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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, May 2, 2016 7:38 PM

Might be better to bale it than to bail it!

We haven't had rain in flooding quantities, but we have had it in greening, soggy, ponding quantities.  Having gotten the lawn mowed yesterday between rain showers, I tried to take advantage of today by going train-watching.  Owing to circumstances beyond my control, things could have been a little better.  I'm still going to be very busy with positive results.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, May 2, 2016 7:24 PM

BOB WITHORN
So, ya think the neighbors will notice if I bring a couple of the horses over to the neighborhood and let them mow?

I'd just have to call on my Amish neighbors up the hill.  Then, again, if they do business with my next door neighbor (he's a welder), they often leave a "deposit" there, and there's always what they leave in the road...

Gonna have to dig the mower out of the back of the garage soon (and put the snowblower in its place) or I will have to call on someone to bale the yard...

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, May 2, 2016 6:33 PM

50's and rain until Noonish - then the Sun came out and the thermometer shot up to 80 - T'storms tonight and a high of 60 for tomorrow.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Monday, May 2, 2016 6:26 PM
As usual I feed the lawn and it rains and rains and rains. So, ya think the neighbors will notice if I bring a couple of the horses over to the neighborhood and let them mow. Bet the neighbors would love that, all that fresh fertilizer. It'd only be for a few days.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, May 2, 2016 2:36 PM

afternoon

drizzly here in Nw Ohio.Short Ns train went west when I got off work.Chores to do.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by rvos1979 on Monday, May 2, 2016 1:54 PM
Bad day for Metra in Chicago today, two train vs pedestrian accidents so far. First was around the Bartlett area at 0700, second happened near Carl's home, he can fill in the details on that one...........

Headed to the Twin Cities shortly from Chicago...........

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, May 2, 2016 7:26 AM

NorthWest

Amtrak turns 45 today.

Hard to believe that it has been that long.  It doesn't seem that long ago when I was at the De Kalb station after classes to catch the last run of C&NW 1, the remnants of the "Kate Shelley".  The consist was an E7A and three single-level (800-series) coaches, all steam-heated.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:10 AM

Amtrak turns 45 today.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, May 1, 2016 7:53 AM

morning

Matt is off to Sunday school.Time for me to get cleaned up.More rain coming this week.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, April 30, 2016 5:56 PM

EMS conference over for another year.  Speakers weren't too bad, for the most part.   One that I greatly dislike was (unfortunately for her) ill, but I don't know that she was missed.

We're supposed to be pretty wet over the next couple of days.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:11 PM

Rain has arrived in Nw Ohio.Matt got his mowing job done this morning.Have been working on the track on our layout.We found some track we picked up at last years Fostoria train show.Will keep working.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, April 29, 2016 6:20 PM

evening

Ns was clear when we left work.We saw a CSX stack train with BNSF power(probably 171) when we were in Defiance.Matt will do his mowing job tomorrow before more rain.I mowed and trimed the swamp today.Momma is making his list for  Matt's confirmation lunch in 2 weeks.(time flies)

stay safe

joe

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, April 29, 2016 2:55 PM

Norm48327
 
mudchicken
...at least 12 wk old Duncan thinks it's furry fun.

 

Photos; or it didn't happen. Smile

 

If only the firewall wasn't screwed down so tight.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Friday, April 29, 2016 1:07 PM

mudchicken
...at least 12 wk old Duncan thinks it's furry fun.

Photos; or it didn't happen. Smile

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, April 29, 2016 9:28 AM

RV: If that's the case, bring a trailer-load of ether out this way (12" of snow due here in the next 24-48 hour.)

...at least 12 wk old Duncan thinks it's furry fun.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:34 PM
Driving through Appleton today, we had sleet falling. Mother Nature better give spring a shot of ether, the engine is having a hard time getting started............

Got an early morning run to a foodservice place in Oak Creek, then home for the weekend...........

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, April 28, 2016 4:25 PM

Evening

Ns was clear when I left work.Chores to do.Rain on and off this weekend.Tomorrow is Friday.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, April 26, 2016 5:28 PM

Evening

Those south shore cars run on Q 500/501 on CSX as well.Ns had some cars in the siding when I left work.Csx was in the paper and politicians talking about the blocked crossings.Especially the hire road crossing.This is where the Defiance yard is and where cars for GM and other places are switched.There was a state study for an overpass.Back then the state said in had no money for an overpass project.Probably still doesn't.Will keep watching.Chores to do.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, April 26, 2016 7:21 AM

It can work in the other direction, too.  In my youth, seeing a freight car with a South Shore (CSS) reporting mark was almost impossible.  I was out exercising the camera this past Sunday and spotted a flat car loaded with steel bars with CSS markings.  South Shore coil cars with the "South Shore Freight" herald  on the covers turn up pretty regularly.  A friend of mine once spotted one in Denver.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, April 25, 2016 6:32 PM

Carl - funny how that stuff happens...

Just had a moment of my own, if you will.  Was watching a rerun of "That 70's Show" when a t-shirt one of the characters was wearing caught my eye.  It was for "Slot and Wing Hobbies" in Rantoul, IL, right outside what was the north gate.  I did a lot of shopping there when I was stationed there - in the 70's.  In addition to slot cars and airplanes, they had a substantial model railroad department, which is why I was there...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 25, 2016 4:53 PM

Today was a nostalgic day for me, though it didn't really start out that way.

I hopped on a scoot in Lombard to go to Glen Ellyn and get some blood drawn (tests).  That went quickly enough that I caught the next train east and went as far as Oak Park.  Nothing shaking there (though two eastbound stack trains came through in the half-hour or so I was there), so I headed back west to Elmhurst (had I stayed in Oak Park for lunch I might have caught the good-looking eastbound manifest that met us in River Forest).  

Between Bellwood and Elmhurst, we started running very slowly.  The reason was because the eastbound scoot was operating on Track 3, the same track we needed, at Elmhurst.  We still had to stop a couple of minutes at the control point (parked at Park).  Part of the reason for the traffic jam became clear there:  an eastbound freight headed into Yard Nine at Proviso was still sticking out on the main line (he was moving, but the mid-train DPU, visible from our scoot, suggested how long he was!).  As soon as the eastbound scoot went by, we moved into Elmhurst and I bailed out.

Once I hit the platform, the rest of the reason became apparent.  Track 2 was occupied by a GP38-2, about five loads of ballast, and an ex-MP caboose.  I crossed over to the bathroom...I mean, station...and noticed that they were dumping ballast in front to the station.  To the west of this little train were a surfacer, a tamper, and a ballast regulator (the big broom).

This is when things started getting nostalgic.  It was 45 years ago this month (April 1971) that I caught a job off the yard extra board that entailed dumping ballast in front of the station in Elmhurst!  It was basically my job to operate the grade crossings from the control boxes while we were there.  That was the cushy job--the other brakeman was more of a rookie than I was.  I don't know nor do I care what the conductor had him doing.  So I vividly remembered seeing the ballast coming out of the hoppers...and the dust...and staying out of the way...and walking from one crossing to the next between York, Addison/Cottage Hill, and Maple..and back...and forth...

Things have changed a lot since I did this.  Back then we had slab-sided longitudinal hoppers for ballast.  There were more of them in our train, because they were only 50- or 70-ton cars, instead of the 100-ton HLMX (ex-KCS) cars I saw today.  We also didn't have a waycar back then.  But those old ballast cars could pour out ballast much more quickly than these did...and that was not a good thing, as these newer cars also put it pretty much where you need it.

I also don't remember a mechanized army to take care of the ballast once it was unloaded...in one pass, instead of several.  Today there was a surfacer--using lasers to keep the track level as the ballast was tamped beneath every other tie (the track was actually lifted up by this machine to aid in that).  Back in 1971 this had been done manually, with shovels, ballast forks, track jacks, and levels, and our crew had nothing to do with it.

Next came the tamper, which, from what I could figure, tamped the ties that the surfacer skipped over.  The regulator made several passes over the track after that, sweeping and plowing the leftover ballast to make things look presentable.

Back then we just dumped the ballast and left.  And, speaking of leaving...

When the crew was done this afternoon, they waited at the western limits of the control point until everyone was finished, including the foreman who had to repair a cable damaged by the surfacer.  Then the dispatcher lined him back into the yard.  When we left, the control point (then known as HM Interlocking) was right at York Street, and we had to wait in front of the station to get the pot signal off Track 1 to go through the crossovers, and line a hand-throw switch to pull into a seldom-used track off the main line and leave the ballast cars.  We had to dodge the scoots then, and trains going through the area were hamstrung by the old direction-of-traffic ABS rules.

Ah, where to begin...if a scoot was on the "wrong" side (as one had been this morning), he would have been moving at Restricted Speed, because he wouldn't have had cab signals or Automatic Train Control giving him permission to go faster.  And this would have been between Elmhurst and West Chicago, since there were no controlled crossovers between HM Interlocking and NI Interlocking.  And when the westbound scoot that I departed on left, he was followed by no fewer than five freights, out of Proviso, off the IHB, and from in the city!  Track 2 was occupied by the ballast gang, so these trains went out on both Tracks 1 and 3.  Now the next crossover is in Lombard, and west of there, Track 2 was probably available.

Back in '71, CNW wasn't doing too much maintenance, so this ballast spread in Elmhurst was a big thing.  Today, it seems to be a small part of a much larger project--new rail had been installed on at least two, and possibly all three, of the tracks past the station in Elmhurst.  And this would have been since the last time I visited, last week.  The new rail is 141-pound, replacing 133 or 136.  And who knows what was there in 1971...maybe 131, but more likely 112.  It wasn't welded, yet.  And maintenance is a much bigger thing nowadays--one of the trains that went out today was a mechanized track gang on flat cars including one car for floodlights and generators for night operation, and another flat for the outhouses...  Another train out was Herzog ballast cars, including many in their new red-and-gray paint scheme...which looks like it was inspired by the way the C&NW painted its ballast cars toward the end.  More nostalgia!

Our old friend Colin ("MetraKid2" on the Forum) dropped by while I was there, and we chatted briefly.  He's currently on furlough from BNSF.

Soon after he left, I took the scoot home to Lombard.  I have plenty of notes...

Carl

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, April 25, 2016 4:34 PM

evening

ns was clear when I left work.Chores to do.Guessers say rain on the way.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:23 PM

Saturday stint in uniform at TV station went well.  Sunday was busy, including a trip to the highest point on the Adirondack Division to memorialize a longtime employee who recently passed away, then returning to cover my shift at the TV station for the evening.  Made for a lot of driving.

Not as busy this coming week, but I still have enough to do.  Much if it is inside, which is good considering the cool (maybe even cold) temperatures they're forecasting...

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, April 24, 2016 6:30 AM

Cool start this morning.More rain coming tomorrow.Going to mow the swamp after church.Looks like we need to fix a switch on the layout.Time to get cleaned up.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, April 23, 2016 11:37 AM

Recruiting open house at the fire station today.  The only person who showed up was from the organization which sponsors the event statewide.  Maybe we'll get our pictures in their magazine...

Back to the TV station for the auction again tonight.  I'll be in my conductor's uniform tonight, as the railroad is underwriting a portion of the night's festivities.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, April 23, 2016 6:52 AM

morning

rain has left NW Ohio.Clear but cooler today.Chores to do inside and out.Since we cleaned up the cabinets we can store stuff under the layout.Can expand our mainline.Will do the benchwork today.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Friday, April 22, 2016 12:17 PM

tree68
 
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swallowed a whole lake including a tugboat and barge that were never seen again.

 

Here you go:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRMdfMfPALU

   Thanks, Larry.   I only remember hearing about it second hand and didn't remember the details right.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, April 22, 2016 5:30 AM

Whole lotta money spent in that short run, huh....pretty much any petrochemical product in the world is made or shipped from that place.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, April 21, 2016 10:07 PM

     Ed-- I did take a Google map cruise up the bayous.  Pretty interesting, a lot going on there.

Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, April 21, 2016 9:53 PM

Texaco I think...and they hit one of the tunnels I think...

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