There were TWO versions of this car.This is the Churchill Car.http://imagescn.techno-science.ca/railways/index_choice.cfm?id=61&photoid=2138709623 Thank You.
OT.Not that far away is Prince of Wales Fort constructed in the 1700s.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Wales_Fort Churchill in distance.http://polarhorizons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/MG_0666_web.jpghttp://c8.alamy.com/comp/F960TE/aerial-view-of-prince-of-wales-fort-an-18th-century-hudsons-bay-company-F960TE.jpg https://www.google.ca/maps/@58.7879939,-94.2064468,6598m/data=!3m1!1e3 Amazing!!!
Thank You
Miningman Rails have been removed to Lynn Lake. The Keewatin Railway goes as far North as a place called Pulatawagan about 160 MILES North from The Pas.
Rails have been removed to Lynn Lake. The Keewatin Railway goes as far North as a place called Pulatawagan about 160 MILES North from The Pas.
This is where government ownership would have made sense. The North has so much in the way of resources and of course the Bay. I remember back in the 80s when the The Pas was a busy CN hub, with ore coming in from the mine in Flin Flon and general freight coming up from Winnipeg for distribution throughout the North.
I believe that the Churchill line was the last route in North America on which grain was still shipped in boxcars, mostly because the line couldn't support the greater weight of covered hoppers.
Miningman My fear here is that they give up on the railroad entirely. Omnitrax has it up for sale. Native groups, First Nations, are negotiating to purchase. That would be just fine with me as the Federal Government would them throw a lot of money that way, assist with loans, to upgrade the track. It is essential, vital, we keep the Port of Churchill as a viable option and railservice continue along into this wilderness. First Nations have now purchased, own entirely and run 2 railroads In Canada. They already purchased one of them from Omnitrax and is now the Keewatin Railway, the other an iron ore operation in Quebec. Plus they partner/work with VIA on a passenger train departing from the Pas on a branch line up to the Lynn Lake area. They seem to be doing OK. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one because we have lost far far too much. We do a disservice to history and visionary thinking, not to mention the future if we continue to strip bare and run assets into the ground in order to satisfy a few uber wealthy investors.
My fear here is that they give up on the railroad entirely.
Omnitrax has it up for sale. Native groups, First Nations, are negotiating to purchase. That would be just fine with me as the Federal Government would them throw a lot of money that way, assist with loans, to upgrade the track.
It is essential, vital, we keep the Port of Churchill as a viable option and railservice continue along into this wilderness.
First Nations have now purchased, own entirely and run 2 railroads In Canada. They already purchased one of them from Omnitrax and is now the Keewatin Railway, the other an iron ore operation in Quebec. Plus they partner/work with VIA on a passenger train departing from the Pas on a branch line up to the Lynn Lake area. They seem to be doing OK.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one because we have lost far far too much.
We do a disservice to history and visionary thinking, not to mention the future if we continue to strip bare and run assets into the ground in order to satisfy a few uber wealthy investors.
The upkeep must be terrible on the Churchill Line re the climate, even if no trains are run at all.If there ARE viable resources that might need to be accessed at a later date, possibly just leave it in place as Railbanked I think the term is. Doubt the whole route will become a Spandex Hike and Bike Back to Nature route for a little while? ( The Kat just choked a bit over that in a visual he had. )Another story about the Kat, later. Maybe thats why CNR took back the line to Hay River/Pine Point Jct. in case they DO build the pipeline down the Mackenzie??OT.What happened to the Lynn Lake Line? Is it still there, or was it lifted? Quote.In 1953 the CNR extended a branch line from Cranberry Portage to Lynn Lake.Unquote. There is film footage of the first CNR train into Lynn Lake w one of their A1A CLC/FM roadswitchers.Example.http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cnr_diesel/7617.jpg Moving the town.http://www.kingofobsolete.ca/Don's_pictures_on_Webpage.htmA drunk I know was having a fling in Puk, and was lucky to escape with his life.Fifty years of Booze, Abortions, Abuse and Jail.Trail of Years, Beers, and Tears.Messy killing in The Pas c. 1971. One of the dudes later lived here, and passed away a few years back.Thank You
Data Hudson Bay Railway 1929.
Thank You Sir!!
The article answered a question I had in the back of my mind!!
Account the COLD, did they have to ' Haul ' water for locomotives and such from the South, the answer being 136 miles North to Churchill.
Just as dry as a desert, in a different way.
Presume might apply to other Railways operating in the North, worldwide.
Steam was a REAL pain in the A. In the Hot deserts and the Cold.
No Condenser Engines need apply for the Churchill Run. Altho' ??
Turbine for the Draft.
The VIA train is currently not operating into Churchill. I believe the train is running Winnipeg-The Pas ( pronounced the "Paw"). Not safe travel continuing on north. There are some permafrost problems between The Pas and a place called Hudson's Bay ( not the port).
Normally train runs Tues, Thirs, Sat from Churchill Tues, Sun. From Winnipeg.
The equipment sure as heck is stranded. Crews may have been flown out or perhaps live in Churchill.
The train has been suspended a number of times due to bad track conditions and problems with permafrost.
If VIA cars there does that mean a Via train stranded there along with its crew ?
It's lovely up there in the Spring.. and summer. all of Northern Manitoba is one of the best kept secrets going..
MiningmanWanswheel- Can you image how they did this in 1929? Food, communication, power, heat, and on and on. It must have been gruelling, daunting and demanding. These guys were made of some kind of stern stuff. Electroliner 1935- I detest cliches so I have to bite my lip and say "put this trip on your bucket list"...get a sleeper on VIA up to Churchill and see the Polar Bears and the Arctic Watershed. PS- Wait until the summer.
Electroliner 1935- I detest cliches so I have to bite my lip and say "put this trip on your bucket list"...get a sleeper on VIA up to Churchill and see the Polar Bears and the Arctic Watershed.
PS- Wait until the summer.
Don't think I want to celebrate the Spring Equinox in Churchill.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Wanswheel- Can you image how they did this in 1929? Food, communication, power, heat, and on and on. It must have been gruelling, daunting and demanding. These guys were made of some kind of stern stuff.
I am impressed by the videos. Keith, thanks for the very descriptive videos. Hope the Via Cars were on shore power and not freezing up. Video shows the drifts and the depth graphically. Hope you can keep your toes from freezing and your camera also.
It seems the very first train to Churchill arrived in April 1929.
https://archive.org/stream/annualdept4s192930cana#page/n903/mode/2up
https://archive.org/stream/annualdept4s192930cana#page/n1025/mode/2up
Note the VIA equipment at the station...ex CPR Budd built ...even a dome observation...guess #693 and 690 were not running for a while or food supplies could have come in that way.
1700 Km's in 2 days journey. Heck of a train.
I sent a truck into Churchill a few years back.. My last words to the driver (a Texan) were "watch out for the bears". A couple of days later he arrived and called.."you weren't kidding about the bears!!!.there are polar bears walking behind where I'm delivering!!!!".. Got to love Churchill.
CBC News Posted: Mar 20, 2017 8:33 PM CT Last Updated: Mar 20, 2017 8:33 PM CT
Carrots and milk are finally back on the shelves of the grocery store in the remote northern Manitoba community of Churchill after two major blizzards kept trains filled with supplies away for weeks.
"[The train] came in some time this afternoon and the Northern Store extended its hours to accommodate any community members," said Shane Hutchins, Churchill's deputy mayor.
OmniTrax, the Denver-based company that owns the rail line that brings supplies into Churchill, cleared the tracks and a train with supplies departed around noon Monday from the northern Manitoba town of Gillam, about 270 kilometres southeast of Churchill.
Keith McDougall watched the train roll in and went to the store after. He said he figures that it was reloaded with produce at some point because the vegetables hitting the shelves looked fresh, not like they'd been sitting on a train for weeks.
"There were pallets all over the place and staff pulling stuff out and putting it on the shelves," McDougall wrote in an email to CBC. "Even as we were at the checkout [we noticed], 'Oh look, they just put carrots out!"
Milk was also a hot ticket item for the residents crowding into the store, he said.
Before the train arrived, there was no bread or vegetables for sale and meat products were scarce. Hutchins said while Churchill residents are prepared for blizzards, have deep freezes and help each other out, but with two blizzards in two weeks, there was concern.
"Usually we get a weekly train in from the south, but with the blizzards that we have been having, we hadn't had one since March 1," he said.
Churchill declared a state of emergency after a three-day-blizzard blanketed the community, shutting down some essential service.
On Monday morning, the town was confronted with near-zero visibility and strong wind gusts of 90 to 100 km/h. A low pressure system over Hudson Bay also brought wind chill values as low as -40 C. The wild weather calmed down later in the day but Hutchins said it will still be two weeks before the community is truly back to typical weather conditions.
Hutchins said an airplane delivery with more cargo and food is expected on Wednesday and another train may also be headed to the community on Friday.
Keith McDougall watched the train roll into Churchill and went to the local grocery store to get fresh produce. (Keith McDougall/submitted)
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