schlimm RME schlimm In thine opinion. Not mine; academic authorities on English grammar. Since when is the Wiktionary "academic authority"? Laughable! I suppose I should have said "Also sprach Euclithustra" or, in keeping with the 1891 translation of Nietzsche's work, "Thus Spake Euclithustra"? I can't help thinking that "Buckythustra" has a bit more bite, and that there is an appropriate pun on one of the other handles we think he has used. On that I agree. "Buckythustra" is fertile pun ground with numerous possibilities. And spaketh/spoke/sprach might be more contextually correct as "Thus Circumlocuteth Buckythustra"? T I'm just playin' As was I. Arcane word games can be fun.
RME schlimm In thine opinion. Not mine; academic authorities on English grammar. Since when is the Wiktionary "academic authority"? Laughable! I suppose I should have said "Also sprach Euclithustra" or, in keeping with the 1891 translation of Nietzsche's work, "Thus Spake Euclithustra"? I can't help thinking that "Buckythustra" has a bit more bite, and that there is an appropriate pun on one of the other handles we think he has used. On that I agree. "Buckythustra" is fertile pun ground with numerous possibilities. And spaketh/spoke/sprach might be more contextually correct as "Thus Circumlocuteth Buckythustra"? T I'm just playin' As was I. Arcane word games can be fun.
schlimm In thine opinion.
Not mine; academic authorities on English grammar.
I suppose I should have said "Also sprach Euclithustra" or, in keeping with the 1891 translation of Nietzsche's work, "Thus Spake Euclithustra"?
I can't help thinking that "Buckythustra" has a bit more bite, and that there is an appropriate pun on one of the other handles we think he has used.
On that I agree. "Buckythustra" is fertile pun ground with numerous possibilities. And spaketh/spoke/sprach might be more contextually correct as "Thus Circumlocuteth Buckythustra"?
T
I'm just playin'
As was I. Arcane word games can be fun.
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
BaltACD schlimm On a more serious note, relating to Medicare and maybe later to Social Security: Ryan on Medicare If only Ryan could get us old phoggies to die off quicker
schlimm On a more serious note, relating to Medicare and maybe later to Social Security: Ryan on Medicare
Ryan on Medicare
If only Ryan could get us old phoggies to die off quicker
These days best be careful what you wish for!!
C&NW, CA&E, MILW, CGW and IC fan
schlimmOn a more serious note, relating to Medicare and maybe later to Social Security: Ryan on Medicare
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
On a more serious note, relating to Medicare and maybe later to Social Security:
Yes, the "eth" ending is the third person singular present ending. Now, we simply add the letter "s" for the same purpose.
Johnny
schlimm RME schlimm spaketh "Nonstandard, pseudo-archaic, hypercorrect". And not really at all amusing. (And you were the one being snotty about 'pavane' while misspelling that, too?) Just go ahead and use the actual, real, correct conjugation if you want to make the parallel with Nietzsche or Strauss. We'll all be better for it. In thine opinion. Poetic license. I suppose I should have said "Also sprach Euclithustra" or, in keeping with the 1891 translation of Nietzsche's work, "Thus Spake Euclithustra"? The "pavane" thing. Still boiling over with resentment?
RME schlimm spaketh "Nonstandard, pseudo-archaic, hypercorrect". And not really at all amusing. (And you were the one being snotty about 'pavane' while misspelling that, too?) Just go ahead and use the actual, real, correct conjugation if you want to make the parallel with Nietzsche or Strauss. We'll all be better for it.
schlimm spaketh
"Nonstandard, pseudo-archaic, hypercorrect". And not really at all amusing. (And you were the one being snotty about 'pavane' while misspelling that, too?)
Just go ahead and use the actual, real, correct conjugation if you want to make the parallel with Nietzsche or Strauss. We'll all be better for it.
In thine opinion. Poetic license. I suppose I should have said "Also sprach Euclithustra" or, in keeping with the 1891 translation of Nietzsche's work, "Thus Spake Euclithustra"?
The "pavane" thing. Still boiling over with resentment?
schlimmIn thine opinion.
Poetic license.
You have to actually write poetically to have that license... But that was too easy a straight line.
Naaaw. It just reminded me of the circumstances. (I wonder if 'reminded me again' is actually redundant in these circumstances?)
schlimmspaketh
Euclid Ulrich schlimm CMStPnP SD70M-2Dude But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!??? Says the guy that owes his job to an American Railway Executive....lol. I don't share the gloom and doom. A large rising tide lifts all boats, even the ones with Moosehead on board. Just the opposite. Those American Railroad executives owe their jobs to all those worker bees making the railroad profitable! They need each other. Workers need entrepreneurs who start and run businesses, and businesses, of course, need workers to produce the products and services that the business sells. Nobody owes anyone anything. Its very much a symbiotic relationship. A+
Ulrich schlimm CMStPnP SD70M-2Dude But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!??? Says the guy that owes his job to an American Railway Executive....lol. I don't share the gloom and doom. A large rising tide lifts all boats, even the ones with Moosehead on board. Just the opposite. Those American Railroad executives owe their jobs to all those worker bees making the railroad profitable! They need each other. Workers need entrepreneurs who start and run businesses, and businesses, of course, need workers to produce the products and services that the business sells. Nobody owes anyone anything. Its very much a symbiotic relationship.
schlimm CMStPnP SD70M-2Dude But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!??? Says the guy that owes his job to an American Railway Executive....lol. I don't share the gloom and doom. A large rising tide lifts all boats, even the ones with Moosehead on board. Just the opposite. Those American Railroad executives owe their jobs to all those worker bees making the railroad profitable!
CMStPnP SD70M-2Dude But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!??? Says the guy that owes his job to an American Railway Executive....lol. I don't share the gloom and doom. A large rising tide lifts all boats, even the ones with Moosehead on board.
SD70M-2Dude But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!???
Says the guy that owes his job to an American Railway Executive....lol.
I don't share the gloom and doom. A large rising tide lifts all boats, even the ones with Moosehead on board.
Just the opposite. Those American Railroad executives owe their jobs to all those worker bees making the railroad profitable!
They need each other. Workers need entrepreneurs who start and run businesses, and businesses, of course, need workers to produce the products and services that the business sells. Nobody owes anyone anything. Its very much a symbiotic relationship.
A+
Most importantly, the entrepreneurs risk losing their own money to start and run a business. If the business fails, and they lose their money, the employees' loss is limited to just losing their job.
Neither the employers or the employers are victims of each other. Both have a stake in the company. If the employees don't think they are getting their share, they are free to invest and start their own company.
CMStPnP ACY For many years, the 401K option was available to Amtrak Management employees, but not Agreement covered employees. I understand the Company contributed a share to those Management 401K plans. When the option became available to Agreement employees, the Company declined to add an additional contribution to the Agreement employees' contributions. My 401K was supported 100% directly by me. I guess they weren't legally obliged to contribute anything more, but it added a little extra source of resentment to the whole mix. The people who got the matches were already making more money in the first place, and generally got to sleep almost every night in their own bed. Tom That doesn't sound legal. Are you sure they did it that way? 401 Match is to make the plan more fair between employees that cannot contribute as much AND executives who can contribute more. It's meant to balance the scales more in front of the Feds. That's the only purpose of a match. The greater the % match they give the employees the greater the Executives can contribute, generally. So I am not sure how they got around that with Executives and Managers only participating in a plan unless Managers were stipulated as Employees vs Executives.
ACY For many years, the 401K option was available to Amtrak Management employees, but not Agreement covered employees. I understand the Company contributed a share to those Management 401K plans. When the option became available to Agreement employees, the Company declined to add an additional contribution to the Agreement employees' contributions. My 401K was supported 100% directly by me. I guess they weren't legally obliged to contribute anything more, but it added a little extra source of resentment to the whole mix. The people who got the matches were already making more money in the first place, and generally got to sleep almost every night in their own bed. Tom
For many years, the 401K option was available to Amtrak Management employees, but not Agreement covered employees. I understand the Company contributed a share to those Management 401K plans. When the option became available to Agreement employees, the Company declined to add an additional contribution to the Agreement employees' contributions. My 401K was supported 100% directly by me. I guess they weren't legally obliged to contribute anything more, but it added a little extra source of resentment to the whole mix. The people who got the matches were already making more money in the first place, and generally got to sleep almost every night in their own bed.
Tom
That doesn't sound legal. Are you sure they did it that way? 401 Match is to make the plan more fair between employees that cannot contribute as much AND executives who can contribute more. It's meant to balance the scales more in front of the Feds. That's the only purpose of a match. The greater the % match they give the employees the greater the Executives can contribute, generally.
So I am not sure how they got around that with Executives and Managers only participating in a plan unless Managers were stipulated as Employees vs Executives.
There is no requirement for employers to match contributions. Most, but not all, usually do. As an agreement employee, my 401(k) contribution is not matched. I believe non-agreement employee contributions are matched.
Having the company match 401(k) was a suggestion for the latest round of contract negotiations. I don't know if it made it the cut or not.
Jeff
Euclid A+
Thus spaketh the corporatists.
A few years ago we had a RRB representative at a union meeting. She said RRT was safe for the forseeable future, barring any massive job losses. The biggest threat to Railroad Retirement will be the loss of those paying in when the carriers begin pushing for one person crews. Over all their lines, not just those equipped with PTC.
I prefer to think that we both owe our positions to the railroad's customers, a view that many executives have forgotten.
Greetings from Alberta
-an Articulate Malcontent
We've got some big ones here too.. Bombardier, Magna International, Linamar, the Irving Group, McCain Foods, are five multi billion dollar manufacturing companies that immediately come to mind . Granted, we don't have the manufacturing base that you do... our population is 10% of yours, and we're more heavily dependent on resources and services. The flow of talent runs both ways too. You sent us E Hunter Harrison.. we sent you JJ Hill (the Empire Builder).. etc.
......And a few years before they had to import American Airline Executives to fix their National Airlines that were nearing the rocks. I tried to think of the largest manufactuerer in Canada but all I come up with is Ford and General Motors and aren't they really managed from Detroit, Michigan?
Except for those who have holes in their boats.
SD70M-2DudeBut, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!???
zugmann Good chance there may be a renewed push for the end of RRT. Hope all my conservative RR bothers like their jobs - they may be doing them well into their 70s.
Good chance there may be a renewed push for the end of RRT. Hope all my conservative RR bothers like their jobs - they may be doing them well into their 70s.
But, but, but Trump will make 'Murica great again, and all will be well right!!!???
schlimmMaybe that or, if some folks get their way, privatization to benefit the financiers.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
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"A stranger's just a friend you ain't met yet." --- Dave Gardner
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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schlimm BaltACD schlimm NKP guy The RRB and teacher pensions in many states were designed to provide for retirement. SS was designed as a supplement and for most, it still is that. The systems should not be merged. I am not sure what the hidden agenda of merger proponents is, but it's not to benefit recipients. The hidden agenda is a bigger pot of gold to loot for favored pork barrell projects. Just like they have looted SS. Maybe that or, if some folks get their way, privatization to benefit the financiers.
BaltACD schlimm NKP guy The RRB and teacher pensions in many states were designed to provide for retirement. SS was designed as a supplement and for most, it still is that. The systems should not be merged. I am not sure what the hidden agenda of merger proponents is, but it's not to benefit recipients. The hidden agenda is a bigger pot of gold to loot for favored pork barrell projects. Just like they have looted SS.
schlimm NKP guy The RRB and teacher pensions in many states were designed to provide for retirement. SS was designed as a supplement and for most, it still is that. The systems should not be merged. I am not sure what the hidden agenda of merger proponents is, but it's not to benefit recipients.
NKP guy
The RRB and teacher pensions in many states were designed to provide for retirement. SS was designed as a supplement and for most, it still is that. The systems should not be merged. I am not sure what the hidden agenda of merger proponents is, but it's not to benefit recipients.
The hidden agenda is a bigger pot of gold to loot for favored pork barrell projects. Just like they have looted SS.
Maybe that or, if some folks get their way, privatization to benefit the financiers.
In any event - those covered by Railroad Retirement won't benefit.
NKP guy In 1920 teachers in Ohio united in a similar fashion to set up their own retirement system to ensure that retirees could live in dignity, if not grandeur. Like railroaders, teachers here contributed more to their retirement systems, and in turn received more benefits.
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