Trains.com

String Lining

237667 views
2937 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    September 2003
  • 21,669 posts
Posted by Overmod on Monday, June 10, 2024 9:29 PM

13' stress crack, apparently originating at the curve of the hull below the waterline, no more than a quarter inch open.  Boat had a full load of taconite; there is no wit I far whether the crack followed a weld seam.

Perhaps it's just atmospheric distortion, but the hull seems deformed in some of the images and videos..

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,019 posts
Posted by tree68 on Monday, June 10, 2024 12:15 PM

NDG
Michipicoten.

No scuttlebutt on boat sites as yet regarding exactly what happened.  Probably lucky the lake was generally calm at the time.

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, June 10, 2024 8:48 AM
NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, June 3, 2024 10:25 AM
NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:29 PM
NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Friday, May 10, 2024 7:57 PM

 

CPR Camelback on ebay.

 

 
 

Thank You.

 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Friday, May 3, 2024 12:26 AM

403 Forbidden

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • 21,669 posts
Posted by Overmod on Thursday, May 2, 2024 6:23 PM

Even in 1915 the future belonged to the jitney.  It's just become better organized since then.

As they note at the end of the story, REM is doing the same thing that Montréal Southern could have done effectively enough to survive.  But it does it differently, in different parts of the community, and at vastly greater cost than any private company could hope to expect.

I confess I miss salt-water liners, too, but I wouldn't ride them any more, let alone often enough to bring them back in some form.  Worse, I'm not sure we aren't better off not having them in their historical form.

Where much of transportation is going, especially following wretched Euro-style 'subscription' models, is rideshare for last mile, light rail or hybrid/electric bus for trunks, and autonomous light air (10-15pax size) for regional -- feeding HSR and air for longer distances, and perhaps a revival of the Pickwick Nite Coach business for less expensive optional long distance.

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Thursday, May 2, 2024 3:00 PM

 

 

The Station is still there.
 
 

 

Thank You.

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Friday, April 19, 2024 1:02 AM
FYI
 
Morrissey, Fernie and Michel was a Great Northern Railway subsidiary.
 
 
 

 

Thank You.

 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Thursday, April 18, 2024 2:19 PM
NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 7:34 PM
Retired, and TIRED.
 

Thank You, Sir.

 

  • Member since
    September 2003
  • 21,669 posts
Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, April 16, 2024 6:41 PM

Some angry commentary on RyPN about that insurance clause.  Be interesting to see what the underwriters would expect from an operating plan for that locomotive...

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, April 15, 2024 1:16 PM
  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,019 posts
Posted by tree68 on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:36 PM

I've been startled by snakes a few times, once under a switchstand I was about to use, other times in my own yard.

Fortunately, we don't have a lot of venomous snakes in NY.  The timber rattler is the most common and can be found in many places.  The Massasauga is pretty much limited to two locales (one just north of Syracuse), and the copperhead is most likely found in the Catskills.

Had a Department of Environmental Conservation office once speak at a conference I attended.  She was experienced in handling snakes, but related that one time she'd removed a small rattler from somewhere, but forgot just how flexible their jaw is as she held it behind the head.  She didn't get bitten, but did suffer a scratch that hurt significantly for a while.

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Saturday, April 13, 2024 6:20 PM
NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 7:38 PM
For the Modeller. 
 
CP 5174 P1 Twelve-Wheel Tender. Brandon 1937.
 
 
CP 5174 Eight Whl Tender. Winnipeg 1947.
 
 
 
P1.
 
 

Thank You.

 

 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, April 8, 2024 1:48 PM

 

 

The Eclipse Special.
 
Back in 1963 CPR ran an ' Eclipse Special ' out of Montreal to get into ' The Path of Totality '
 
National Film Board was on hand to film it all.
 
 
Long Ago.

 

Thank You.

 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Sunday, April 7, 2024 12:23 AM

 Thank You!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,019 posts
Posted by tree68 on Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:44 PM

NDG
Martin Mars Water Bomber.

Wasn't long ago that they were available to buy.  Forget the price tag...

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Thursday, March 28, 2024 5:47 PM
OT. FYI.
 
Martin Mars Water Bomber.
 

 

 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Monday, March 25, 2024 2:16 AM
 
FWIW?
 

 

 

  • Member since
    January 2019
  • 1,685 posts
Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, March 23, 2024 12:22 PM

BaltACD

Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds?  Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture.  The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.

Syntehetic rubber is indeed composed of petroleum products, espcially if your definition of petroleum includes natural gas and natural gas liquids. The Time-Life Science Library book, Giant Molecules, has good descriptions of the feedstocks for various polymers (i.e. plastics) and was written by someone very well versed in the field.

Most plastics are essentially hydrocarbons, often with other elements such as nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine or chlorine added. Some exceptions include Teflon (PTFE) where the hydrogen has been completely replaced by fluorine and silicone where silicon replaces much of the carbon.

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: US
  • 25,292 posts
Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, March 23, 2024 9:14 AM

Backshop
 
tree68 
BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think. 

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles. 

You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.

Isn't synthetic rubber composed of a lot of petroleum dirived compounds?  Plastics use petroleum in their manufacture.  The fractional distillation of the petroleum refining process has portions of refined petroleum being used in many manufacturing processes that one would not consider petroleum being involved in.

Never too old to have a happy childhood!

              

  • Member since
    July 2016
  • 2,631 posts
Posted by Backshop on Saturday, March 23, 2024 6:29 AM

tree68

 

 
BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.

 

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.

 

You are correct. It seems like every loss of a laker involves sloppy welding procedures where the fire then spreads to the unloading conveyor belt, which runs the length of the hold in a tunnel above the keel.

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Friday, March 22, 2024 6:50 PM
  • CP 7005 7006 CLC-FM Demo Set. Nee CLC 7005 7006.
     

    Thank You.


 

NDG
  • Member since
    December 2013
  • 1,620 posts
Posted by NDG on Wednesday, March 20, 2024 8:12 AM
FWIW.
 
When I was young CP 2816 was still in Service,  with others,  and passed the end of our street regularly.
 
CP 2816 can be seen at Time 27:30 in the following Film.
 
 
Within weeks Streetcars would be gone.
 
Steam still had a year to go.
 

Thank You.

 

  • Member since
    December 2001
  • From: Northern New York
  • 25,019 posts
Posted by tree68 on Saturday, March 16, 2024 11:10 AM

BaltACD
Black smoke would indicate petroleum involvement - I think.

I'm pretty sure the self-unloading belt is rubber for the most part, which would certainly burn quite black.  

Helped fight a fire in a boat storage facility last night (running our pumper drafting out of the St Lawrence River, well over 100,000 gallons).  Fiberglass burns pretty dirty, too.  The very black smoke could be seen for 20+ miles.

LarryWhistling
Resident Microferroequinologist (at least at my house) 
Everyone goes home; Safety begins with you
My Opinion. Standard Disclaimers Apply. No Expiration Date
Come ride the rails with me!
There's one thing about humility - the moment you think you've got it, you've lost it...

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 1,530 posts
Posted by NKP guy on Saturday, March 16, 2024 9:43 AM

Five photos & some commentary on the fire:

https://www.starbeacon.com/news/large-crowds-drawn-to-watch-ship-fire-in-ashtabula-harbor/article_96bc25b4-e2ff-11ee-9781-93dd2f347cbf.html

Ironic that the Cuyahoga caught fire...again. Rather like its namesake.

Very sad to see an old ore boat destroyed by fire. Ashtabula is where I boarded the Str. Reiss Brothers in 1967 for a summer as a deckhand.

 

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy