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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, December 22, 2015 10:39 PM

    That's how my relatives down south pronounce it. (Like ol' Miss, not like potato ole)

     We see a lot about the change in oil traffic in North Dakota and Canada.  With the price of oil changing so drasticaly, is there a big effect on oil moving everywhere else  in North America by rail?

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:28 AM

and Murphy persons in east Tennessee pronounce it   "EARL"

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 6:35 AM

Georgia is All and Nebraska is "look at the high price!"

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:24 AM

ˈi(-ə)l It's two syllables, of course, in standard English. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:50 AM

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ˈi(-ə)l It's two syllables, of course, in standard English. 

 

  My relatives live in North Carolina.  Nothing they say sounds like standard english to me.  Of course they say the same thing about us flatlanders.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 9:08 AM

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My relatives live in North Carolina. Nothing they say sounds like standard english to me. Of course they say the same thing about us flatlanders.

Do they live on Ocracoke Island? Those folks speak what sounds like a 'whole nuther language'. Big Smile

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:04 PM

And the blondes weigh in on - 710

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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:24 PM

Here I thought from the title that we were going to hear of the adventures of that fine old Norwegian and his wife Lena.  For those that don't understand, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_and_Lena

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:25 PM

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Murphy Siding
My relatives live in North Carolina. Nothing they say sounds like standard english to me. Of course they say the same thing about us flatlanders.

 

Do they live on Ocracoke Island? Those folks speak what sounds like a 'whole nuther language'. Big Smile

 

I do not recall a weird accent there, but in the Low Country in FL, GA and SC, they speak Gullah.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:30 PM

schlimm
do not recall a weird accent there, but in the Low Country in FL, GA and SC, they speak Gullah.

I believe that's it. Couldn't remember the name of it.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:31 PM

jeffhergert

Here I thought from the title that we were going to hear of the adventures of that fine old Norwegian and his wife Lena.  For those that don't understand, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_and_Lena

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Posted by Dakguy201 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:35 PM

schlimm

 

I do not recall a weird accent there, but in the Low Country in FL <snip>
 

 
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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:39 PM

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schlimm
I do not recall a weird accent there, but in the Low Country in FL <snip>
I didn't realize there was a High Country in FL!

Every Interstate overpass is the High Country!  But after driving down I95 and Florida Turnpike to Homestead - it is the trash dumps.  They tower over the surrounding areas.

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:41 PM

I do not know about Georgia and Florida (I had not heard of calling a section in either of those states "Low Country"), but the Low Country in South Carolina extends up to the Fall Line--the line where you find falls in rivers--and is much larger than the section (around Charleston, particularly) where Gullah is spoken. Above the Fall Line, you have the Up Country--where I grew up; it is also called Piedmont, particularly in the western part of the state.

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:55 PM

Here in Houston, we just call it "the payroll"....

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:58 PM

jeffhergert

Here I thought from the title that we were going to hear of the adventures of that fine old Norwegian and his wife Lena.  For those that don't understand, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ole_and_Lena

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  I'm probably related to those folks.

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Posted by schlimm on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:21 PM

Gullah is spoken in the Sea Islands and parts of Lowcountry.  It's Creole-based, spoken by descendents of slaves.  On Okracoke the few true locals speak with a strong accent to each other and would say for example, "hoy toyd" for high tide.

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Posted by chutton01 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:30 PM

Since the thread has been...diverted (NOT going for the obvious pun), I will briefly address the topic by appending this quote from this article

According to data from the American Association of Railroads, oil-by-rail shipments across the nation are down by 13 percent over the past year.
Similar articles indicate that indeed, Crude-By-Rail (CBR) shipments have decreased in 2015, due to falling production and additional pipelines coming on line.

This thread can now resume random observations on American dialects...

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:46 PM

But isn't this just a temporary decline in oil shipments and like all things cyclical will come back again?  Or is this a decline because of pipelines that have been built recently so rail shipping isn't as necessary? 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 2:59 PM

Given the common practice of looking at things in the short term, not helped by the recent growth of CBR in general, it's hard to say what's going on.  General oil usage has peaks and valleys, and it's really necessary to look at a number of factors, including historical data, to tell what's up.

F'rinstance, how much of an effect has this incredibly mild fall had?

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:26 PM

Schlimm,

While there, friends and I chartered a small fishing boat. The owner definitely was a local. He was somewhat difficult to understand at times.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:47 PM

edblysard

Here in Houston, we just call it "the payroll"....

 

  I've never heard it pronounced that way.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:49 PM

Norm48327

Schlimm,

While there, friends and I chartered a small fishing boat. The owner definitely was a local. He was somewhat difficult to understand at times.

 

  Was that what the filmakers had in the back of their minds for the fishing boat owner in the movie Jaws?

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:50 PM

Mookie

But isn't this just a temporary decline in oil shipments and like all things cyclical will come back again?  Or is this a decline because of pipelines that have been built recently so rail shipping isn't as necessary?

One destination terminal on my carrier is still doing their normal 4 trains a day.  Don't know about other terminals.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:53 PM

Mookie

But isn't this just a temporary decline in oil shipments and like all things cyclical will come back again?  Or is this a decline because of pipelines that have been built recently so rail shipping isn't as necessary? 

 

Well, I'd guess they'll still be fighting over the Keystone Pipeline 10 years from now.

     There is a pipeline in the works to go from southeast South Dakota to Illinoi(?) by way of Iowa.  The BNSF and a fertilizer/grain unit train load-out location have teamed up to bring in pipe.  There's a field near Worthing, S.D. that has acres and acres of pipe stacked higher than a house.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:17 PM

Ole? Here in Minnesota, we pronounce that "Oh-lee", as in "Hey Ole, there goes another oil train, tell Sven to get the camera!"

Course my old friend from Arkansas would have pronounced it "Earl Train".

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:21 PM

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Ole? Here in Minnesota, we pronounce that "Oh-lee", as in "Hey Ole, there goes another oil train, tell Sven to get the camera!"

 

  There?  Here in South Dakota, Ole pronounces that "dare", as in "Hey Ole, dare goes anuder train....."

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 5:03 PM

tree68
F'rinstance, how much of an effect has this incredibly mild fall had?

 I have been most happy all fall!  Cool

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Wednesday, December 23, 2015 8:28 PM

I've seen it written that in Texas or Oklahoma, it's also pronounced "awl" (Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising).  

I've also seen or heard that the English language dialect in the coastal areas of North and South Carolina and Georgia is more like the English in the times of Shakespeare and Chaucer ("Canterbury Tales") than the English spoken in that country of Great Britain today. 

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