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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, January 11, 2020 2:01 PM

[1] Ski train season is off and running

[2] Denver Western Stock show is off and running

[3] Stupid Trucker season resumes at PEETZ, Co. (not so good - managed to set the coal train on fire while he was at it. Some concern for the BNSF crew, but the news is spotty south of Sidney, NE) https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/01/10/logan-county-peetz-fire-train-semi-crash/  

 

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, January 10, 2020 2:43 PM

afternoon

Coal train still in the siding at work.Chores to do.Mother nature has shut off the water for now.Matt has to do dishes tonight.Tomorrow its off to Toledo for Matt's school.Really get too look at the engineering side. Stacey wants to see the washers and dryers near the dorms.This way Matt doesn't brong too much laundry home.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, January 9, 2020 7:22 PM

MikeF90
RR webcams are a good winter substitute, especially the Tehachapi trio on YT. The 'west' Cable cam often shows meets due to westbounds waiting at the CP; the Loop now has a cam with never before seen views and the depot cam is right at CP Tehachapi.

The loop cam has had some great pictures of fog this week.Smile Today the fog made it into the town during the day. As I post, it has lifted in town but some ground dampness remains.

On a good note, the Flagstaff cam is back up, finally. The picture is a little snowy right now but I don't think adjusting the rabbit ears will help.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:13 PM

MC - 

I know what you mean.  Watching one where a warehouse developer wants to break ground real soon (no immediate plans for rail service), but the adjoining (barely 2 lane) local road over a NS secondary needs to be widened per the approval resolution.  They're just now getting to looking at the agreement that NS sent to them for engineering review (only) of the "AGX" ("At Grade Xing") improvements.  Estimate for review is $16K.  I'm trying to find somebody to take a bet that the crossing reconstruction won't happen this year . . . 

Same project contemplates the Township granting an easement for developer's private drainage pipes across a different 'historic' (pre-Revolutionary War) public road that is without the benefit of being formally laid-out and opened, or otherwise documented (kind of like a common-law marriage, see previous phrase . . . Mischief).  I have to explain to people why that shouldn't happen and the Township should grant - at best - a license or permit, just like a utility occupancy or crossing.  Around here in these circumstances the abutting property owners retain significant present subsurface rights under the road, plus the future possibility of reverter in the event of vacation/ abandonment of the road - Township can't 'reserve' an easement for the utility (City of Altoona case, coincidentally).  Also, while the Township can drain its water off the road - and even an uphill developer can discharge some water in the direction of the surface of the road - nothing says that the Township can allow the uphill developer go under the Township's road through someone else's land to empty onto said abutting landowner without that landowner's consent. (Unrelated, but what makes this funny is that said landowner once claimed condemnation damages from a sewer line parallel to the railroad because it allegedly prevented him from developing his abutting land for a rail-served businesses.  Not only was it possible to shift and case the sewer line deep enough to meet RR specs, but his land was so steep and irregularly shaped that it was unusable for that anyway.  He lost, justifiably.)

- PDN. 

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Posted by MikeF90 on Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:42 PM

No recent onsite observations of RR operations, just trying to stay warm in my uninsulated co-op.

RR webcams are a good winter substitute, especially the Tehachapi trio on YT. The 'west' Cable cam often shows meets due to westbounds waiting at the CP; the Loop now has a cam with never before seen views and the depot cam is right at CP Tehachapi.

I just checked a item shipped via FedEx and the current location shows as Norden CA, must have close to real time GPS based monitoring on truck or train.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, January 9, 2020 2:48 PM

afternoon

Mc sounds like you got your hands full.Ns has an eastbound detroit edison coal train in the siding at work.The local was uptown as well when I left work.Chores to do here.Matt has to do dishes.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by diningcar on Thursday, January 9, 2020 8:43 AM

Lots of work for people like you MC. Glad I no longer have to deal with some of these things.

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:15 PM

It's gonna be a fun 2020. One full week in and it's already getting wierd.

(1) Three railroads claiming they own the same junction switch and control access to an industry. (Thank you STB attorneys and Rock Island Trustee Gibbons)

(2) County Park District claiming rails-to-trails and ZERO documentation. (and the railroad abandoned in the second last year of PC's existence and two years before the first R-T-T statute and eight years before the practical application of the law.)

(3) Relocating industry can't get rail service, won't sign contract with BNSF declaring who owns/operates/maintains the sidetrack (and who is liable party) - Walking away from this outfit, hope BNSF reads them the riot act. (more to this, but this outfit has to learn it has contractual and environmental obligations).... Keep on dreaming about increasing loose car business ... Clueless  shippers are their own worst enemies and there are not enough railroad people left to coach witless wonders or hold their hands. 

(4) Brand X consultant took on a project, figuring they could bluff their way thru, that involved crossing a railroad. (Whaddya mean no easements allowed and the city street isn't covered by an easement or a deed in their favor? - Funny what happens when the railroad gets there first.

(5) Civic utility people with buried pipeline and cable  suddenly discover that railroads don't rubberstamp anything (and there's the matter of mandatory casing for liquid pipelines under presssure and cable of any voltage)

and (6), EagleOne pisses off another Class One, making it really hard to come up with some baseline information. Someone needs to lay waste to certain places in Alabama and western Missouri.

Hope that first car full of aspirin and adult beverages is on the way.

Cheers!

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, January 8, 2020 2:31 PM

afternoon

Ns was clear when I left work.Chores to do.Matt has to do dishes.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 7, 2020 9:00 PM

tree68
Bad accident near here early Tuesday killed two teens.  Although the crash doesn't appear to have involved alcohol, speed does appear to have been a factor.  The two who died were ejected from the back seat.  The two in the front seat were injured, suffering broken bones and other injuries.

A small town and a school in mourning.  

Seat Belts save lives and prevent premature ejection.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:50 PM

Bad accident near here early Tuesday killed two teens.  Although the crash doesn't appear to have involved alcohol, speed does appear to have been a factor.  The two who died were ejected from the back seat.  The two in the front seat were injured, suffering broken bones and other injuries.

A small town and a school in mourning.  

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:35 PM

afternoon

Ns sent an eastbound stack train after work.Chores to do here.Guessers say 3 inches of rain Saturday? Yikes.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, January 6, 2020 3:48 PM

afternoon

Back to a full week a work.Ns sent an eastbound and westbound after work.They still have cars uptown to shuffle as well.Went into town on an errand.Csx decided to send 5 trains by while I was on the errand.Just so happened my stop was by the tracks.Time to start supper.Chores to do too.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, January 4, 2020 10:12 PM

CShaveRR
We will spend much of tomorrow resting up.

Boy, do I know that feeling...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, January 4, 2020 8:18 PM

We made it home from Kansas City this evening, spending the night in Des Moines and taking a side trip to Muscatine on the way home today.  I am bushed, but we have to be in church tomorrow.

We saw no trains arund Muscatine; didn't really expect to, on account of that derailment in LeClaire.  (There used to be a yard in between--Nahant--but I don't know whether anything happens there any more.)

We will spend much of tomorrow resting up.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, January 4, 2020 5:28 PM

evening

Chili is tasting good right now.Csx had some problems today here and there.Friend got to be a conductor for 508.Made new friends and helped clean in the historical society.Going to download pictures.Matt is doing dishes.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, January 4, 2020 6:22 AM

good morning

Chores done here.Going over to Deshler to see what Csx can run today.Matt has homework and dishes to do tonight.Crockpot full of chili will be waiting for supper tonight.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, January 3, 2020 2:33 PM

afternoon

Ns local uptown with some cars to move around after work.Conductor buddy of mine was to be on todays Csx 508.They run it straight north through Deshler now instead of turning and going through Fostoria.He got bumped off so he'll try again tomorrow.He's run east/west through Deshler but not north south.Going to do chores here.Matt has to do dishes.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, January 2, 2020 10:13 PM

For a guy who prides himself on the places he's been, I was pretty much humbled by having to say that this was my first visit ever to Kansas City Union Station.  We just spent some time taking it all in, and had a good lunch at Harveys.  I saw a couple of freight trains when we went out back and onto the bridge.  We might go back tomorrow to take in the Science Museum with our niece and grand-nephews, before heading back home.

P.S.  As a big city, Kansas City rates pretty high in my book after today's look at it.

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, January 2, 2020 6:24 PM

UPS, in "herd of turtles Mode", gets it done!

Go Bearcats!  (looks like Boston College's offense is a complete flop)

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:28 PM

afternoon

Ns local was uptown after work.Nice to have sunshine.Watching a football game down south and it's pouring rain there.Chores to do.Matt has to do dishes.

stay safe

Joe

ps knock knock delivery from MC at the door.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, January 1, 2020 4:58 PM

Might  have watched the Rose Bowl parade (there was a fire truck float, possibly a real antique fire truck, and a high school band from our region in the parade) but I was either sleeping or running fire calls.

First call was at 0122 for a mutual aid structure fire.  It was going to beat the band when we pulled in, and not much was saved.  The family got out OK, though, so there's that to be thankful for.

Got back to the house about 0700, got some breakfast, then ran a daily amateur radio net at 0730, followed by crashing in my recliner, dead to the world until the next call at about 10 AM for a rekindle at the previous scene.  Got cancelled on that one, so after putting the truck back in the station, again crashed until the second call for a rekindle.  

This time they got all the hot spots, but drained the tanker I was driving in the process, so I had to head out for 2000 gallons of water and a fill-up of Diesel (we try to keep all the trucks above 3/4 tank at all times).

Finally home, again, and still bushed.  

Some New Years Day...

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, January 1, 2020 2:37 PM

JoeKoh

Welcome to 2020

Cleaned house and put lights and things away.Going to watch the Rose bowl parade.Matt gets to do dishes tonight.Tomorrow it's back to work.

stay safe

Joe

 

I-70 west of town closed around the continental divide and I-25 closed from Ft. Collins into Wyoming. No new snow here, just strong wind. Putting off pulling decorations down until the weekend when it is hopefully saner. Even walking the dog is an adventure right now. 

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/semi-truck-loses-control-crashes-in-high-winds-on-i-25-near-colorado-wyoming-border 

Will put away the electric scottie when the electric reindeer comes down. Duncan has a full time job warding off a young squirrel trying to access a bird feeder by crawling up a sliding glass door screen.

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, January 1, 2020 7:59 AM

Welcome to 2020

Cleaned house and put lights and things away.Going to watch the Rose bowl parade.Matt gets to do dishes tonight.Tomorrow it's back to work.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 9:02 PM

Had the pleasure of attending a friend's wedding for NYE.  And it was punctuated by a fire call, with the groom driving the engine to the scene.  

The call was minor and we were back in no time.

I doubt I'll be up at midnight, unless something wakes me up...

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:59 PM

Wishing all of you on the forum a prosperous and healthy 2020. May all your trains stay on the tracks and every one stay safe. Johnn, I think your living facility has got a great idea. I anticipate moving into a senior facility in the near future and I will need to check out what they do.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:41 PM

A happy 2020 to everyone (I don't expect to be awake when the clock strikes twelve...and I won't be one of the twelve that are struck!)!

We are in a hotel in Des Moines, headed to KC in time for the post-wedding celebration of our niece to a nice guy from Joplin (nobody's invited to the actual wedding).  I wasn't expecting to see much today, but we stopped for gas in this city called Rochelle, Illinois.  The result was a relettered series I hadn't known before, and two series containing 254 prviously-unreported new (2015) cars to finish out the decade for me.

Daughter Linda is still hanging in there, and in the last two days she's gotten farewell columns from the San Francisco Chronicle, and a a professor who writes for the New York Times and the New Yorker magazine.  They're revealing and touching at the same time.

Carl

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:10 AM

Where I live (assisted living), we have a "Happy Noon Day Celebration"--so we do not have to stay up late and miss some of our beauty sleep.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:57 AM

We're quiet for the moment, but expect weather later tonight - just in time for NYE celebrations...  A couple I know is getting married tonight.  I'll be there.

Watching Deshler turn whiter by the hour.  I was just thinking, though - given respite from the wind and a little heat (say, a canopy with windows and a heater or two), I wouldn't mind being there today.  

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, December 31, 2019 8:46 AM

JoeKoh
Happy St.Ed's day.  Stay frosty.



Taken from us too soon.  Amen, Joe!

Sad

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