Euclid zugmann Euclid So, obiously trains must be expected to be able to stop short of any vehicles. Then they would be required restricted speed. Are they here? It would require something more restrictive than restricted speed. Being able to stop within one half of the range of vision would not address the problem in this location. It would require being able to stop within a couple hundred feet in order to be reasonable. It is as if the whole street there is one giant grade crossing.
zugmann Euclid So, obiously trains must be expected to be able to stop short of any vehicles. Then they would be required restricted speed. Are they here?
Euclid So, obiously trains must be expected to be able to stop short of any vehicles.
Then they would be required restricted speed. Are they here?
It would require something more restrictive than restricted speed. Being able to stop within one half of the range of vision would not address the problem in this location. It would require being able to stop within a couple hundred feet in order to be reasonable.
It is as if the whole street there is one giant grade crossing.
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EuclidIt would require something more restrictive than restricted speed.
Yeah, that doesn't exist. And there are times when running restricted speed you have to stop within a few feet. You adjust speed accordingly. After all (let's all say it together): RESTRICTED SPEED IS NOT A SPEED, BUT A METHOD OF OPERATION!
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ETT does not require Restricted Speed.
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I have never paid attention so this may be more common than I realize. I guess I have never seen a situation like this.
Are there a lot of places that have tracks running on streets like this? (Not talking about a streetcars, etc.)
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What was the driver supposed to do? He enters the intersection with the right of way, and makes a right turn onto a street that then become too narrow for his vehicle due to the approach of a train. Wisely, he chose not to attempt backing up the trailer blind into the busy cross street.
I would say there is always the potential for vehicles being trapped there due to the vehicle lane not being wide enough without fouling the track. So, obiously trains must be expected to be able to stop short of any vehicles.
chatanuga BaltACD I don't know if the street running is at some 'authorized speed' or if the area is to be operated at Restricted Speed? In La Grange, as trains come into town from either direction, they're only moving about 10 MPH. Once the head end of the train is exiting the street running and the "no horn" crossings, the trains generally accelerate back to normal track speed. Kevin
BaltACD I don't know if the street running is at some 'authorized speed' or if the area is to be operated at Restricted Speed?
I don't know if the street running is at some 'authorized speed' or if the area is to be operated at Restricted Speed?
There is a difference between 10 MPH and Restricted Speed. With 10 MPH trains ARE NOT required to stop within 1/2 the range of vision. The maximum speed authorized by CSX Restricted Speed is 15 MPH being able to stop within 1/2 the range of vision.
Found a Louisville Divison ETT - at South Lagrange the restriction is 10 MPH until the engine blocks the street - then it can accelerate to 20 MPH. On either side of South Lagrange the track speed is 40 MPH.
One thing I was concerned about when the train stopped and the gates came up was if the Conductor would have to flag the road crossing. Was glad to see that when the train started moving again that the gates then descended again.
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Paul_D_North_JrNotice the "shoving move" back across the intersection and back into the street it came out of without protection! Wasn't until later that I saw the intersection was protected by gates, at least on the far side. - PDN.
Wasn't until later that I saw the intersection was protected by gates, at least on the far side.
- PDN.
Don't believe Kentucky highway rules require anyone to protect the point on a shove.
Notice the "shoving move" back across the intersection and back into the street it came out of without protection!
Flintlock76Very professional! Was the guy with the white pick-up and trailer trying to park in a no-parking zone? Not too professional on his part.
Was the guy with the white pick-up and trailer trying to park in a no-parking zone? Not too professional on his part.
I don't think he was trying to park - he made the trun, saw the train and 'thought' he could squeeze his truck and trailer into the No Parking zone for the train to pass. Bad Idea.
Looks like he was trying to pull over for the train.
Seems like that road would be better if it were made 1-way (At least for the 2 blocks of street running).
Very professional!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_drARTH_Uo
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