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Posted by Princeton Jct. Yardmaster on Monday, June 26, 2017 8:40 PM

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I picked up my first issue of Trains magazine (June 1967 issue) 50 years and a few days ago, spotting it when picking up the June '67 issue of MR (June 1964 was my first issue of MR). The cover photo of a GG-1 was what first attracted my attention, but the article that made the biggest impact was the one on the D&H high pressure compounds. My next issue was May 1968 and I really got hooked with the June 1968 issue (Steffee Speed Survey), started collecting back issues shortly after and have been a subscriber since January 1970 (age 15 at the time).

 

My first issue of Trains was the September 1950 issue, which was given to me by a neighbor, along with another 12 or so issues stretching up to 1952.  I devoured them.  My next contact with Trains was when I was 12 and my mother, knowing my interest in railroading, purchased the March 1959 issue to keep me occupied during a brief illness.  It was a low point in Northeast railroading, and I was absolutely enthralled by David P. Morgan's optimism and great prose on the industry.  I started buying most issues at the local hobby shop on my own.  But the thing that really hooked me was the February 1963 issue.  There were two articles that grabed me: "Stuart Saunders and His Money Making Machine," and "Railroading Needs a New  Price Tag," by Herb Harwood.  I knew at that point I wanted a career in railroad management and I needed to get subscription to Trains.  I mean how many teenagers have Stuart Saunders as a childhood hero?  Of course laterI learned my "hero" had feet of clay!

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Posted by desertdog on Monday, June 26, 2017 2:26 PM

My first copy had to be 1947 or thereabouts. My father would buy it at the local office supply store. I remember TRAINS offered a lifetime subscription for $50. Despite my pleading, I was politely turned down--that was a huge sum at the time, but 70 years later, it would have been quite a bargain!

 

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Posted by BLS53 on Saturday, June 24, 2017 7:17 PM

Chanute closed in 1993 I believe. In it's final years it's main role was as a school for aviation weather forecasters, for both the Air Force and Navy.

They established a nice little aviation museum there after closure. A hangar full of old Cold War birds. But they couldn't make a go of it, and the airplanes were moved to other museums.

The airfield is still open as a civilian airport.

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, June 24, 2017 5:52 PM

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...at the corner drug store.

 

Other than the chains, those are getting pretty scarce, too.

Many of my early purchases of railroad magazines were at the bookstore at Chanute AFB (the base is now closed), or at the "Slot and Wing Hobby Shop" just outside the gate in Rantoul.  Some of those may not have survived the moves since, especially while I was still in USAF.

 

Chanute?  Maybe you were there while I was at U of I down US 45?

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Posted by erikem on Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:05 PM

Mike: No regrets is a pretty safe assumption. Picked a lot of tidbits on civil, electrical, mechanical and petroleum engineering along business practices, economics and law.

Bob: Polish/Assyrian is a pretty interesting mix, met some Assyrians running "The Real Texas BBQ" across the street from MCAS Miramar and they were a friendly bunch.

My now late father-in-law was a charter subscriber to Trains and he gave me the first three volumes that he had bound himself. A couple of pictures stood out from the first volume: The LARy car "Descanso" which I've seen on display at OERM and the Timber Transfer crane on the East Broad Top which was in the June 1967 issue of MR (article on the Sugar River & Ridgefield track plan). The next two volumes were a bit weird to read as wartime censorship limited what could be published.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Friday, June 23, 2017 6:36 AM

[quote user="erikem"]

I picked up my first issue of Trains magazine (June 1967 issue) 50 years and a few days ago, spotting it when picking up the June '67 issue of MR (June 1964 was my first issue of MR). The cover photo of a GG-1 was what first attracted my attention, but the article that made the biggest impact was the one on the D&H high pressure compounds. My next issue was May 1968 and I really got hooked with the June 1968 issue (Steffee Speed Survey), started collecting back issues shortly after and have been a subscriber since January 1970 (age 15 at the time).

 

1970, got ya by 3 years. Not much for magazines then, busy playing base guitar in a rock band and VERY interested in a Polish/Assyrian girl, 5'7", with long dark hair and well you the idea. Didn't get back to trains until the late 70's then three kids started to show up in 1980, so, reset to trains in 1986 and have been hooked since.

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Posted by saguaro on Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:27 PM

I am at 45 years. I starting to read Trains every month starting in 1972. Been a subscriber for most of those years, though I missed a few years in my early married days.

Regarding the art and poems mentioned here, I thought I remembered a brief story explaining that the ads were placed by the daughter in honor of her mother, who had passed away. The mother loved trains and did the drawings and poetry.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:55 AM

Let me be the first to say, "congratulations." 

After this long, I assume you have no regrets.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:17 AM

BLS53
...at the corner drug store.

Other than the chains, those are getting pretty scarce, too.

Many of my early purchases of railroad magazines were at the bookstore at Chanute AFB (the base is now closed), or at the "Slot and Wing Hobby Shop" just outside the gate in Rantoul.  Some of those may not have survived the moves since, especially while I was still in USAF.

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Posted by erikem on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:00 AM

I know what you mean. My first issue was bought at a smoke shop/newstand in Carson City and the next few issue I bought (starting almost a year later) were bought at the Whistle Stop in uptown San Diego. OTOH, my first few issues of MR were bought at the Vons in Thousand Oaks (pop. about 13,000 at that time).

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Posted by BLS53 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 8:58 PM

One thing that's changed today is finding special interest magazines, like Trains, at the corner drug store. The only place I ever see them is at the big chain book stores like Barnes and Noble. Newsstands in general are a dying breed. 

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Posted by RME on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:15 PM

NKP guy
Please tell me you mean via motorcycles, not bicycles.

Why?  When I was 12 I routinely biked nearly that far to get to my 'usual' hobby shop ... then went home balancing what often were bulky packages.

Of course, that was a different age, then.  I wouldn't let my kids do that now.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:53 PM

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:42 PM

tree68

 

 
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 One of the most unusual features in its pages a few years ago was the series of poems, written by a lady, about certain locomotives.  

 

I remember those.  There was discussion about them, but as I recall, she wasn't real public about it, aside from the poems.  I recall perhaps something of an homage due to a family member?

 

      The lady's name was Diane S Segal ( The ads, artwork and poetry) were apparently, done to honor her Mother Dorothy M. Segal.

The adds ran monthly for about a year.(2007 ?)

The author paid for the full page 'ad', and all the "Why's" "Whererfores" and Who is's.." were then, and are now, still a mystery.  It was driving people nuts with questions, and no one seemed to be able to pin it down...

 There were all sorts of speculations.. 'Mother and Daugher, were AMTRAK Engineers' ( on Trainorders(?).

Due to the 'heavy' C&O Content of her work , some tied her to a C&O 'family connection' (?).

Some 'enjoyed her works' and poetry, and there were the folks that 'panned it'.

IT is, apparently THE ONE MYSTERY on TRAINS that has stood the test of time? In a day and time when the press is accused of all sorts of transgressions;Grumpy

  The Staff and management of TRAINS and Kalmbach have kept this one in a lock box.Whistling

Linked here is one of the Threads about Daine S. Segal and her ads

@http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/101356/1197547.aspx

And I stand by my comment then: Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:49 PM

  NW_611 wrote:

Well, I like the prose, and I don't mind the presence of the things. Sooner or later we'll find out that these ads were actually a secret means of communication with parties unknown. You know, "The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache."

The mystery of it all is part of the fun. I look forward to them every month and will sort of miss them when/if they stop running.

 

" When the story on these full page ads comes out--and it will, eventually.

     It will make for interesting reading. Googling either name Diane or Dorothy Segal seems to be a dead end; except for the mention of Diane's stories for the C&O Historical Society publcation, there is  a dearth of information. What is interesting is the amount of interest that this series of full page 'ads' has generated..."

 

 


 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:23 PM

I'm just a beginner compared to some of you gents.  I didn't get my first copy of "Trains" (and "Model Railroader" for that matter) until 1989, when the train bug bit me and bit me hard!

My first issue had a magnificent article by Steve Lee on running the 3985, well written and very informative, with a little self-deprecating remark from Steve...

"I don't consider myself an experienced steam engineer, just a lucky one!"

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Posted by NKP guy on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 2:51 PM

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My bro and I used to bike 25 miles into town just to hit the newstand and pickup Trains, Railroad Mag, Railfan, and Rail Classics. And the various model mags too. 

 

  Please tell me you mean via motorcycles, not bicycles.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:34 PM

tree68

 

 
NKP guy
 One of the most unusual features in its pages a few years ago was the series of poems, written by a lady, about certain locomotives.  

 

I remember those.  There was discussion about them, but as I recall, she wasn't real public about it, aside from the poems.  I recall perhaps something of an homage due to a family member?

 

I remember the poetry, also, and I do recall that they were in homage to someone in her family.

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Posted by Ulrich on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:57 PM

My bro and I used to bike 25 miles into town just to hit the newstand and pickup Trains, Railroad Mag, Railfan, and Rail Classics. And the various model mags too. 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 12:53 PM

NKP guy
 One of the most unusual features in its pages a few years ago was the series of poems, written by a lady, about certain locomotives.  

I remember those.  There was discussion about them, but as I recall, she wasn't real public about it, aside from the poems.  I recall perhaps something of an homage due to a family member?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:59 AM

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My first issue of MR featured John Allen's well done GD line. That one came from Anderson's Book Store in Florence, Ala.The first issue of Trains I ever saw was in the Family Hobby Center in Clarksville TN in 1969. It had an article called "An Unadulterated Railroad" on the cover.

 
I've got that one.  The unadulterated railroad was the Reserve Mining Company's private intraplant railroad in Minnesota.
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Posted by overall on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:31 AM

My first issue of MR featured John Allen's well done GD line. That one came from Anderson's Book Store in Florence, Ala.The first issue of Trains I ever saw was in the Family Hobby Center in Clarksville TN in 1969. It had an article called "An Unadulterated Railroad" on the cover.

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Posted by NKP guy on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:18 AM

   I'm fifty-five years a reader of Trains, about forty as a subscriber.

   One of the most unusual features in its pages a few years ago was the series of poems, written by a lady, about certain locomotives.  Often an entire page would be bought (by whom?) and two or three poems would be published.  As poems I found them not very graceful, but the fact that a female could rhapsodize about both steam and diesel engines got my attention; I read 'em all.

   Whatever happened to her?  Was this another case of a kind husband allowing his wife to think she's the Florence Foster Jenkins of the Arts of Euterpe?

 

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Posted by 54light15 on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 9:05 AM

I've been reading Trains since the early 1970s. One thing I've noticed is that there is a lot more advertising aimed at professionals. Western-Cullen-Hayes and the like. I do recall in older issues ads for super-8 films- does anyone still have and watch those? 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, June 20, 2017 7:10 AM

The first issue I purchased was in July 1965, with articles about NYC suburban service and the conversion of the Monarch Branch to standard gauge.  "News and Editorial Comment" led off with a write-up on the introduction of the 645 engine by EMD. Nine new domestic locomotive models were introduced with the 645.

I purchased a few issues irregularly after that and started buying regularly with the November 1967 issue.  I haven't missed an issue since that date.

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Posted by SALfan on Monday, June 19, 2017 10:36 PM

Picked up my first issue of Trains in June, 1979 (assume it was the June issue), and started subscribing within 3 months.  Have missed a few issues as subscriptions expired or for other reasons, but still have all those I've received.  Hard to believe it has been 38 years. 

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Monday, June 19, 2017 9:26 PM

I got my start reading my dads copies which he had. He started buying it in 1942 when we lived in Milwaukee and kept all of them. Mr. Lalmbach was the puplisher then. Dad wrote six articles under a pen name as at that time he worked for a railroad and didn't want to create any problems. So when I left home in the early 60's I got my own subscription. 

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, June 19, 2017 8:12 PM

BLS53
Didn't the publisher of RMC have a magazine similar to Trains at one point?

Carstens.  Railfan, I think, which then became Railfan & Railroad.

The line has been taken over by White River Productions.

R&R and Trains have slightly different approaches to covering the railroads.  I get both.

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Posted by BLS53 on Monday, June 19, 2017 5:23 PM

tree68

I've got most of the issues of Trains (not to mention MR, RMC, Firehouse, and several other rail and fire magazines) I've ever acquired.  They sure take up a lot of space!

It is interesting to reach into one of the files and pick out an old issue.  

 

 

Didn't the publisher of RMC have a magazine similar to Trains at one point?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, June 19, 2017 5:21 PM

My inro was First with Model Railroader in the Summer of 1955. I bought it from a drug store newsstand, somewhere around Harrisburg, Pa.   We were moving from Memphis, to Milton, Ma. Bought it spasmodically, for several years, while living in Tulsa, and when we moved back to Memphis,

   I was in HS school, and working part time in a Hobby Shop.. I had both MR and Trains. ( probably about 1957?). Since, then I've been a regular purchaser of Trains,(subscriber since about 1960?) and occcasionally, MR. 

Hard to believe , it's been as long as it has....  One of my favorite MR's was the announcement of the lifetime subscription for $50.00 Sigh .

  Talk about a missed opportunity! Bang Head 

 Maybe.....TRAINS, might do that sometime????? Whistling [Just dreaming!] CryingCrying

 

 


 

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