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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, December 14, 2015 5:58 PM

Mookie

Are the grain of wheat bulbs what they put in a mag-light?  

 

No, but they are about the same size as the bulbs for the Mini Mag Lite.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 14, 2015 6:05 PM

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, December 14, 2015 6:44 PM

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.chiefaircraft.com%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F265x%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2FG%2FE%2FGE_327.jpg&f=1

GE 327 aircraft instrument light bulb. They are about 3/16 in. diameter and 3/8 in. long. Don't drop one. They're hard to find.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Monday, December 14, 2015 6:51 PM

Norm48327

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.chiefaircraft.com%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fcache%2F1%2Fimage%2F265x%2F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%2FG%2FE%2FGE_327.jpg&f=1

GE 327 aircraft instrument light bulb. They are about 3/16 in. diameter and 3/8 in. long. Don't drop one. They're hard to find.

 
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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, December 14, 2015 7:50 PM

tree68

 

As I recall, those that I knew 60-70 years ago were push-ins. No, I do not recall ever pushing one over.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 14, 2015 8:55 PM

      Well I guess I really can't go off topic here.... anybody know what is a good light bulb to buy now?  I've tried twisty flourecents, halogen, LED, cheap, mid-range, expensive.  No matter what, and no matter the fixture, they don't seem to last very long.  I love how the boxes always say something like "lasts up to 9 years!!!!".. Key phrase is "up to".  Anybody have a good experience with a certain bulb they can share?

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 14, 2015 9:32 PM

I've gone almost all LED here - and what's not LED will be when I can get them replaced.  So far I have yet to have any fail.  I've had a few CFLs go, but those that are still in use generally seem to be doing fine.

The LEDs have come from several sources, but mostly from big-box home improvement stores.

If you're going through a lot of bulbs, you may have another issue with your wiring.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, December 14, 2015 10:50 PM

  Murphy, for the last couple of years I've been waiting for the price of LED's to come down, and I recently found Utilitech bulbs at Lowes at less than $10 for a box of six.   I can't report on the life of them yet, but I'm happy with the white light they put out.   I've never been happy with CFL's.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Monday, December 14, 2015 11:02 PM

   Aahh, nostalgia for me on seeing 327's and grain of wheat bulbs.   In thirty years working on main-frame computers I must have changed out a thousand 327's.   The grain of wheat bulbs were less common, but before LED's they were used in some indicators.   They had little red plastic cases over them which made them look just like LED's.

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 12:40 AM

OopsWeatherliars in Denver now in CYA mode. Projected snowfall has now tripled.

We will now observe a moment of silence for the RTD Light-Rail (toy train) hydraulic track bumper that sacrificed itself to keep a motorman from running off the end of track at 25MPH with her two car train. (the train had already blown through the Mineral Ave platform without stopping.) Track bumper worked as intended, motorman did not.......Amen. AngelAngelAngel

 

Them things (WCH Type WH) at $ 17500+ ain't cheap either. It was just standing there when it was so rudely assaulted by the RTD trainOops....Like the tank cars at Portland, it worked as intended. RTD's toy train bus people dodged a bullet. The track bumper will now lie in state at Atlas Iron & Metal until it goes to Pueblo and the railroad afterlife.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29249668/rtd-operator-error-likely-blame-light-rail-crash 

 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 4:33 PM

Ns was clear when I left work.Chores to do.Still shipping it out.

stay safe

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 5:24 PM

I just bought a three-way LED bulb for the over-the-bed lamp in our room.  I'm with you, Larry--anything that goes out now gets replaced with LED...some before they go out.

I'm a fan of the "Daylight" bulbs (which Pat calls "blue" and claims that they hurt her eyes); she likes the yellower ones (whch she calls "white").  So we'll probably have a strategic mixture.  

The house is getting a lot brighter, as we replace small 40-watt or 60-watt bulbs with LEDs equivalent to 75 or 100 watts.  It's worth it, and we're not staying young enough for dim lights under normal circumstances.

We foresee one problem:  the new fan/light in our new great room has bulbs with two pegs on them instead of a screw-in socket.  We have CFLs in there now, and, last we checked, LEDs were unavailable.  I'd like to get LEDs for this one ASAP, because this light is meant to be able to be dimmed; CFLs are not.

Other news:  In spite of Linda's anemia problems, she's whuppin' that cancer's tail.  Her markers are down by 50 percent just since October!  They're still about three times a cancer-free reading, but less than ten percent of what they were when she was diagnosed.

UP obliged me by sending two manifests through while Pat and I were lunchng at our favorite dive in Geneva.  The westbound was huge--with at least eight units on the point, and what looked like a piece of a ComEd empty coal train in the middle.  Jeff, if you should happen to see something like this on a lineup, I wouldn't mind a car count and a total length--it had to be spectacular!  Probably going through to North Platte, judging from some of the cars I recognized.

Progress made on Christmas shopping today, plans being made for our trip to the north pole (or at least a degree closer).  

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 6:50 PM

CShaveRR
I'm a fan of the "Daylight" bulbs (which Pat calls "blue" and claims that they hurt her eyes); she likes the yellower ones (whch she calls "white").  So we'll probably have a strategic mixture.  

Outside lights - "Daylight" (5000 Kelvin)

Inside lights - "Warm" (~3000 Kelvin)

I'm not really a fan of the cooler color for inside lighting, either.

Just ran my first local ham net (I often participate, but I've never been net control before).  It was a slow night, fortunately.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 7:07 PM

I have begun using CFL's , and I, as others, have found that some fal early on, and others soldier on. Several years ago, I began using one that is equivalent to (I think) a 60 watt incandescent bulb in my bed lamp--where I had used a 40 watt bulb, and I no longer burn my hand when touching the shade. Two and a half years ago, when I replaced the existing ceiling fixture over my dining table, and was talking with the salesman in a hardware store, he told me that an electician had told him that a fluorescent bulb which gives, using less power than the incandescent bulb, gives off just as much heat as the incandescent bulb which produces the same amount of light--and would not take any objection to his statement. I wish I had remembered my heat experience and had ben able to tell him that his electrician friend needs to study the relation of power and heat again.

Many years ago, Ricki bought a nice floor lamp that uses a mogul-based 100--200-300 watt bulb. So far, I know of no fluorescent or LED lighting that gives the same amount of light in the same way. I still use the lamp.

Also, Ricki was using 75 watt bulbs in her desk lamp, and burning the socket up. We began using a CFL that gives the same light in the socket, and I no longer had to replace the socket. She did complain that she could no longer warm her hands on the shade. That electrician knows less about heat and power than I do, and I make no claim to be an electrician (though I have done a bit of electrical work).

By the way, I wonder if our post counter is counting posts this evening.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:55 PM

Bulbs burning out quickly ?  Have often found that it may be caused by what is know as a floating ground.  Basically ground connections are not sufficient to return all current to ground and some current bleeds over to other leg.  This causes voltage fluctuations on each of the 110 volt leg depending on how much load is on the other leg.  Use a voltmeter to check each 110 leg or better still rent a recording voltmeter.  Imagine two 110 volt air conditioners on the same leg and very little load on other leg especially when starting.  Of course any unbalance load situation in a home can cause problems if you have a floating ground.  Found one ground so bad a leg measured 158 volts other ~ 90 volts.

Color rendition of both CFLs and LEDs is a matter personal tast. Taste will be highly influenced if your eyes have any type of colored cataract. My cataract removal has been very revealing. All color vision from replaced eye is completely different from the yellow cataract in the other eye. 

Suggest deciding which of the three different color CFLs or LEDs.  Most Home Depots now have a display with the three different color lights both CFL and LED that can help you decide which one is best.  Suggest also taking any samples of items to see how their color behaves under the various colors.  

 

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:58 AM

blue streak 1
Color rendition of both CFLs and LEDs is a matter personal tast. Taste will be highly influenced if your eyes have any type of colored cataract.

And your eyes are not the only thing that can be fooled by CFL's. A few years ago, I took some  indoor photos with my DSLR in what I thought was incandescent light. Camera was set accordingly. All the photos had a very warm orangeish yellow cast to them that even Photoshop couldn't remove.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 7:19 AM

     Thunder snow!  Yee-haw!   About 2 o'clock this morning Mother Nature decides to remind us who is in charge,  Too bad there was no lightning.  Lightning always adds to a good thunder smow.

     Right now, it's snowing.  In places the drifts are at least 1/4" deep, maybe more!  The TV weathermen are wetting their pants and everybody is bracing for..... 2-3 inches of snow.  It's the end of the world as we know it. Dunce

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:32 AM

Monday, downtown Salt Lake City had about eleven inches of snow. I understand that there was about two feet up at our house. I should have warned MC that he was going to get another deposit.

For several years, I sent bad PC boards to a company in Colorado Springs which spanked them so they would work again; one of the men there with whom I dealt would ask me what weather to expect the next day.

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Posted by BOB WITHORN on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:37 AM

MS,

Better get to the store quick, you could be stranded for a few minutes.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:00 AM

Our winter has been disgustingly mild of late.  We're supposed to get about three cooler days with highs around 30 followed by a warming trend with highs in the mid-40's and some rain.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 10:53 AM

BOB WITHORN

MS,

Better get to the store quick, you could be stranded for a few minutes.

 

   Too late. The shelves are probably bare.   By now people are in full media panic mode.   My yard forman asked if I thought he should get the plow out yet.  I told him to just wait.  If the sun comes out, it will melt the inch of snow.

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 12:58 PM

Initial forecast here was 2-4". Got 11". More due tomorrow and x-mas eve eve.

Think we found winter. New cat loves to watch me shovel from the warm side of the window.

 

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Posted by diningcar on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:11 PM

MC, no snow yet in Lawrence, KS. I moved here from AZ for the winter. I am telling my AZ friends in Prescott who have had snow and icy conditions about my good judgment, ha!

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Posted by Deggesty on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 2:16 PM

MC, we had only a little snow yeserday. Did the winds find a huge deposit of snow between the Back Range and the Front Range and bless you with it? We are promsed more snow early next week and we will send it on as an early Christmas present.

Katie stopped by this morning and told me that she had more snow to contend with than she really wanted.

I am expected at her house Sunday night for her family Christmas meal; it will be good to get up there again, after five months in the lowland here. Maybe I won't be snowbound.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 3:53 PM

Virtually no chance of a white Christmas here.  We have temperatures in the 50s today, 30s tomorrow, 20s Friday, then it warms up again to the 40s.  Precipitation is due only after said warmup, so it will be rain.  It's a driving rain...which explains the days that it's forecast to fall (we'll be driving).

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Posted by edblysard on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:11 PM

CowboyDoubt we will have a White Christmas here...

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:15 PM

edblysard

CowboyDoubt we will have a White Christmas here...

 

The gators won't need sweaters....

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 4:52 PM

Ns was clear when I left work.Seems the new Napoleon school put in a driveway without pre-approval and in the city ROW.City came and tore the driveway out.Guessers say some lake effect snow for those in Michigan but none here in Nw Ohio.Time to take Matt to confirmation class.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 16, 2015 5:19 PM

Looking like we'll see a mostly green Christmas here, too (I say mostly 'cause you gotta figure in all the bare trees....)

I'm still a little afraid of what we're gonna see when the temperatures do drop.  The lake effect may be a bit overwhelming...

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:54 AM

edblysard

CowboyDoubt we will have a White Christmas here...

Can I raise that topic again when you're switching North Yard in July in the 90 degree heat and 90% humidity?Whistling

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