Here's a thought to get kids (and some adults) to wear a mask:
[mischief emoji] Put it inside a Darth Vader helmet! [sounds of heavy breathing]
- PDN.
Deggesty After the surgery this morning, my daughter and I stopped at the optical shop in the building to see what strength reading glasses I should get; then we went to Smith's (Utah Kroger) to get glasses. There were many people in the store, some buying much and others buying little; they did not really bunch up at the registers. We used one of the self-serve registers--and an employee was going around, wiping everything off after each customer used one. My temperature was taken in my room a few minutes ago, and it was in the good range.
After the surgery this morning, my daughter and I stopped at the optical shop in the building to see what strength reading glasses I should get; then we went to Smith's (Utah Kroger) to get glasses. There were many people in the store, some buying much and others buying little; they did not really bunch up at the registers. We used one of the self-serve registers--and an employee was going around, wiping everything off after each customer used one.
My temperature was taken in my room a few minutes ago, and it was in the good range.
Johnny
BaltACDtree68 zugmann People refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse. Left to ourselves, this outbreak would be a non-issue here in a week or two.
@tree, you have overlooked the '5% Rule'. 95% of the people understand the issue and will do the right things, but there are 5% who will not or cannot without strict supervision.
The SFBA here has been a hot spot but there are some signs of turnaround. My visits to Trader Joes and Costco revealed that employees are well trained to help with social distancing, and buying volumes now look like essentials, not panic. There are even reported sightings of toilet paper.
Rural areas will be hard hit sooner or later because they have far fewer resources to draw on, say grocery stores or medical facilities. My neighbor's relatives in western Idaho report that they are still in the panic buying phase.
Startup of normal businesses or schools will have to have well thought out protocols to prevent relapse. I can't imagine how indoor physically strenuous work or tightly packed classrooms can be made safe yet.
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samfp1943Cataract Surgery is, these days, literally, 'a walk in the park'. Relatively common, and many practitioners do them in what would amount to a purpose- built, surgical suite within an office setting.
I'm very interested to hear these positive outcomes of cataract surgery since I will need it eventually; both eyes measure correction diopter > 10 and cataracts have no obscurations. However, my optometrist has been discouraging me due to the risk of retina detachment. I'm due for another appointment as one y/o glasses are already blurry and I seem to need even more light (opacity issue?). Any thoughts on the threshold for surgery? TIA!
zugmann tree68 They probably won't, and that's when you'll see growth in this area. People refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse.
tree68 They probably won't, and that's when you'll see growth in this area.
People refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse.
Monroe, Co. PA in upper eastern PA (roughly Stroudsburg almost to White Haven, straddling the I-80 corridor) reportedly has a similar issue - it's a popular get-away/ 2nd home for NYC folks. Lot of NY license plates reported there. It's among the 10 PA counties (67 total) that are now under a "Stay-At-Home" order, and probably the least-densely populated (permanent residents) one of the 10, so that ought to indicate how much the influx and the problem is.
tree68 zugmann People refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse. Left to ourselves, this outbreak would be a non-issue here in a week or two. Videos of a fire Tuesday on Long Island showed traffic on a main artery that was probably at least as heavy as a normal day. At least most non-essential folks here are sticking around home. Of course, the list of essential people grows daily - and that's not people who think they are essential. They've been so designated by their employer.
zugmann People refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse.
Left to ourselves, this outbreak would be a non-issue here in a week or two.
Videos of a fire Tuesday on Long Island showed traffic on a main artery that was probably at least as heavy as a normal day. At least most non-essential folks here are sticking around home. Of course, the list of essential people grows daily - and that's not people who think they are essential. They've been so designated by their employer.
Not only that - their employer has also have to have been designated as essential.
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tree68Left to ourselves, this outbreak would be a non-issue here in a week or two.
I really doubt that. Don't take my word for it, though- puruse some thoughts from doctors and other medical folk.
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zugmannPeople refuse to take this seriously. It will only get worse.
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tree68They probably won't, and that's when you'll see growth in this area.
Bruce Kelly ...map...
We are starting to see folks from NYC (~20,000 cases) coming into our area (2 cases) to their summer homes. Hopefully they'll self-quarantine for 14 days. They probably won't, and that's when you'll see growth in this area.
That map is just a little off for NYC. It shows the five boroughs with zero cases...
Deggesty I came throuigh the operation this moorning well. I bought an off-the-shelf pair of reading glasses which I need for reading; but I do not need glasses for working with my computer. I undersrand that after my next appointment I will be able to get reading glasses that fit my need better/ I was aware of the work while it was bring done, and had no aftereffects.
I came throuigh the operation this moorning well. I bought an off-the-shelf pair of reading glasses which I need for reading; but I do not need glasses for working with my computer.
I undersrand that after my next appointment I will be able to get reading glasses that fit my need better/ I was aware of the work while it was bring done, and had no aftereffects.
Great to hear it went well, Johnny.
My apologies if this has already been shared elsewhere. The best map I've come across so far that shows the true status of viral spread in the U.S. appears in this article. Interactive so you can zoom, navigate, and hover over each county for stats.
https://apnews.com/316123a978e61bc6df7863f05fa419fa
samfp1943 Cataract Surgery is, these days, literally, 'a walk in the park'. Relatively common, and many practitioners do them in what would amount to a purpose- built, surgical suite within an office setting.
For sure. I had laser cataract surgery in both eyes several years ago. The doctor did it one week apart, one eye at a time. No time in a hospital, more like a suburban office building. There was an anesthesiologist nurse each time. They don't put you fully under but they do sedate you. The anesthesilogists were different people. And that did make a difference. I've never done drugs, but that 1st one sent me psychedelic. I was drugged, loopy, and saw ever changing colorful kaleidoscopes. I kind of enjoyed it. "I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in."
That didn't happen on the 2nd eye. I was kind of looking forward to it.
So anyway, I'm just amazed at what modern medicine does. I guess in the past people with cataracts just went blind. Now, it's a quick, painless fix.
I'm taking sensible precautions. I have little choice. Everything fun is closed and I'm "ordered" to stay home. BS. It was a nice day today and I went for a short drive to enjoy it. People were out walking, some with DOGS. Three teens were defying authority and hanging out together on a small bridge over untroubled waters. Their school is closed. The waterfowl were undisturbed and abundant. As usual.
I have great faith in my doctor, our medical system, and in God. I'll get though this, just quit making it miserable for me to do so.
Deggesty Yetserday, I heard that only emergency surgery is to be provided in Utah, thus freeing all surgical caretakers to attend instances which are life-threatening. Last Friday, when I had the follow-up visit with my opthalmologist after my first cataract procedure, he decided that he should go ahead with the other eye--tomorrow. This afternoon, I received a call from the University's Eye Center, giving me instructions for tomorrow morning. Apparently my situation is cosidered to be such that this shoild be done. This will be done, not in the University Hospital, but the facility that is dedicated to vision care.
Yetserday, I heard that only emergency surgery is to be provided in Utah, thus freeing all surgical caretakers to attend instances which are life-threatening.
Last Friday, when I had the follow-up visit with my opthalmologist after my first cataract procedure, he decided that he should go ahead with the other eye--tomorrow. This afternoon, I received a call from the University's Eye Center, giving me instructions for tomorrow morning. Apparently my situation is cosidered to be such that this shoild be done. This will be done, not in the University Hospital, but the facility that is dedicated to vision care.
Johnny: Cataract Surgery is, these days, literally, 'a walk in the park'. Relatively common, and many practitioners do them in what would amount to a purpose- built, surgical suite within an office setting.
I won't bore you with the details, but I was a candidate for both eyes, due to underlaying health conditions, and after a few months of stabilization with intra-eye injections of the breast cancer drug 'avastin'.... This took place about 4/5 years back. It was done by a local area eye surgeon who came to our VA, a couple of times a month just to do patients there. The whole proceedure(s) lasted about a total of 30 min per eye ( done singlely, over several weeks) Check at 7 Am and out the door by 8 AM.
After about 4 years, my vision scores pretty well ! I do see a retina specialist about every 6 months...'stable' is my favorite word
Best of Luck with you proceedure!
Johnny, I have had the cataract surgery on each of my eyes in a surgercenter and my impression was that I was better served there because eye surgery was the only procedures performed so other risks were not present. Back in the '80's, I watched (on a video monitor) my dad have cataract surgery so I knew what to expect. It is very routine today. And your sight will be improved. Only negative is that you no longer have the variable focus lens you had so bifocals or reading glasses will be required. Good luck.
What is concerning to me is the impact on the health care providers. We need them and they do not have some of the tools (PPE) they need. If the growth of the number of cases continues to climb, the U.S. could be seeing what Italy has had. And since many of the cases are in Nursing homes, and Rehabilitation facilities with older populations, many who are already not in the best of health, I do not like what this portends. I believe a number of health care professionals have caught the Covid-19 and if that number climbs, we may not have the help we need when we catch the virus.
So avoid unnecessary contact with others until this subsides.
PJS1Divide any reported number of cases and deaths by an estimated population, i.e. county, state, nation, world, and one gets a very low percentage of cases and even fewer deaths as a percent of the population.
When one considers that most of the currently developing cases would have been infected before the major lockdowns began, I would opine that the growth has not been as great a some predicted, other than the few hotspots like NYC and LA.
We just picked up one more case in our four county area.
A newspaper front page covering the death of Kobe Bryant in late January also had a story about several cases of SARS-CoV-2. And there are those who think it's been on our shores since well before that.
BaltACDConsidering that likely much less than 1% of Texans have even been tested, your deductions are as meaningless as the the numbers you want to challenge.
Speculation about the number of cases in Texas is just speculation. What the health department is reporting appears to be an accurate albeit subject to challenge count.
Divide any reported number of cases and deaths by an estimated population, i.e. county, state, nation, world, and one gets a very low percentage of cases and even fewer deaths as a percent of the population.
I am not challenging any of the reported numbers, other than to note that the vary significantly from reporting agency to reporting agency.
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Notoriously missing from most reports is the number of recovered patients, which will eventually reach around 98% given current trends.
Of course, all we have available is the reported cases - those folks who caught SARS-CoV-2 and never sought medical treatment will never show up in any statistic.
I don't necessarily trust even the medical professionals. Some of them have political agendas, too. Looking at a cross section of the various official reports is more likely to give one a true sense of what's happening.
As I noted - it also helps to look at county-by-county reports. Many rural areas have as few as no cases, while most urban areas predictably show higher concentrations.
BaltACDConsidering that likely much less than 1% of Texans have even been tested,
~ 0.00046%, going by Sam's source.
PJS1Although not all the counties in Texas are reporting COVID-19 incidents and deaths, Texas Health and Human Services has a dashboard that reports some data. Here is the link: https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83 No matter what data source one looks at, the data probably should be viewed as tentative. For example, TXH&HS is reporting 974 cases while the CDC is showing 715 cases. And John Hopkins is probably showing another set of numbers. None of them, as far as I can determine, are setting the numbers in context. Assuming the 974 cases and 12 deaths reported by TXH&HS is the worst-case scenario, approximately .0034% of Texans have contracted the disease; approximately .00004% of the population has died from it, and 1.23 percent of those that got it died from it.
https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83
No matter what data source one looks at, the data probably should be viewed as tentative. For example, TXH&HS is reporting 974 cases while the CDC is showing 715 cases. And John Hopkins is probably showing another set of numbers.
None of them, as far as I can determine, are setting the numbers in context. Assuming the 974 cases and 12 deaths reported by TXH&HS is the worst-case scenario, approximately .0034% of Texans have contracted the disease; approximately .00004% of the population has died from it, and 1.23 percent of those that got it died from it.
Considering that likely much less than 1% of Texans have even been tested, your deductions are as meaningless as the the numbers you want to challenge.
As mere mortals the decisions of medical professionals are the ones that should be followed - not those of pompous political buffons that have no grounding in scientific methodology.
Although not all the counties in Texas are reporting COVID-19 incidents and deaths, Texas Health and Human Services has a dashboard that reports some data. Here is the link:
Complying with the rule not to congregate in synagogues, our evening service was in the courtyard, despite our study-hall-synagogue being large enough to accomodate the some 14 - 18 students and the rabbi still at the Yeshiva during this period while keeping "social distancing."
All four Israeli "Sick Funds," (Combination health insurance and total medical treatment) offer free flu vacine injections at the start of winter. Membership in one of the four, whicih compete on service and price, is mandatory.
blue streak 1 Just another power play ?
Yes.
Even though there have been 22,000 (more or less, depending on the estimate source) deaths from the seasonal flu, locking the country down over the holidays, when it could have made a difference, would likely have resulted in open rebellion.
Look up REX-84.
My post about the death rate. At one time each US state was posting deaths by each county ( LA Parishes still posted as of this morning ). Why do the government officials think they can keep us in the dark ? Just another power play ?
daveklepper...who counter rumors and falsehood with hard facts.
Alas, I'm finding in other fora that there are those who prefer to believe the falsehoods and rumors over hard facts. Much of that is politically based. While there are hotspots, for the most part it's not a matter of what "Sid" from "Ice Age" says - "We're all gonna die!" People are recovering just fine, and many have gone through it without their affliction even being reported.
When I mentioned the possibility of a treatment in the form of a malaria medication, one fellow made a point of posting the report about the couple who used a version meant for use in aquariums, without noting that it wasn't the human version of the medication, and that they probably took too much besides.
I've heard it suggested that the death rate for SARS-CoV-2 may have even fallen below that of the seasonal flu. Time will tell.
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