zugmann Overmod (Vicodin or Lortab might be further indicated, the way things have been going, but you'll just have to resist...) I think we're soon going to need the real hard stuff.
Overmod (Vicodin or Lortab might be further indicated, the way things have been going, but you'll just have to resist...)
I think we're soon going to need the real hard stuff.
Don't worry, this thread will probably get locked soon anyway.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
The tactic used for years on here when railroaders don't like a thread.
243129I have had 'incidents' over the years and not once have I or anyone I have ever heard of been asked to assume the duties of emergency personnel. Until now.
zardoz 243129 I have had 'incidents' over the years and not once have I or anyone I have ever heard of been asked to assume the duties of emergency personnel. Until now. Ok. I give up. In order to put an end to this silly arguing, I have decided on a full disclosure. You busted me. It never happened. I was just looking for some sympathy when I wrote this story. I'm just a wannabe who never touched a throttle, and I should have known better than to try to pull a fast one over on such a learned, experienced few. My humblest apologies for leading y'all down such a difficult path. We should all be grateful that the few have deemed it suitable to bestow upon us unwashed masses the benefit of their wisdom.
243129 I have had 'incidents' over the years and not once have I or anyone I have ever heard of been asked to assume the duties of emergency personnel. Until now.
Ok. I give up. In order to put an end to this silly arguing, I have decided on a full disclosure. You busted me. It never happened. I was just looking for some sympathy when I wrote this story. I'm just a wannabe who never touched a throttle, and I should have known better than to try to pull a fast one over on such a learned, experienced few. My humblest apologies for leading y'all down such a difficult path. We should all be grateful that the few have deemed it suitable to bestow upon us unwashed masses the benefit of their wisdom.
charlie hebdoThe tactic used for years on here when railroaders don't like a thread.
Not just RRers.
THis thread can go on forever for all I care. It's great drama.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
zardozOk. I give up. In order to put an end to this silly arguing, I have decided on a full disclosure. You busted me. It never happened. I was just looking for some sympathy when I wrote this story. I'm just a wannabe who never touched a throttle, and I should have known better than to try to pull a fast one over on such a learned, experienced few. My humblest apologies for leading y'all down such a difficult path. We should all be grateful that the few have deemed it suitable to bestow upon us unwashed masses the benefit of their wisdom.
And you would have gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids!
nevermind
charlie hebdoA very clear and succinct explanation of what is so bad about this Darwin Award, which, BTW, is a distortion of evolutionary biology.
zardozReality? What's that? Please describe it to me, including all references to quantum entanglement, the double-slit experiment, and the decoherence of superposition quantum states.
You know, I was going to leave you alone because I kind of felt sorry for you but now that you asked.
"Reality" is that you did not crawl under your train and remove body parts so that your train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and you were sick of listening to the dispatcher, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested that you do it. GMAFB the story is preposterous.
Preposterous. Not the only thing that is...
Imagine how disappointed surviving relatives of the departed would be to discover that the thread about their unfortunate relative devolved into a battle of egos?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Those Darwin Awards do like to gather around grade crossings for some reason.
Convicted One Imagine how disappointed surviving relatives of the departed would be to discover that the thread about their unfortunate relative devolved into a battle of egos?
Imagine how disappointed surviving relatives of the departed would be to discover that the thread about their unfortunate relative devolved into giving their loved one a Darwin award.
243129 zardoz Reality? What's that? Please describe it to me, including all references to quantum entanglement, the double-slit experiment, and the decoherence of superposition quantum states. You know, I was going to leave you alone because I kind of felt sorry for you but now that you asked. "Reality" is that you did not crawl under your train and remove body parts so that your train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and you were sick of listening to the dispatcher, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested that you do it. GMAFB the story is preposterous.
zardoz Reality? What's that? Please describe it to me, including all references to quantum entanglement, the double-slit experiment, and the decoherence of superposition quantum states.
Euclid Psychot BaltACD charlie hebdo You can try to rationalize it away if you like but the fact remains the Darwin stuff is ghoulish. And an Amtrak engineer with ~50 years of experience agrees. And yet you all have been jumping on the bodies dead RAIL EMPLOYEE's. One of which I knew as an acquaintence that I had several converstations with over the years - beyond the official communications of our jobs. Give me a sanctimonious break! Sure, but that could be turned on its head too: you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths, but you have no problem flippantly dismissing the kid on the bridge as a moron who needed to be removed from the gene pool. It just proves that it's all a matter of perspective: if you're connected with someone in a familial, personal, or professional sense, you're more likely to feel empathy. That's human nature. It proves no such thing because it did not happen the way you or Balt say it did. You said this: "...you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths..." The discussion is readily available. You say you know what it said. You must be able to find what you cite here in that thread. Please find it and quote it here. In that thread, there is nothing remotely equivalent to the Darwin Award insult that was made against the two victims of the Ivy City accident. If you are talking about me making such an insult, I mostly defended the two victims and mostly blamed the CSX. I would never invoke the Darwin Award, and never did in that thread because I see it as childish chest beating in attacking someone for making a mistake. So please go extract your point from that thread and show us.
Psychot BaltACD charlie hebdo You can try to rationalize it away if you like but the fact remains the Darwin stuff is ghoulish. And an Amtrak engineer with ~50 years of experience agrees. And yet you all have been jumping on the bodies dead RAIL EMPLOYEE's. One of which I knew as an acquaintence that I had several converstations with over the years - beyond the official communications of our jobs. Give me a sanctimonious break! Sure, but that could be turned on its head too: you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths, but you have no problem flippantly dismissing the kid on the bridge as a moron who needed to be removed from the gene pool. It just proves that it's all a matter of perspective: if you're connected with someone in a familial, personal, or professional sense, you're more likely to feel empathy. That's human nature.
BaltACD charlie hebdo You can try to rationalize it away if you like but the fact remains the Darwin stuff is ghoulish. And an Amtrak engineer with ~50 years of experience agrees. And yet you all have been jumping on the bodies dead RAIL EMPLOYEE's. One of which I knew as an acquaintence that I had several converstations with over the years - beyond the official communications of our jobs. Give me a sanctimonious break!
charlie hebdo You can try to rationalize it away if you like but the fact remains the Darwin stuff is ghoulish. And an Amtrak engineer with ~50 years of experience agrees.
And yet you all have been jumping on the bodies dead RAIL EMPLOYEE's. One of which I knew as an acquaintence that I had several converstations with over the years - beyond the official communications of our jobs.
Give me a sanctimonious break!
Sure, but that could be turned on its head too: you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths, but you have no problem flippantly dismissing the kid on the bridge as a moron who needed to be removed from the gene pool. It just proves that it's all a matter of perspective: if you're connected with someone in a familial, personal, or professional sense, you're more likely to feel empathy. That's human nature.
It proves no such thing because it did not happen the way you or Balt say it did. You said this: "...you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths..."
The discussion is readily available. You say you know what it said. You must be able to find what you cite here in that thread. Please find it and quote it here.
In that thread, there is nothing remotely equivalent to the Darwin Award insult that was made against the two victims of the Ivy City accident. If you are talking about me making such an insult, I mostly defended the two victims and mostly blamed the CSX. I would never invoke the Darwin Award, and never did in that thread because I see it as childish chest beating in attacking someone for making a mistake. So please go extract your point from that thread and show us.
My apologies if you thought I was attempting to draw equivalency between that thread and this one. I wasn't. Perhaps I should have said that "for some people" it's all a matter of perspective.
I would think most of us can recall at least one occasion when we did something incredibly stupid or careless that might have--and perhaps should have--killed us. Growing up on a farm in North Dakota, I can recall several such incidents when dealing with farm machinery and/or animals. Here, but for the grace of (insert favorite deity here) go we...
Murphy SidingI dunno. To be honest, a lot of the stuff you sling here and on the Amtrak threads seems to test reality and border on preposterous.
Post some of the 'stuff' that borders on preposterous so as to support your allegation.
Murphy Siding I guess it boils down to delivery and demeanor sometimes.
Straightforward, factual talk minus the backslapping corporate style niceties is not popular these days. I tell it like it is, Dale Carnegie I am not.
Murphy Sidingcan't see anyone's perspective except your own and has never been wrong.
That is not true. Euclid and Overmod's perspectives which I mostly agree with come to mind. There are others also. If telling it like it is in straightforward 'big boy' talk offends, and I speak to the masses here, then don't participate so as not to get your feelings hurt.
That being said, and I ask this question of all, do you really believe, as a poster here claims, that he crawled under his train after hitting a trespasser and removed body parts so that his train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and because he was sick of listening to the dispatcher calling for updates, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested him to do it?
Psychot Euclid Psychot BaltACD charlie hebdo You can try to rationalize it away if you like but the fact remains the Darwin stuff is ghoulish. And an Amtrak engineer with ~50 years of experience agrees. And yet you all have been jumping on the bodies dead RAIL EMPLOYEE's. One of which I knew as an acquaintence that I had several converstations with over the years - beyond the official communications of our jobs. Give me a sanctimonious break! Sure, but that could be turned on its head too: you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths, but you have no problem flippantly dismissing the kid on the bridge as a moron who needed to be removed from the gene pool. It just proves that it's all a matter of perspective: if you're connected with someone in a familial, personal, or professional sense, you're more likely to feel empathy. That's human nature. It proves no such thing because it did not happen the way you or Balt say it did. You said this: "...you and others were clearly very upset at the mere hint that the railroad employees might have been partially responsible for their own deaths..." The discussion is readily available. You say you know what it said. You must be able to find what you cite here in that thread. Please find it and quote it here. In that thread, there is nothing remotely equivalent to the Darwin Award insult that was made against the two victims of the Ivy City accident. If you are talking about me making such an insult, I mostly defended the two victims and mostly blamed the CSX. I would never invoke the Darwin Award, and never did in that thread because I see it as childish chest beating in attacking someone for making a mistake. So please go extract your point from that thread and show us. My apologies if you thought I was attempting to draw equivalency between that thread and this one. I wasn't. Perhaps I should have said that "for some people" it's all a matter of perspective. I would think most of us can recall at least one occasion when we did something incredibly stupid or careless that might have--and perhaps should have--killed us. Growing up on a farm in North Dakota, I can recall several such incidents when dealing with farm machinery and/or animals. Here, but for the grace of (insert favorite deity here) go we...
Psychot,
I am sorry, and do apologize for responding without understanding your post that I quoted. I assumed Balt was referring to the Ivy City thread because I recall that at the time of that thread, he had said he knew one of the victims in that accident.
Then above, he commented in a way that I understood to be criticizing participants of that thread. I was a participant. Balt seemed to be accusing us of treating the two victims just as we accuse people here of treating trespassers in saying they deserve the Darwin Award.
I had made comments in that thread; and so because of that, in your comment, I mistakenly assumed you were addressing me. But now I realize you were addressing Balt, and I understand your point being that there is a double standard being applied in deciding who should get the Darwin Award for dying due to their own mistake. I completely agree with that. That is the nature of the Darwin Award.
243129 Murphy Siding I dunno. To be honest, a lot of the stuff you sling here and on the Amtrak threads seems to test reality and border on preposterous. Post some of the 'stuff' that borders on preposterous so as to support your allegation. Murphy Siding I guess it boils down to delivery and demeanor sometimes. Straightforward, factual talk minus the backslapping corporate style niceties is not popular these days. I tell it like it is, Dale Carnegie I am not. Murphy Siding can't see anyone's perspective except your own and has never been wrong. That is not true. Euclid and Overmod's perspectives which I mostly agree with come to mind. There are others also. If telling it like it is in straightforward 'big boy' talk offends, and I speak to the masses here, then don't participate so as not to get your feelings hurt. That being said, and I ask this question of all, do you really believe, as a poster here claims, that he crawled under his train after hitting a trespasser and removed body parts so that his train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and because he was sick of listening to the dispatcher calling for updates, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested him to do it?
Murphy Siding I dunno. To be honest, a lot of the stuff you sling here and on the Amtrak threads seems to test reality and border on preposterous.
Murphy Siding can't see anyone's perspective except your own and has never been wrong.
Murphy SidingWhatever. You just proved my point on several different levels. The only part I will address is the last paragraph.
Show the levels where I proved your point. Also, let it be noted that when confronted to prove your allegation, you do not i.e. my statements that "border on preposterous".
Zardoz: Evolutionary biology is about new, more adaptive structures and mechanisms occurring and continuing because they are more successful. It's not the simplistic "survival of the fittest" any more than "man descended from the apes" is an accurate summary.
I have provided therapy for two engineers who had accidents like yours and considerably more combat vets who saw and participated in things much worse. NONE of them found any comfort in awarding the dead a Darwin prize or any other form of gallows humor.
Murphy Siding 243129 That being said, and I ask this question of all, do you really believe, as a poster here claims, that he crawled under his train after hitting a trespasser and removed body parts so that his train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and because he was sick of listening to the dispatcher calling for updates, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested him to do it?
243129 That being said, and I ask this question of all, do you really believe, as a poster here claims, that he crawled under his train after hitting a trespasser and removed body parts so that his train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and because he was sick of listening to the dispatcher calling for updates, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested him to do it?
You seem to be saying that a person who was not there to witness is not free to judge whether the story is true or not. I would say that people who were not there are free to believe it or disbelieve it. They would judge the story on its plausibility.
Euclid Murphy Siding 243129 That being said, and I ask this question of all, do you really believe, as a poster here claims, that he crawled under his train after hitting a trespasser and removed body parts so that his train crew would not get their uniforms dirty and because he was sick of listening to the dispatcher calling for updates, all this while Chicago emergency personnel stood by and requested him to do it? You seem to be saying that a person who was not there to witness is not free to judge whether the story is true or not. I would say that people who were not there are free to believe it or disbelieve it. They would judge the story on its plausibility.
243129 Murphy Siding Whatever. You just proved my point on several different levels. The only part I will address is the last paragraph. Show the levels where I proved your point. Also, let it be noted that when confronted to prove your allegation, you do not i.e. my statements that "border on preposterous".
Murphy Siding Whatever. You just proved my point on several different levels. The only part I will address is the last paragraph.
Murphy SidingWhatever. You won. Take a victory lap.
I accept your surrender.
King Pyrrhus would be proud.
zugmannKing Pyrrhus would be proud.
No pyrrhic victory here sniper. When confronted for proof of his allegations he declined to provide. The only casualty was him.
Oh btw do you ever post anything of substance or is sniping your forte?
I just wanted to see how you were doing. Enjoying the fall weather? Excited for the holidays?
-the sniper.
Yes
243129 zugmann King Pyrrhus would be proud. No pyrrhic victory here sniper. When confronted for proof of his allegations he declined to provide. The only casualty was him. Oh btw do you ever post anything of substance or is sniping your forte?
zugmann King Pyrrhus would be proud.
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