mudchickenI don't ever remember this in SW Ohio.... Local lore?
Larry Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date Come ride the rails with me! There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...
Paul of Covington Larry, you just reminded me of something I read back in the 1960's (I think), about using the TV set directly as a tornado warning. You would select broadcast (not cable) channel 2 or 13 (It was one end of the VHF channels--I don't remember which.), then adjust the brightness control so the screen just turned black. If there was a tornado in the area, the continuous lightning activity in it would turn the screen white. Does anyone else remember this?
Larry, you just reminded me of something I read back in the 1960's (I think), about using the TV set directly as a tornado warning. You would select broadcast (not cable) channel 2 or 13 (It was one end of the VHF channels--I don't remember which.), then adjust the brightness control so the screen just turned black. If there was a tornado in the area, the continuous lightning activity in it would turn the screen white. Does anyone else remember this?
Ominous black clouds to the west of here (the mountains vanished)... Hoping for more rain and a smaller water bill.
Just back from Durango - expected to see miles of black trees and ashes*, but nope. Steam engines running normally and I love the sound of those rascals as they start climbing/working at speed above Hermosa before the first stop at Rockwood (wye)
* The "416" fire of last year claimed no houses or structures, big as it was. There is a "441" fire up there now, well to the east of the railroad (lightning fire) that they are going to let burn. (nice, moist and green this year)
afternoon
Ns had a mixed frieght going in the siding.The local was also uptown switching when I left work.Matt is done with his classes for now.Chores to do here.
stay safe
Joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
evening
Did some yardwork tonight.Neighbor asked for some landscape help as well.Matt started the project but I finished it.He is doing dishes now.Going to get some supper.
joe
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tree68 BaltACD I am guessing - the station(s) have secured new radar equipment that can detect wind movements within a storm and the radar has a supervising computer program that can detect wind conditions that have the signature of a tornado. That's within the capabilities of the WSR-88D radar (and accompanying software) the NWS uses. I doubt most TV stations bother to maintain their own radar any more. The WSR-88D is that which is known as "Doppler." New capabilities have been added to the WSR-88D that allow a better reading of what the radar is seeing. The Doppler radars take a full six minutes to do a complete volume scan at elevations ranging from 0.5 degrees to 6.4 degrees for "clear air" and up to 19.5 degrees in storm modes. Some radars have recently had their lowest elevation reduced to zero degrees. The couplet signature of rotation isn't hard to spot if you're looking at the relative storm velocities, which is a product available on some weather sites. Seeing such rotation usually results in a "radar indicated" tornado report. NWS shares the data freely (and free), meaning local users (including broadcast stations) can do such over-the-top coverage. Remember - if it bleeds, it leads... Some years ago I recall reading about a TV station that would stay on the air overnight during potential storm situations. They didn't broadcast any programming - just dead air. They told their viewers to leave their TV's on (and tuned to that station), with the volume up. If a storm warning was necessary, they would broadcast a tone to wake folks up, probably followed by information about the warning.
BaltACD I am guessing - the station(s) have secured new radar equipment that can detect wind movements within a storm and the radar has a supervising computer program that can detect wind conditions that have the signature of a tornado.
That's within the capabilities of the WSR-88D radar (and accompanying software) the NWS uses. I doubt most TV stations bother to maintain their own radar any more. The WSR-88D is that which is known as "Doppler."
New capabilities have been added to the WSR-88D that allow a better reading of what the radar is seeing.
The Doppler radars take a full six minutes to do a complete volume scan at elevations ranging from 0.5 degrees to 6.4 degrees for "clear air" and up to 19.5 degrees in storm modes. Some radars have recently had their lowest elevation reduced to zero degrees.
The couplet signature of rotation isn't hard to spot if you're looking at the relative storm velocities, which is a product available on some weather sites. Seeing such rotation usually results in a "radar indicated" tornado report.
NWS shares the data freely (and free), meaning local users (including broadcast stations) can do such over-the-top coverage. Remember - if it bleeds, it leads...
Some years ago I recall reading about a TV station that would stay on the air overnight during potential storm situations. They didn't broadcast any programming - just dead air. They told their viewers to leave their TV's on (and tuned to that station), with the volume up. If a storm warning was necessary, they would broadcast a tone to wake folks up, probably followed by information about the warning.
In this area - TV station don't broadcast dead air during the wee hours, however, they do interrupt programming to broadcast the warnings and the warning tone, which seems to be broadcast at about 10dB or more louder than the program's audio level. You also get the NWS 'computerized' announcement of the warning and a rebroadcast of the tone at the conclusion of the message.
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BaltACDI am guessing - the station(s) have secured new radar equipment that can detect wind movements within a storm and the radar has a supervising computer program that can detect wind conditions that have the signature of a tornado.
tree68I get texts for various weather events - I could get them for things like earthquakes, etc, but there's no need for that. The problem is when there's an on-going weather event, like the recent heat wave or good ol' lake effect snow, and they send out the same text every two hours. Really? For two days? I got it the first time...
The problem is when there's an on-going weather event, like the recent heat wave or good ol' lake effect snow, and they send out the same text every two hours. Really? For two days? I got it the first time...
In addition to 'grabbing' the programming the screen also contained a 'scroll' of the warnings and that areas that were covered by the warnings and their times of expiration across the top of the screen both during the 'cut in' and while regular programming was taken place.
I am guessing - the station(s) have secured new radar equipment that can detect wind movements within a storm and the radar has a supervising computer program that can detect wind conditions that have the signature of a tornado. At the time there were NO REPORTED SIGHTINGS of tornados. I don't know if any later investigation of damages in the appropriate areas my have tornadic indications. My view is they just wanted to show off their new 'toy'.
I get texts for various weather events - I could get them for things like earthquakes, etc, but there's no need for that.
Now getting the 'Weather Guessers' preempting regular programming to talk their way through the entirety of a Tornado Warning.
They broke into programming at 9:28 and the Warning is to be in effect until 9:45 and it has been the same verbiage used being cut and sliced and rearranged since they started - NWS expired the warning at 9:40 and the BS stopped and cut to commercial on the 'regular programming.
Ns was clear when I left work.Ran an errand in town.Came home and contractors were getting ready to redo our street.They are grinding today.Repave tomorrow.Time to do some chores.
BOB WITHORNMan retirement is a ot of work!!!! I need a job just to relax!!!
morning
Had a good visit visit yesterday with a family friend.My dad recognized who she was.Sisters and friend traded grandma stories.I was just the driver.Niece did get her box.Did see some CSX and Ns action but did not stop.We have church.Matt gets to help with lunch and do dishes tonight.Tomorrow it's back to work.
Deggesty CSSHEGEWISCH We got a break yesterday when a thunderstorm passed through in the late morning to early afternoon. Kept the temperature down but drove the humidity up. Today it was already 84 degrees at 5:15AM with humidity to match. Morning train was on time, not sure about this afternoon. That reminds me of the two months I spent in Baton ROuge in the summer of 1953--rain was nice in the afternoon, but the water evaporating from the pavement made the heat worse.
CSSHEGEWISCH We got a break yesterday when a thunderstorm passed through in the late morning to early afternoon. Kept the temperature down but drove the humidity up. Today it was already 84 degrees at 5:15AM with humidity to match. Morning train was on time, not sure about this afternoon.
We got a break yesterday when a thunderstorm passed through in the late morning to early afternoon. Kept the temperature down but drove the humidity up. Today it was already 84 degrees at 5:15AM with humidity to match. Morning train was on time, not sure about this afternoon.
That reminds me of the two months I spent in Baton ROuge in the summer of 1953--rain was nice in the afternoon, but the water evaporating from the pavement made the heat worse.
Yep, timing is everything. If it rains too early in the afternoon, you get a steambath; if it rains late in the afternoon then clears up at night, you get a very rare thing down here: a cool morning.
Stacey had the day off so I took it off too.Yardwork is done.Matt has his ticket for the rail excursion on the former DT&I.It is going from Leipsic to Diann Michigan and back in October.I will be on the ground waiting for it to get pictures.Going to go keep cool.
Johnny
Heat advisories for today and tomorrow here. There's rain in the forecast, but they say it'll be scattered. Don't need a gullywasher like Joe had yesterday - watched one of them pass through Deshler on the cam - cut visibility down to a hundred yards or so.
Just finished running the morning ham radio net - time for some light chores before I camp out in front of the box fan.
Had a ditch filling downpour when we left work today.Picked up my nieces box for delivery Saturday.Went and took brother out.We watched CSX work in Garrett.(cars were not in order said the crew) Went back up to the Ns line.Trains started coming because of a work curfew being lifted.Saw the Ns local going back to Elkhart and he had a former conrail caboose with him.An Ns Mow employee was locking up his machine as it sat with the other tonka toys in Edgerton.Going to keep cool the next couple days.Plenty of water on hand for us.
Pushing 100 degrees here. (Humidity or not, that's still too much heat)
Jeff: Intimately familiar with Eagle and Falcon Avenues, west of Carroll. The old stone abutments at Eagle have now seen their third bridge and different alignment over the years. (the stone walls now don't really need to be there)...Froze our butts off, working in an Iowa snowstorm. (and then there is the cut in the hill east of the Arcadia elevators at the "divide" ... plus Maple River Jcn (CNW abandoned at MP 262.5 in 1986 to Ida Grove)
Saturday could be a 20 degree drop in temperature plus the unstable weather as the front passes through.
CSSHEGEWISCHToday through Saturday are supposed to be real scorchers.
Same here - just planning to "play it cool." Not bad for now.
If we get reports of people having serious trouble with the heat, we could probably open up the FD Banquet Hall as a cooling station.
Today through Saturday are supposed to be real scorchers. My ride this morning was slightly late due to a few speed restrictions because of the heat. It will probably be worse tomorrow. Metra is already alerting people about the speed restrictions and resulting delays.
Ns was clear when I left work.Niece called and asked while you are coming down this way....Chores to do here.Going to get started on them.
ChuckCobleigh jeffhergert Well, you can see my arm and the lime green of my vest and a little bit redness of the Kromer. How about this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUDN3zFg1jA
jeffhergert Well, you can see my arm and the lime green of my vest and a little bit redness of the Kromer.
How about this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUDN3zFg1jA
The first scene, coming into Carroll, I'm sitting behind the engineer in the cab of 4014. The other scenes, I'm back in the cab of the 8167.
Jeff
Ns had the local uptown when I left work.Went to a meeting in Deshler tonight.Csxs local D743 did it's run around.Also q 508 had some interesting cars as well.I did see q 192 with it's mix of stacks and produce cars on the way home.Time for bed.
I enjoyed seeing the videos of the UP special train. The locomotives whistle reminded me the N&W;s J whistle, which enjoyed hearing when #42 was leaving Bristol--whether I was standing by it or out at t my college, about a mile and three-fifths away.
jeffhergertWell, you can see my arm and the lime green of my vest and a little bit redness of the Kromer.
blhanel Well, drat. Got a nice video of 4014 eastbound at the J Avenue overpass just west of the Kate Shelley Bridge, but didn't see a waving Kromer in it. Catch you daydreaming, Jeff? https://youtu.be/YdwEn1LaKoc Then, the camera wasn't ready when I finally did see you sitting in the helper unit in Boone. More pictures to follow...
Well, drat.
Got a nice video of 4014 eastbound at the J Avenue overpass just west of the Kate Shelley Bridge, but didn't see a waving Kromer in it. Catch you daydreaming, Jeff?
https://youtu.be/YdwEn1LaKoc
Then, the camera wasn't ready when I finally did see you sitting in the helper unit in Boone.
More pictures to follow...
Well, you can see my arm and the lime green of my vest and a little bit redness of the Kromer.
Tough work but somebody's got to do it. Happy for you.
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