments of society. Those who wish to stay safe and sheltered, vs those who prioritize commerce and personal gain into an imperative to return to the old ways.
While the latter is ravaged into extinction, the former inherits the earth and lives happily ever after in a new, golden age of abundance.
I would say that the schism is the basic political divide that fundamentally exists, and existed prior to the pandemic. I conclude that those who favor the mandated shelter and safety versus those preferring personal freedom to react to the virus as they see fit are just a natural expression of that underlying fundamental political divide. So, the conflict over continued lockdowns versus saving the economy was predictable as just another manifestation of the underlying divide.
Convicted One, you pretty much described the movie, "The Time Machine" from 1966. So it will be Morlocks and Eloi? Some (obvously the power structure) will live underground in bunkers and others will "take their chances in the sunshine" and look what happened to them. No, I think that when covid 19 passes life will go on much as it has.No strongmen taking power, no human cattle. No chances for gun nuts to kill their neighbours for the sake of a roll of bumwad.
My hope is that the ChiComs lose every inch of soil, packing plant, and hotel in this country for creating this virus..yes they created it.
The former will starve to death or go to civil war with each other...who makes the food and delivers it?
I find it interesting that no religious leader has called for a national or personal repentance. And everybody is saying; "WE will get through this.", "Science will save us." Religious leaders are even tempting God with their ego to meet for religious events in rebellion against the science they are relying on. (Matt. 4:7, Luke 4:12, Deut 6:16, Deut 8:3).
Even here in Iowa people are touting, "Iowa Proud", paying no heed that "Pride goeth before a fall."
I don't think science will save us. I don't think WE will get through this. I think WE will all fall.
Okay, you can now admonish me for bringing religion into the forum. You can berate me for not being "inclusive" and not showing "Christian forgiveness". Blast away.
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It will smother every form of entertainment and escape we have. Every forum and all social media will become COVID-24/7 until discussion of anything else is gone. It's a conspiracy. It's all run by a big eastern syndicate, don't you know! -Lucy VanPelt
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The following link is a very long paper on possible outlooks of various lines of how the covid-19 pandemic will become in the next 5 years. It examines how other Coronavirus infections have come and gone and various types of resistances to each. Especially noted is Sars and Mers. Good luck reading and do not try to absorb in one reading!
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/04/14/science.abb5793
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