Minor correction, but CPR actually had 9 RS-2s. 8400-8404 were built by ALCO for service on Newport (Vermont) Division and also for local service on the "Short Line" across Maine (usually the 8404). Originally they had steam generators but lost them quite early. They were oddities in that they were not equipped with MU. The group were among the very last 244-engined locomotives on the CPR, still based in Newport.
8405-8408 were the second group, built by MLW, and initially assigned to Chapleau in northern Ontario. They were equipped with MU capability from the start.
John
Side view showing paint scheme as factory applied. Apr. 1950.
Only 5 RS2's ever on CPR roster.
Hoses attached to regulators center of locomotive and handrails are apparently air operated sanders. Early version!
RS2 Pilot!
A committee type compromise. Transportation Board requirenment for pilot to deflect debris way from under the locomotive and collective bargaining agreement for footboards extending across the locomotive.
Very early CPR paint scheme. Algoma Division.
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schlimmWell, the images I posted above on Sunday (CNS&M and assorted shadow striped hvywts) were copied and pasted.
The technical issue here is precisely WHAT you copied and pasted.
What I suspect is that you copied the URL for the picture (rather than for a site or page) and then pasted that into the 'image' tool's fields appropriately. That is not a 'hosting' issue; you're still linking to content, but directly to an individual image's resource locator.
The 'hosting' issue would arise if you had, say, right-clicked on the image and "saved it" as something either on a site or to some form of local or distributed storage as an image file (for example, a filename ending in one of the reserved image format extensions like .jpg or .png). Those are the kind of files that I don't think Kalmbach hosts or uses directly when you try to provide them in a post.
tree68 schlimm Well, the images I posted above on Sunday (CNS&M and assorted shadow striped hvywts) were copied and pasted. One was from RMC, and Kalmbach accepted that. They have survived thus far. They're still linked from an outside site. When I click on them, they open up in a new window, with the URL of the site you got them from.
schlimm Well, the images I posted above on Sunday (CNS&M and assorted shadow striped hvywts) were copied and pasted. One was from RMC, and Kalmbach accepted that. They have survived thus far.
They're still linked from an outside site. When I click on them, they open up in a new window, with the URL of the site you got them from.
My comment was simply saying the images posted that way are still there, not removed or edited. So perhaps that method avoids the problems others have encountered, i.e., it works, even if Kalmbach does not host images.
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schlimmWell, the images I posted above on Sunday (CNS&M and assorted shadow striped hvywts) were copied and pasted. One was from RMC, and Kalmbach accepted that. They have survived thus far.
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tree68 schlimm To avoid linking issues, try copying the image and pasting. Won't work. The Kalmbach sites don't host images (aside from your avatar). With all the usual caveats about copyrights, etc, one effective way to post images is to either put them on a photo site that does allow hot linking, or, if you want to post a lot of them, maybe set up your own website. Some personal websites are free, some cost a little money. I did that for a long time, then after confusion over who to pay for what (I still own two domains, but have no place to host them), I let them go. I've linked off FB, too.
schlimm To avoid linking issues, try copying the image and pasting.
Won't work. The Kalmbach sites don't host images (aside from your avatar).
With all the usual caveats about copyrights, etc, one effective way to post images is to either put them on a photo site that does allow hot linking, or, if you want to post a lot of them, maybe set up your own website. Some personal websites are free, some cost a little money.
I did that for a long time, then after confusion over who to pay for what (I still own two domains, but have no place to host them), I let them go.
I've linked off FB, too.
Well, the images I posted above on Sunday (CNS&M and assorted shadow striped hvywts) were copied and pasted. One was from RMC, and Kalmbach accepted that. They have survived thus far.
schlimmTo avoid linking issues, try copying the image and pasting.
First the picture's not there and then there it is.
http://www.railpictures.ca/upload/another-view-at-galt-showing-transition-era-railroading-a-pair-of-newer-diesels-cp-rs18-8744-and-a-4020-series-fa1-doublehead-with-p1-class-2-8-2-5147-on-a-westbound-freight-passing-the-parked-car
MiningmanThe particular photo in question went up Friday night. I always check. It disappeared Sunday afternoon. In between I copied the posting and emailed it to my self, my daughter and a retired friend. My Email still has the picture, as do the others. I would like to think RME is right in that if the moderator took it down they would send you a notice about that. Is it possible the picture is somehow "unstable" when posted on this site. Like I stated it has happened before. One time after checking it disappeared in about half an hour. The other time after a couple of days. Gremlins. Will ask my IT department guys Monday...they are a bunch of nerds. Thanks guys for your input.
I would like to think RME is right in that if the moderator took it down they would send you a notice about that.
Is it possible the picture is somehow "unstable" when posted on this site. Like I stated it has happened before. One time after checking it disappeared in about half an hour. The other time after a couple of days.
Gremlins. Will ask my IT department guys Monday...they are a bunch of nerds.
Thanks guys for your input.
In a number of cases in the past, I have hot linked a picture to a web forum from a site I have permission to view - and I think everything is fine. Other poster then comment they can't see it; I review the post and may or may not see the image - in many cases I will see a message 'do not hot link our site'. If you REALLY want to display the image, there are more options than hot linking from that site.
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MiningmanCertainly hope it's not someone playing mischief with edit.
AFAIK, editing is restricted only to the poster or moderators.
To avoid linking issues, try copying the image and pasting.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cp-rail-engineers-training-1.4046049 Thank You.
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The particular photo in question went up Friday night. I always check. It disappeared Sunday afternoon. In between I copied the posting and emailed it to my self, my daughter and a retired friend. My Email still has the picture, as do the others.
I've seen cases where a site won't allow hot-linking, no matter how you code the link. Sometimes you'll get an error message, sometimes not. Viewing the image is just fine - even copying the URL and opening it in a new window, but you can't link it.
I've been known to link an image and not check it, only to get into a thread later and discover no image in sight.
schlimmI think that happened to RME also. Maybe the source of the photo? If some reuse restrictions apply, maybe the moderators delete?
I think this was the shadow-line picture I linked from Wikipedia, and to my knowledge there is no DMCC issue with those images or any TOS policy against hotlinking.
To the extent this is a moderation issue, I suggest that the alternative, if for any reason a picture or video "has" to be deleted from a post, is to substitute a clickable URL (using the little 'chain' tool's code conventions) in its place. To my knowledge there is not, and should not be, any copyright restriction on merely providing a link to an Internet page, or content on that page, that has not been marked as proprietary.
There are restrictions of many kinds that should produce a takedown of hotlinked images -- any link, for example, to much of the content in the T1 Trust 'repository' would constitute a violation of the understanding with which that material was allowed to be accessed there. However, I think that if any image were deleted from a post here for such a reason, a moderator would PM or e-mail the poster in question and make them aware of the specific concern.
Schlimm- Well I hope that's the reason. The only time I've seen a request not to copy not paste is from the Canada Southern.com site.
Certainly hope it's not someone playing mischief with edit.
Miningman The above picture disappeared last night from my original posting Mar. 31. 3rd time this has happened to me that a photo disappears after a few days In one of my postings. So..can anyone go back and delete a photo? Not good. I do not want to try to "edit" anyone's postings, but if you can do this then that's not good at all. Otherwise, why do they disappear. Freaking me out.
The above picture disappeared last night from my original posting Mar. 31.
3rd time this has happened to me that a photo disappears after a few days In one of my postings.
So..can anyone go back and delete a photo? Not good.
I do not want to try to "edit" anyone's postings, but if you can do this then that's not good at all.
Otherwise, why do they disappear. Freaking me out.
I think that happened to RME also. Maybe the source of the photo? If some reuse restrictions apply, maybe the moderators delete?
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RME Deggesty Back in the fifties, I saw a Southern car which hadbeen repainted to resemble, at distance, a lightweight car. Close up, it was an ugly thing. Yeah, but the Silverliners were cool. I hate linking to Facebook, but here is a picture showing a detail of the added siding, which to contemporary eyes is a bit bus-like but at the time would have been quite modern enough. Electroliners and some other cars got the shadow-lining, which was cool in a different way. Even relatively close up it looked 'the way it should', at least in my opinion.
Deggesty Back in the fifties, I saw a Southern car which hadbeen repainted to resemble, at distance, a lightweight car. Close up, it was an ugly thing.
Yeah, but the Silverliners were cool. I hate linking to Facebook, but here is a picture showing a detail of the added siding, which to contemporary eyes is a bit bus-like but at the time would have been quite modern enough.
Electroliners and some other cars got the shadow-lining, which was cool in a different way. Even relatively close up it looked 'the way it should', at least in my opinion.
Electroliner, showing the striping:
Silverliners: the lead combine with full shadow striping, 2nd car only on the end.
NDG- Very enjoyable and a great read...have saved this to my library.
What a lot of information on the Hudson Bay line as being built and the first shipping season ever.
First case unloaded in England is Canadian Whiskey. Go fiqure.
Reading the accounts of the railway construction crews in tents during the winter and using dog teams for transport....whilst fighting off wolf packs and polar bears stealing their provisions...holy smokes!
1933 first ships in. Record levels of shipping each year after that. Port open six months with icebreakers. Steam powered ballast equipment keeping the track straight, dry and open.
What on earth is the problem today? What a bunch of visionless whiners we have become.
Of course we also must get a bazillion dollars for our bazillion dollaraire owners who couldn't be bothered with just millions anymore.
We could do this soooo much easier and comfortably...and safer, than those guys ever could and all they do is complain, say we can't and let it rot.
Good friggin grief. I'm going outside to give my head a shake.
Most of the above I wrote in another thread that was kind of weird and had little interest so I've reposted it here. String Lining has been an interesting thread and don't want to see it sink into oblivion.
Burlington is in Southern Ontario about 5 miles from the city of Hamilton. The coloured pictures are from Galt, a bit further to the North and West, but not too far away. They capture the transition time real well.
I'm sure this is a story that many of us are familiar with in our own ways yet the theme is basically the same.
I believe we had a good thing in place that was becoming looked upon as antiquated and unnecessary. Maybe we took it all for granted and abandoned what had been and served very well and decently for a very long time. From that day when we lost it all we lost too much.
We are the last that were there, knew it as it was. It makes you wonder if future generations can recapture it.
We lived one block from this station, went there a lot after school from grade 1 right up until I was 18...when I left for higher education to hopefully become a geologist, which by some miracle turned out successfully.
Once thing strikes me though...when people describe an idyllic place to live, or if they become wealthy, they usually cite or choose a simple place, with a small population, with apple orchards, near a lake and has an easy pace to it...rural, friendly, green and blue. No muss, no fuss, plenty to do, very fufulling, yet a calm exstacy combined with an active life.
The other thing is that as a young kid, say around 7,8 and up I knew we had exactly that and that the way things were was just to good to last.
One of my first great moments of sadness came when I was told the TH&B Berkshires had gone to scrap. Could this be true? 3 years later or so, their ex NYC Hudson's.
The passenger train you see in the picture was the first passenger train I knew and saw almost daily that got the axe. It was a true branch line train, very rural, no big city centers, all the way to water/ferry connections in Allendale way up the line.
The CNR streamlined Northerns, CPR 4-4-4's, Royal Hudson's, monster freight steam, freight peddler 2-8-0's, 4-6-0's all soldiered on right up until late '59. Yes there were Diesels but business was brisk right across the land so power was needed. They maintained steam to a high level right to the end. As NDG pointed out once, some on the scrap line still had fresh paint. CNR and CPR chose an end date in the spring of 1960 and mutually agreed to put them away for good. No more water, no more coal.
The last steam I saw through town was a CPR Jubilee 4-4-4 ( not the original ones) running with RDC's! over the heavy Christmas period of 1959/60.
So I lived an idyllic life, in an idyllic place, at the right time and I knew it. Also knew it was going to end. We spend the rest of our lives trying to attain those feelings again but we can only grasp it once in a while, here and there. To what end? We had it in the first place!
This is exactly as how I recall the steam/Diesel era in Southern Ontario. I lived in Burlington in the fifties, when it was a town of 5,000 folks and apple orchards, before it became a 200,000 sprawling burb within the GTA. ( greater Toronto area) ...Apple orchards, once famous, are now malls. None, and I mean none, remain. Fast food places up the ying yang.
Lots of steam right up until the end in late 59. Busy railroad town with 2 junctions and both CNR, CPR along with TH&B/NYC.
As a kid and young teen I got to know the fella that ran the station, issuing tickets, on the wire tapping out morse and speaking railroad talk up and down the line. Copying orders...that fella seemed to work seven days a week, all day and all night because it was always the same guy.
2 Water tanks, coaling tower , icing platforms for reefers at the fruit sheds, tower at Brant St., which was the main drag, overseeing many many multiples of tracks crossing it, was a well known fixture for the town. The Grimbsy subdivision and the Halton subdivision both ending at the station right there, so sometimes trains on all three converging. Big mainline...Hamilton, London, Windsor, to the West ...Toronto, Montreal to the East. The subivisions to all points North via Allendale and onward to the West, the other to Niagara Falls-Ft. Erie-Buffalo and all the US roads found there.
Tip Top Tailors, huge Basket Factory, Niagara Chemical Plant and large central fresh produce/fruit terminal for distribution, all right there as well. Long storage sidings for many work trains and all their associated equipment paralleled the mainlines through town for many years.
The station is gone, typical standard GT/CN turn of the century with freight depot. It was saved by enthusiasts and is now a tourist information center, moved down to the shores at a park along Lake Ontario. Teenagers staffing the place in the summer havent got a clue.
No trains stop at at the remnants of the platforms, instead replaced by a Go Train/VIA commuter bus shelter thingie with parking for a zillion cars now located about half a mile East.
These 2 photos are in Galt. They were originally posted by NDG but I am using them to illustrate the end of steam
The Kat went under the chesterfield.Thank You.
For our American friends "a chesterfield" is the couch or sofa. Not a pack of smokes!
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