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Posted by Miningman on Tuesday, November 1, 2016 6:36 PM

Merge CP, BNSF and NS. and merge CN, UP, and CSX to make the two transcontinetals. Put KCS with one of them. And then, One last merger to make one Disfunctional railroad. And IT WILL be big enough to fail.- Electroliner 1935

Better yet CP-UP-NS and CN-BNSF-CSX....better corporate philosophies that fit with each other. It may come to that someday but I hope not. Be a heck of thing though. 

 
 
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Posted by blue streak 1 on Sunday, October 30, 2016 7:08 AM
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Posted by Norm48327 on Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:08 AM

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I don't know what Canadian Law says but on the U.S side they can employ and use emminent domain and take his property. The problem is the man is good with pre-emption of politicians and political contributions for influence sake. MC Station is a solid core of a building and it could be renovated still. However he is only replacing the broken glass so he can claim he stabilized the building to prevent the City of Detroit from attempting to condemn and demolish it. He will not go much further with the renovations beyond the window replacements. In effect he is maintaining an eyesore just barely in an attempt to get a hefty rehabilitation loan so he doesn't have to pay market rates for renovation and so he can extract tax concessions. Kind of like what a slum lord would do.

Moroun is an ace at buying off politicians.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:04 AM

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CMStPnP

Will that impact the haulage of coal this winter by rail and drive crude oil prices higher?

 

 

 

 

Probably. Bring it on polar vortex.. we Canadians LOVE winter. 

 

As a friend from Kitchener once told me; "Keeps my igloo from melting". Big Smile

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:24 PM

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One of the first times I crossed the Ambbassador Bridge, I asked the U.S. customs guy if it was true that one man owned the bridge. He went into a rant for a fw minutes about Matty Maroun and how the building he works out of is falling down and MM gets a million a year from the US to use his building. He also owns most of the land on both sides of the river to prevent another bridge from being built. I still find it hard to grasp that one guy can own an international border crossing. But, I understand he owns the MC station in Detroit and the last time I was there in July, there were some new windows being put in. Imagine, un-busted windows in Detroit!

I don't know what Canadian Law says but on the U.S side they can employ and use emminent domain and take his property.    The problem is the man is good with pre-emption of politicians and political contributions for influence sake.    MC Station is a solid core of a building and it could be renovated still.    However he is only replacing the broken glass so he can claim he stabilized the building to prevent the City of Detroit from attempting to condemn and demolish it.    He will not go much further with the renovations beyond the window replacements.    

In effect he is maintaining an eyesore just barely in an attempt to get a hefty rehabilitation loan so he doesn't have to pay market rates for renovation and so he can extract tax concessions.   Kind of like what a slum lord would do.

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Posted by SALfan on Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:46 PM

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I used to love ice fishing, a great excuse to drink beer!

 

I thought that was the excuse for deer hunting.  Tracking down the elusive 6 pack buck.

 

My uncle once described an afternoon spent trying to shoot doves this way: "The only fatality I caused the whole afternoon was one Old Crow, and he died a slow death." 

There were certain places my father wouldn't drive during deer season, because of all the slob hunters sitting in the road right-of-way with their guns, because they were too drunk to stand up or sit in a deer stand up in a tree. 

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Posted by SALfan on Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:33 PM

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Fine with me. Cuts both ways...all that "hot air" stays on your side! 

 

And with the politicians in Washington DC and all the state capitals on our side of the wall, the whole U.S. would be a sweatbox in less than a week.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:19 PM

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I used to love ice fishing, a great excuse to drink beer!

I thought that was the excuse for deer hunting.  Tracking down the elusive 6 pack buck.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:49 PM

Hey   54-40   or fight !

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:48 PM

I used to love ice fishing, a great excuse to drink beer!

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:42 PM

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Firelock76

I've long been an advocate of building a tall wall at 49 north to keep that damned cold Canadian air on their side of the border. Wink

And make the Canadians pay for it? Cool

That's ok with me there bud, sure will keep the ice nice'n hard for longer so we can enjoy our outdoor hockey, curling and ice fishing from september to june eh.  Don't worry we'll cut a door and leave it unlocked so you can visit too eh!  And don't be a hoser, stop by for a cold one every now and then when the game's on, brews on us!  [/canadian]

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Posted by SD70M-2Dude on Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:36 PM

CMStPnP
Miningman
Thats ok...after CN takes CSX and CP grabs NS we can buy you even more goodies!  Add Quote to your Post

Without American CEO Hunter Harrison, CN would have gone bankrupt at some point and CP was following it into the abyss....lol

Oh please don't start with that, you're conveniently forgetting Paul Tellier and all the other good Canadians who came before that crude hillbilly.

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Posted by Ulrich on Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:56 PM

CMStPnP

Will that impact the haulage of coal this winter by rail and drive crude oil prices higher?

 

 

Probably. Bring it on polar vortex.. we Canadians LOVE winter. 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:44 PM

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Hey, Lady Firestorm found a solid black wooly caterpillar this afternoon, any idea what that one is, or what it means?  We see them every year around here.

In the meantime, what say we get a workin' party together to go and weatherstrip the Canadian border, just in case?

 

 

 

  Tell her' Batten Down the Hatches'...You know when the wooly worms buy fur coats in October...They're probably expecting several Nor'easters! YeahWow

 

 

Thanks Sam, but Lady F says "Damn!  Looks like we're going snowblower shopping!"  And that was the mildest thing she said!

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:31 PM

Firelock76

Hey, Lady Firestorm found a solid black wooly caterpillar this afternoon, any idea what that one is, or what it means?  We see them every year around here.

In the meantime, what say we get a workin' party together to go and weatherstrip the Canadian border, just in case?

 

  Tell her' Batten Down the Hatches'...You know when the wooly worms buy fur coats in October...They're probably expecting several Nor'easters! YeahWow

 

 


 

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:24 PM

Hey, if Canadian Pacific brought back 2816 I wouldn't mind 'em getting Norfolk Southern, it'd show their heads are back to right-thinking!

Un-busted windows in Detroit?  I'd be even more impressed by De-troit buildings with no bullet-holes in 'em.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:44 PM

One of the first times I crossed the Ambbassador Bridge, I asked the U.S. customs guy if it was true that one man owned the bridge. He went into a rant for a fw minutes about Matty Maroun and how the building he works out of is falling down and MM gets a million a year from the US to use his building. He also owns most of the land on both sides of the river to prevent another bridge from being built. I still find it hard to grasp that one guy can own an international border crossing. But, I understand he owns the MC station in Detroit and the last time I was there in July, there were some new windows being put in. Imagine, un-busted windows in Detroit!

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:43 PM

Miningman

Well at least we could afford it! Like we have to pay for your customs/border building on the Michigan side of the new bridge because Michigan is broke. Sheesh. 

Thats ok...after CN takes CSX and CP grabs NS we can buy you even more goodies! 

 

Michigan can't afford a new customs plaza because we're spending all our bridge money fighting Matty Moroun (aka Moron) wanting a second span to the Ambassador Bridge. Big Smile

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:35 PM

Merge CP, BNSF and NS. and merge CN, UP, and CSX to make the two transcontinetals. Put KCS with one of them. And then, One last merger to make one Disfunctional railroad. And IT WILL be big enough to fail.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:20 PM

Well lets not start the war of 1812 again. Im pretty sure the longest undefended border in the world will remain that way. Its absurd to think we can control the earths weather on a gigantic scale anyway. 

I hope there are no more mergers at all. Many think we will eventually be down to 2 coast to coast railroads regardless of borders but I think it stays as is..its over. 

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Posted by CMStPnP on Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:08 PM

Miningman
Thats ok...after CN takes CSX and CP grabs NS we can buy you even more goodies!  Add Quote to your Post

Without American CEO Hunter Harrison, CN would have gone bankrupt at some point and CP was following it into the abyss....lol

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:58 PM

Well at least we could afford it! Like we have to pay for your customs/border building on the Michigan side of the new bridge because Michigan is broke. Sheesh. 

Thats ok...after CN takes CSX and CP grabs NS we can buy you even more goodies! 

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:47 PM

Norm48327
Firelock76

I've long been an advocate of building a tall wall at 49 north to keep that damned cold Canadian air on their side of the border. Wink

And make the Canadians pay for it? Cool

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:46 PM

Fine with me. Cuts both ways...all that "hot air" stays on your side!

Besides, does the weather pattern not come from the West, as in the rotation of the earth. 

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:42 PM

Firelock76
In the meantime, what say we get a workin' party together to go and weatherstrip the Canadian border, just in case?

I've long been an advocate of building a tall wall at 49 north to keep that damned cold Canadian air on their side of the border. Wink

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 3:34 PM

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In the meantime, what say we get a workin' party together to go and weatherstrip the Canadian border, just in case?

If the cold weather does like the rain did all summer, none of it will cross the border anyhow...

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:58 PM

samfp1943

 

 
schlimm

It's really ironic that the shifting (weakening) of the vortex is caused by GCC.  And increased carbon use will worsen climate change for future.

 

 

 

Prof. schlimm:Mischief

 

Check your area wooly worms and get back to us. Whistling

 "...What Is a Woolly Worm?

The woolly worm is actually the larval stage of the Isabella tiger moth, Pyrrharctia Isabella. Also known as woolly bears or banded woolly bears, these caterpillars have black bands at each end, and a band of reddish-brown in the middle. The Isabella tiger moth overwinters in the larval stage. In the fall, caterpillars seek shelter under leaf litter or other protected places.

The Legend of the Woolly Worm

According to folk wisdom, when the brown bands on fall woolly bears are narrow, it means a harsh winter is coming. The wider the brown band, the milder the winter will be. Some towns hold annual woolly worm festivals in the fall, complete with caterpillar races and an official declaration of the woolly worm's prediction for that winter..."

link frm: http://insects.about.com/od/insectfolklore/f/woolly-bears-winter.htm

 

How does that mess with the folk science if our groundhogs ate all the wooly worms?Mischief

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Posted by Firelock76 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:57 PM

Hey, Lady Firestorm found a solid black wooly caterpillar this afternoon, any idea what that one is, or what it means?  We see them every year around here.

In the meantime, what say we get a workin' party together to go and weatherstrip the Canadian border, just in case?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:36 PM

schlimm

It's really ironic that the shifting (weakening) of the vortex is caused by GCC.  And increased carbon use will worsen climate change for future.

 

Prof. schlimm:Mischief

Check your area wooly worms and get back to us. Whistling

 "...What Is a Woolly Worm?

The woolly worm is actually the larval stage of the Isabella tiger moth, Pyrrharctia Isabella. Also known as woolly bears or banded woolly bears, these caterpillars have black bands at each end, and a band of reddish-brown in the middle. The Isabella tiger moth overwinters in the larval stage. In the fall, caterpillars seek shelter under leaf litter or other protected places.

The Legend of the Woolly Worm

According to folk wisdom, when the brown bands on fall woolly bears are narrow, it means a harsh winter is coming. The wider the brown band, the milder the winter will be. Some towns hold annual woolly worm festivals in the fall, complete with caterpillar races and an official declaration of the woolly worm's prediction for that winter..."

link frm: http://insects.about.com/od/insectfolklore/f/woolly-bears-winter.htm

 

 


 

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