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Posted by rvos1979 on Friday, January 9, 2015 12:56 PM

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A. Randy, what is this regeneration with a diesel? At the moment, the only regeneration I can think of is regenerating ion exchange resins so they can continue to remove unwanted ions from your water (one of my classmates and I played with some ion exchange resins back when we were college freshmen--sixty years ago, and the semiconductor industry uses the resins to obtain ultra-pure water).

John:  under all new diesel vehicles is what is called a Diesel Particulate Filter, this traps all the soot created in the combustion process.  When back pressure sensors indicate that this filter has caught enough soot, it signals the engine to begin the process of regeneration, by increasing the exhaust temperature to around 1500 degrees or so.  The intense heat, plus special materials in the filter, changes the soot into ash, which takes up less space in the filter.  After a period of time (Cummins specified a quarter million miles), the filter has to be removed and cleaned at a repair shop.  

The regeneration process usually involves dumping raw fuel into the exhaust system after the turbocharger, either while running down the road or by speeding up the engine when parked. 

Hope this makes it a little clearer for you, and everyone else..........

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, January 9, 2015 10:43 AM

A. Randy, what is this regeneration with a diesel? At the moment, the only regeneration I can think of is regenerating ion exchange resins so they can continue to remove unwanted ions from your water (one of my classmates and I played with some ion exchange resins back when we were college freshmen--sixty years ago, and the semiconductor industry uses the resins to obtain ultra-pure water).

B. Larry, I hope that the  people who build fire engines with hot exhausts have the exhaust aimed in such a way that there not the danger of burning the road when the truck is in use.

C. MC, #6 arrived in Denver 23 minutes early yesterday, according to Amtrak's website--so there must not have been any trouble. It is strange to hear that the entire train was on the wye.  Was the train positioned to move east, or would it have to back before moving east? Several years ago, as I was coming home, I saw a Superliner car set out on the wye; apparently it had a problem. And, mentioning problems, when Ricki and I were on our way to Los Angeles seven years this spring, the lounge car had to be set out in Albuquerque because of a broken spring; apparently all sorts of permission had to be granted before the car could be set out, for we waited a long time before any move was made after it had been determined that the car should not proceed any farther.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, January 9, 2015 9:03 AM

Witnessed Amtrak #6 (EB-CZ) on the wye at Dotsero yesterday. It shouldn't be there. The ex-DRGW Tennessee Pass line is only open Dotsero to Gypsum. With the strange weather here, wondering if we have hillslides or an avalanche somewhere in Gore Canyon on the Moffat line between Dotsero and the tunnel. As it was, UP was busy with the slide fences in Glenwood Canyon.

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, January 9, 2015 6:22 AM

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I've got the weed burner exhaust on my truck,

It's something we'll have to keep in mind.  We don't spend much time on the road, or idling in lots, but at a fire, we're "working" and aren't in a position to move the truck at a moment's notice.  It's actually going to be more of a problem in the spring, when we might have to worry about already tinder-dry ground cover...  That's always been a problem, but could be even moreso now.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, January 8, 2015 11:37 PM

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Larry, from what I've seen out here, Cummins and Detroit seem to be the systems that have the least amount of problems,...

 

I think the motor in the pumper is a Cummins.  We had to call the dealer to find out what the "hot exhaust" idiot light meant.  Turns out it's normal.  Still, when you get a warning light that says "hot" you tend to be concerned.

The whole truck has been a learning process.  Seems like every time we take it out we find something new.  And everything is electronic.  Not like our old pumper, which was four wheels, a motor, a pump, a tank, and some sheet metal.  

 

I've got the weed burner exhaust on my truck, last night I ran all night at 900 rpm.  Went to leave this morning, had a three foot circle of dry pavement under the exhaust tip.  And it was -8 last night.......

When the hot exhaust light comes on, just keep the vehicle away from anything flammable, and your body away from the exhaust tip, that heats up to around 1500 degrees during a regeneration........

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:14 PM

IGN - Our exhaust is low - from the right side just ahead of the rear axle.  No problem with overheads...

If the weatherguessers are right, we may have a lot of snow available over the next couple of days.  Some areas are forecast at 4+ feet.  Looks like I could see a foot and a half here at the house.

After Wednesday's collision with a stump (not me, a youngster in a Saab), today (Thursday) we were out for another youngster who managed to take out a telephone pole with his truck.  The visibility was poor, and the back road was snow covered and slippery.  Both were due to "speed too fast for conditions..."

There was no place to turn around at the scene, so I had to back the pumper about 3/8 of a mile.  For most of that, I could simply follow tracks in the road, but then they started getting covered with snow...  

Before we got back to the station, we went on another call that was, fortunately, cancelled, but it still meant driving in near zero conditions.  Coming back into town afterwards I saw the flashing light at an intersection, but couldn't see the bridge 100 yards further down the road.  And I'm driving a half million dollar fire truck... Wheeeee!

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:33 PM

Police/fire scanner tonite:  Alphabet codes A-Adam, B-Boy, C-Charlie, D-David, E-Edward.

Tonite they went to **** "E" - (Elephant) Street...

She is fairly new and I am glad she couldn't hear me laughing in the background!  I think they should change that one! 

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:11 PM

Paul of Covington

   Well, I did it again.   December 2013 when all you northerners were talking about cold weather, I posted that our air conditioner was running around midnight, and a couple of weeks later we had record cold.   About a week and a half ago I posted that we were running our air conditioner, and today it was close to record cold (17 degrees).   I won't do that again.   At least we don't have to use + or - like some of you do.

 

Maybe I should switch our heat over to air and see if that warms us up any.... Hmmm....You know that will probably greatly injure me if I do, cuz The Driver will throw me outside! 

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, January 8, 2015 6:08 PM

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We had the most beautiful set of sun dogs this morning just after sunrise.  I have seen a lot of them over the years, but the right one was very much like a vertical rainbow while the left one was breathtaking.  It was the sun thru a very bright prism.  I have never seen one as brilliant as this one was.  Talk about "diamonds". 

 

 

 

  What's that old wive's tale?  Sundogs in Nebraska means blizzrd in South Dakota the next day? Mischief

 

 

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:56 PM
Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 08, 2015 10:58 AM rvos1979 Larry, from what I've seen out here, Cummins and Detroit seem to be the systems that have the least amount of problems,... I think the motor in the pumper is a Cummins. We had to call the dealer to find out what the "hot exhaust" idiot light meant. Turns out it's normal. Still, when you get a warning light that says "hot" you tend to be concerned. Re The Hot Exhaust lite. On a Detroit engine It is a warning that you have very hit exhaust. What they are trying to keep you from doing is park under trees or anything else that will catch fire. One of the problems my company ran into was hot exhaust melting the plastic doors on trailer refridgeration units. Thx IGN
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, January 8, 2015 3:37 PM

Mookie

We had the most beautiful set of sun dogs this morning just after sunrise.  I have seen a lot of them over the years, but the right one was very much like a vertical rainbow while the left one was breathtaking.  It was the sun thru a very bright prism.  I have never seen one as brilliant as this one was.  Talk about "diamonds". 

 

  What's that old wive's tale?  Sundogs in Nebraska means blizzard in South Dakota the next day? Mischief

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, January 8, 2015 3:15 PM

staying frosty no problem today. Matt was closed due to the cold weather.ns had a frieght to go west in the siding.going to help bring the groceries in soon.Tomorrow is friday.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, January 8, 2015 2:24 PM

Paul of Covington

   Well, I did it again.   December 2013 when all you northerners were talking about cold weather, I posted that our air conditioner was running around midnight, and a couple of weeks later we had record cold.   About a week and a half ago I posted that we were running our air conditioner, and today it was close to record cold (17 degrees).   I won't do that again.   At least we don't have to use + or - like some of you do.

 

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:35 PM

   Well, I did it again.   December 2013 when all you northerners were talking about cold weather, I posted that our air conditioner was running around midnight, and a couple of weeks later we had record cold.   About a week and a half ago I posted that we were running our air conditioner, and today it was close to record cold (17 degrees).   I won't do that again.   At least we don't have to use + or - like some of you do.

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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, January 8, 2015 10:58 AM

rvos1979
Larry, from what I've seen out here, Cummins and Detroit seem to be the systems that have the least amount of problems,...

I think the motor in the pumper is a Cummins.  We had to call the dealer to find out what the "hot exhaust" idiot light meant.  Turns out it's normal.  Still, when you get a warning light that says "hot" you tend to be concerned.

The whole truck has been a learning process.  Seems like every time we take it out we find something new.  And everything is electronic.  Not like our old pumper, which was four wheels, a motor, a pump, a tank, and some sheet metal.  

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, January 8, 2015 7:49 AM
Larry, from what I've seen out here, Cummins and Detroit seem to be the systems that have the least amount of problems, mine does everything by itself, have never had to do a manual regeneration. Just keep the engine temperatures up, that seems to be the key.

Had to take it easy yesterday on the roads here, especially when I was bobtailing, I know I slid at least twice, luckily, I was going slow........

Just got dispatched on a mail run to Pittsburgh, should be interesting with light snow forecast all the way........

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:20 PM

We had the most beautiful set of sun dogs this morning just after sunrise.  I have seen a lot of them over the years, but the right one was very much like a vertical rainbow while the left one was breathtaking.  It was the sun thru a very bright prism.  I have never seen one as brilliant as this one was.  Talk about "diamonds". 

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:01 PM

We were looking at the regen stuff on our new fire truck the other day.  I gotta say I'm not up to snuff with it.  The fire service fought to keep that stuff off apparatus, albeit unsuccessfully.

The truck says -10F, my weather station shows -7F, and the sensor in the anemometer is showing -21F, with only a bit of wind.

Which is a lot less than we had to deal with at an accident today.  A young man got sideways on a snow-covered country road.  He'd likely have just slid into the adjoining field, and maybe even simply driven back out, except for that stump, which he hit broadside, just ahead of the driver's door.

We know he went airborne, but not if he flipped in the process.  The biggest problem was the fact that the collision with the stump collapsed the front right tire into the wheel well and firewall, trapping his foot (and therefore, him).  It took some extensive work with two sets of the "Jaws of Life" to finally get him out of the car (which is now a convertible, and sans one door).  On further examination, it appears the foot wasn't broken (we definitely thought it was).  Lucky boy.  If the tree that the stump came from was still there, he'd have been dead, or close to it.

Time for bed.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 9:41 PM
Sam: it's an adventure, especially today's little caper. Delivered to Menards in Plano, IL, then had to bobtail to Gary, IN to get a load off of a broken down truck. Let's just say that bobtailing and snow and ice don't go together very well. Wrecker had just finished hooking up the truck as I pulled in, he was headed to the Kenworth dealership to figure out why his truck wouldn't do a regeneration.........

-7 or so here in Richfield, WI, truck just finished a regeneration as I type this, everything under the truck is now nice and warm, including the snow pack........

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Posted by switch7frg on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:31 PM

SmileJoe thank you for the reply.All my folks that lived there have gone to the terminal in the sky. Many fond memories remain with me wandering along the switch yard from Findlay st.  to Irwin st. I found more than a few "treasures" -- 5minute fusees and "torpedoes". I also had afriendly " Bull" who told me a lot about what was going on the RR. I gave all my finds to Lawerence. He told me how dangerous they were. He never scolded me for being on the ROW, he said just be carefull. The memories of the 1940s engines and the  train loads of war materials never fade. Today I would be jailed or shot---- my how times have changed.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:14 PM

Aww, complain, complain, complain!  

We were well below zero today--all day--too, and enough wind to ruin my shoveling efforts of yesterday.  But did I stay inside?  Nooo...I went out and trudged my errands for the historical society--all three or so miles' worth.  I'm layered up when I go out there, and it was just fine.  Saw a few trains, too, mostly stackers.

I witnessed a prlonged stop of a scoot in Lobard due to a "medical emergency".  I know nothing, except that the train was still in the station about fifteen minutes after its scheduled time, and the local paramedics were at the platform entrance with their ambulance and obligatory fire engine/crew transport, as well as a couple of police cars.  The train was the first to be able to leave the scene, followed by the cops, and finally the ambulance, siren blowing (fire engine probably went back to the barn).

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:49 PM

Wind chill was about minus 30 all day, as the temp never got up to zero.  I spoke with someone in North Dakota today.  He said wind chill there was 48 below.  Kinda made me feel warm all over.

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 6:00 PM

Joe - after what we had today, you are going to want to set fire to the truck to warm it up! 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 5:26 PM

ma nature getting ready to open the freezer tonight.nothing on ns when I left work.going to take matt to confirmation class.better go warm up the truck.

stay safe

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 9:24 PM

rvos1979
I think somebody forgot to pay the heat bill........

Around 5 outside now in South Beloit, IL, was watching my fuel filter restriction gauge steadily climbing throughout today, but after 60 dollars worth of additives, I have it back down where it should be. Guess the terminal fuel wasn't treated enough.......

There should be no such thing as clean safety gear.........
 

Randy: Don't just love driving in this kind of cold? /SarcasmMischief

I've been so cold at times, that I had two pairs of socks on my hands, and every shirt I had in my bag, on.  The heater was about as useful as a candle. You could hold your hand in front of your face and feel the cold radiating off the inside of the windshield. Captain

Hope you can stay warm, at least you are not up in some Northeaster place, where about tht time you get comfortable and asleep, some cop wants to come by and beat on the truck, and bust you because they have a no-idle policy in that area; so shut off the engine or get a ticket....Love Mass. /not!

Stay WARM! Sigh

 

 


 

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Posted by rvos1979 on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 9:03 PM
I think somebody forgot to pay the heat bill........

Around 5 outside now in South Beloit, IL, was watching my fuel filter restriction gauge steadily climbing throughout today, but after 60 dollars worth of additives, I have it back down where it should be. Guess the terminal fuel wasn't treated enough.......

There should be no such thing as clean safety gear.........

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:32 PM

Get your tickets here - see a Tree hanging out a garage window on its back with a hair dryer attached to a limb!  That has to be worth at least $5. per person!  $2.50?  OK - $.50 - to cover at least the announcement!  

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 4:25 PM

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Now, I'm no weatherman..... but wouldn't the hair dryer skew the winds readings just a tad bit?

Only briefly.  You don't think I'm going to hang out that window (on my back) for any length of time, do you?

There's a temperature sensor in there somewhere, too.  probably threw that off a bit, too...

Gee - you just helped me figure out what one of the readouts is on the software I just loaded on my computer.  The program that came with the weather station wouldn't link up, but I finally found a "universal" program that works.  One of the readouts is "Temperature Wind..."

That's one of the display items on the weather station console itself, albeit called "wind chill".  Sometimes it's curious how much difference there is between the top of the mast and the ground when there's no wind to cause a wind chill...

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 3:02 PM

tree68

Had to thaw out the anemometer for my weather station.  Our rain of a couple days ago, coupled with the drop in temperatures, were enough to keep it from spinning freely.  Getting it freed up involves using an old hairdrier secured to a pole and leaning out an upstairs window in the garage to point the blower where it needs to be pointed.  You have to see it...

Better get my measuring tools ready - will have to record some snowfall amounts.

 

   Now, I'm no weatherman..... but wouldn't the hair dryer skew the winds readings just a tad bit? Hmm

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:52 PM

had the snow.Now waiting for the wind and the cold.Matt had a 2 hour delay this morning.Neighbors are all ok and the plow didn't leave a big mess.Ns local was uptown dropping cars.They left a fussee at the crossing.Cannonball NS still has the show in Dayton Ohio.The yard at moraine isn't as busy though since they closed the GM plant.Time to do some chores.

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