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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 28, 2020 9:49 AM

Deggesty
Balt, do you have any idea as to why the RF&P numbers its mains as it does? Ever since I obtained an ETT several years back, I have wondered about this matter.

My GUESS and it is only that - they were thinking BIG and were envisioning a 4 track system - with the inner two track being the 'high speed' passenger only tracks and the outer tracks being for freights and local industry leads.  With the RF&P being a N-S railroad - from the East the tracks are numbered 1 - 2 - 3 - 4.  #1 is the Easternmost and #4 is the Westernmost.

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, February 28, 2020 10:27 AM

Thanks, Balt. It has long intrigued me that Track 1 appears and disappears.

Incidentally, when reading about possible expansion of trackage in connection with more passenger service, I wonder how it would be handled in Fredericksburg, which has two tracks through the passenger station, with the tracks above ground level.

As I have commented, from my two experiences in boarding there, northbound passengers expect their trains to arrive on track 2--and sometimes know only when they see the train approaching that they will have to go down to the street level, walk under the tracks, and go up to the track level. There is an elevator and a ramp on the east side, and just a ramp on the west side. Sometimes, there is an annoucement that train such and such will arrive on track 3--and the prospective passengers have a little more time to move over.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 28, 2020 10:33 AM

Deggesty
Thanks, Balt. It has long intrigued me that Track 1 appears and disappears.

Incidentally, when reading about possible expansion of trackage in connection with more passenger service, I wonder how it would be handled in Fredericksburg, which has two tracks through the passenger station, with the tracks above ground level.

As I have commented, from my two experiences in boarding there, northbound passengers expect their trains to arrive on track 2--and sometimes know only when they see the train approaching that they will have to go down to the street level, walk under the tracks, and go up to the track level. There is an elevator and a ramp on the east side, and just a ramp on the west side. Sometimes, there is an annoucement that train such and such will arrive on track 3--and the prospective passengers have a little more time to move over.

Since mid-2015, Fredericksburg has had 3 Main tracks.  #1 track was extended from the VRE maintenance facility at Crossroads to the Fredricksburg control point.  I don't know if the control point is before or after the passenger station.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Friday, February 28, 2020 5:55 PM

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I would hope they knew where they were, Deggesty.  If not the whole train is in trouble. Like the train that was directed in wrong direction for a while and then they had to come back and start all over again. I think it was conductor who messed up and maybe in PA, but I do remember reading about it.  ha ha but was not funny to them 

I was on one of my junkets when I took AMTRAK's Washintonian from Monteal to Washingtron before it was cut back to St Albans, Vermont and after the train left Monteal, got to ( CANTIC ? ) where we were susposed to diverge to the left toward Essex Jct, we  didn't and as we passed the signal, we came to a stop. Waited, then backed up and stoped, waited, then took the proper route. Engineer caught it and stopped but not until he he reached the signal. Don't know what signals he saw but he didn't react until he got close to the plant. Conductor had to go back to protect rear back up move. But he had nothing to with stopping the train. Don't know whether we had a "fireman" in the cab. So as th bumper sticker say;s< "S..t happens"

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