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Chatterbox Spring 2019
Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 2:24 PM

Afternoon

Tomorrow starts spring.It is also Mamma's birthday.The guessers say warm for the weekend.Ns local was uptown moving cars.Matt and I are off to Deshler for our first meeting of the year.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 4:15 PM

We had our usual Tuesday afternoon at the Peck House Museum today.  The railroad was, for all intents and purposes, dead.  Other than the scoots, I think two westbound intermodal trains went by.  

I don't know...were they headed to Rochelle, or does UP still use its Peoria Sub to connect to the old Santa Fe at Edelstein?  

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 7:26 PM

Off Topic Question:  I am sure most of the posters here remember that 2010 movie 'Unstoppable".  About the "AVR" decorated engines: I know they were redecorated units of Canadian Pacific origins; There were four[777,767, and 7375,7346] used in the movie.

  My question is can a couple of them still be running in a 'modified' paint scheme?

I have seen a unit through this area on at least three occasion in the last several months, they seem to resemble the "AVR" paint scheme from the movie, but not exactly; was going both east or west on at least three different occasions.              This third time, it was Eastbound on a stack train, and it was the 3rd unit out, leaders were  BNSF units. Headed towards either Gardner, Ks yard or KCK area?                  Time here was about 1840 hours 03/19/2019. <Yes, I was sober. >   Whistling

 Anyone have any ideas?  THANKS !

 

 


 

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Posted by rdamon on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:23 PM

Here is a photo when they were done 'working'

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/309659/

CP 9782, 9751, 9777, 9758

Looks like 9752and 9758 kept the striped plow others looks like they were fully repainted.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/573227/

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/668052/

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:41 PM

(CShaveRR) Carl: Sort of off topic, but I know you seem to search, for the 'unusual'.   Here is a you tube video of one of the Carbondale/Chicago 'sets'[Illini or  Saluki (?) ] It is a faily new Charger.   Note the mis-spelling of AMTRAK on the side of the engine. That and the weird mix of the AMTRAK cars in the train.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCrfONtvAs

 

 


 

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:06 PM

Thanks, Sam.

That is certainly an interesting view of the ground and also of the drivers. Not much view of the engineer.

The variety of equipment is interesting.

How old is the engine? What kind of paint was used for the "AMTRAK?"

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:42 PM

samfp1943
  Here is a you tube video of one of the Carbondale/Chicago 'sets'[Illini or  Saluki (?) ] It is a faily new Charger.  

Didn't notice the train into well into the video...  ;-)

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 2:29 PM

afternoon

Ns was clear when we left work.Chores to do.Getting stuff ready to take to Lenten meal tonight.Guessers warm up cooled down a bit.

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Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 2:34 PM

Bad accident today - farm tractor lost control on the road and flipped onto its side, trapping one occupant.  We had to use the "Jaws" to get him out, but he ended up succumbing to his injuries.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:04 PM

OK! You guys! [Larry and Johnny]... Those were the first close ups of any of the Charger's I'd seen Bang Head.. I just though that maybe you guys would wonder what rock ballast would look like in Carbondale. Smile, Wink & Grin

   The engineer is an old friend, His current regular gig is the IDOT's 391 Saluki and 392 Illini, and when he goes back and forth to Memphis, 59 or 58 CNO ..

 

 


 

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:34 PM

   Larry, speaking of farm tractors, I think you have to be at least a little crazy to drive one.   Many years ago my brother-in-law had me drive a tractor with a plow on his farm.   I was perched high up on a bicycle seat inches away from two giant heavy knobby tires, and with every bump or dip in the ground I thought we were going to tip over.   That was about the scariest ride ever.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:44 PM

Johnny, these locomotives are relatively new, within the last couple of years.  There are similar units working in California.  I only wish the trains were a little more consistent in appearance.  

As for the lettering, I have no doubt that it's vinyl adhesive.  Easy enough to repair, or, sadly, to vandalize.

One commenter on the video noted the acceleration from a dead stop.  That will do these units well on the lines in Michigan and to St. Louis. They are capable of the 110 m.p.h. that is anticipated (or being delivered) on those lines.  I would love to be pushed back into my seat by the departure from some of these stations!

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 10:22 PM

samfp1943
(CShaveRR) Carl: Sort of off topic, but I know you seem to search, for the 'unusual'.   Here is a you tube video of one of the Carbondale/Chicago 'sets'[Illini or  Saluki (?) ] It is a faily new Charger.   Note the mis-spelling of AMTRAK on the side of the engine. That and the weird mix of the AMTRAK cars in the train.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCrfONtvAs

Is the 'rag tag' appearance of the train a consequence of UP requiring 7 cars (which seems to include 3 dead cars, the two baggage cars bracketing the Amfleet I).

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, March 21, 2019 9:13 AM

Right reason (most likely), wrong railroad.  That's CN that does that, and serves the route of the Illini and Saluki (let's hope the City of New Orleans is always big enough!).

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:43 AM

CShaveRR
Right reason (most likely), wrong railroad.  That's CN that does that, and serves the route of the Illini and Saluki (let's hope the City of New Orleans is always big enough!).

I read somewhere, the UP was requiring 7 cars in addition to CN.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:19 AM

CShaveRR

Johnny, these locomotives are relatively new, within the last couple of years.  There are similar units working in California.  I only wish the trains were a little more consistent in appearance.  

As for the lettering, I have no doubt that it's vinyl adhesive.  Easy enough to repair, or, sadly, to vandalize.

One commenter on the video noted the acceleration from a dead stop.  That will do these units well on the lines in Michigan and to St. Louis. They are capable of the 110 m.p.h. that is anticipated (or being delivered) on those lines.  I would love to be pushed back into my seat by the departure from some of these stations!

 

Thanks, Carl. 

I expect to be in Chicago 7 May--leaving on the Cardinal (eat in a dinette)--and coming back 16 May, coming back from Boston--I hope to get to Brunswick this time.

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Posted by Deggesty on Thursday, March 21, 2019 11:23 AM

Oh, yes, Sam--we were all wondering if the ballast there makes good footing.Laugh

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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, March 21, 2019 1:48 PM

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CShaveRR
Right reason (most likely), wrong railroad.  That's CN that does that, and serves the route of the Illini and Saluki (let's hope the City of New Orleans is always big enough!).

 

I read somewhere, the UP was requiring 7 cars in addition to CN.

 

7 Cars = equivilent high speed shunt?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, March 21, 2019 2:28 PM

afternoon

Busy times after work.Ns had mixed freights each way and the local was coming up the siding.Chores to do here.Might watch some basketball too.Tomorrow is Friday!!!

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Thursday, March 21, 2019 4:53 PM

Hadn't known about the UP's shunting requirements.  Those should have been a moot point in Illinois with the rebuilding of the track for most of the distance from Joliet to St. Louis.  Or could it be that CN requires the St. Louis trains to have that many cars over Chicago to Joliet?

Johnny, you're pencilled in; we'll see what happens closer to the time.  We may be in Michigan for the later one.  Medical procedures will have to take precedence...the PSA is still creeping up again.

I took a walk to the Post Office and back today (about 3.5 miles, half of which is along the tracks).  I saw two scoots and one westbound manifest freight of good size that was clearly identifiable as a North Platte train by cars in the consist.  I hope that's significant in regard to the flooding problems.  I would dearly love to have been able to ride the old CNW into Omaha and back during this detour session, but I can't fit it in.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, March 22, 2019 2:30 PM

afternoon

Ns was clear when I left work.Not many people at work today must have spring fever or march madness.On vacation next week.Have college visits and hopefully some trainwatching too.We'll see what Matt's schedule looks like.Hoping co workers team can win the basketball title in Columbus.Chores to do.

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Joe

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Posted by blhanel on Friday, March 22, 2019 6:41 PM

Sorry if it was Cincinnati-

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Posted by mudchicken on Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:14 AM

Oh well, the tree sloths (what bearcats really are) did better than the original expectation. The "other" school did in the other Iowa school. (I went to both schools, so I guess the day was a draw against Iowa)....The other Cincinnati school (NKU) in the initial 64 put up a game effort, but came up short.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:58 PM

evening

Went south with Sis.Did see a few trains.I wasn't driving but I did see one crossing the Miami river in Dayton.On the way home I noticed a couple of them stopped on CSX.Also saw a few cars that might have a visit due to condition from a patrol officer.Sis wanted to make dishes for Matt so that's where we had supper.Going to relax.

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Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:12 PM

afternoon

Took brother out today.Saw both csx and NS at work at SDI in Butler Indiana.Also saw a B43 local go west as well.NS sent a 17 N west and it had a BN green"Mookie" unit.Haven't seen one of those in a long time.Then NS sent an eastbound with UP on the point and plenty of "Deere's" on the back.Brother liked that train.Time for Matt to go do dishes.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Sunday, March 24, 2019 1:39 PM

mudchicken
BaltACD
CShaveRR
Right reason (most likely), wrong railroad.  That's CN that does that, and serves the route of the Illini and Saluki (let's hope the City of New Orleans is always big enough!).

I read somewhere, the UP was requiring 7 cars in addition to CN.

7 Cars = equivilent high speed shunt?

The UP and former IC lines must have an older signal system, or older equipment at some crossings. 

VIA Rail runs short (2 or 3 car) trains at 90+ mph on a daily basis in southern Ontario.   This is also in straight CTC territory, no PTC, cab signals or automatic train control of any kind, so we Canadians must be nuts.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, March 25, 2019 5:24 PM

evening

Well Matt got his background check for his trip and we got other errands ran.Was able to watch CSX this afternoon.The local had a problem with the switch for the ND&W.The couldn't find a maintainer so the took the cars and went back to Garrett.I hope Manville doesn't run out of sand.More fun stuff for tomorrow.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:34 AM

Hi

Got to see CSX w001 checking things out this morning.Also talked to a maintainer about the switch for the ND&W.J 715 was coming in town when I came home.Have errands to do this afternoon.Matt gets to do dishes tonight.

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Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 5:47 PM

evening

Went for a college visit today.Was able to spend the morning at Vickers east of downtown Toledo.Ns was busy running trains.This held up csx's W 001 and a sperry truck on CSX.We also got to have lunch with our former pastor.Matt really liked the campus.There is also an Ns branch that goes to an elevator in Michigan that cuts right through the campus.Going to relax.Tomorrow is opening day in Cincinnati.Hope everyone can stay dry.

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Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, March 28, 2019 8:53 AM

Morning

Damp day here in Nw Ohio.Saw a video of a semi hitting the back of a school bus near here.The bus driver and kids were not hurt.Didn't hear about the truck driver.On Deshlers cam saw lifeflight land and take someone after an accident.These put my running errands and getting new lamps as not such a big deal.Going to watch the opening day parade and hope the home team wins.Matt gets to do dishes tonight.

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Joe

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