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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:57 PM

Interesting post on train orders.  BNSF has over 90+ locos stored laid up good order ( LUGO ).  Reported at Northtown, Topeka, Barstow.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:58 PM
Looked at the video that was linked here earlier, looks like the cantilevered part gave way first, so possibly the failure may have been caused by the excavator moving the span the wrong way, stressing the link bars on that end. Looking forward to hearing what exactly happened.......

Long day today, drove over 600 miles from Effingham, IL to Stringtown, OK. Figure I have about three hours of driving left to get to the final, more or less. Of course, the appointment is for 4 pm central, making life interesting........

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:45 PM

Joe: Brownies...Captain Kangaroo sez share?  Yum!

Zug - thanx for info.  There will be more questions, I am sure. 

And in return - I am going to give you some information you probably don't have:  reporterette on radio - CN - Canadian Northern.  Or maybe railroad workers know something I had never heard.... 

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Posted by zugmann on Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:28 PM

Mookie
I am not sure whether you are engineer or conductor. Engineer I know about a smidge more than conductor. Do you have cab signals? Any information about them would be appreciated. Have you ever worked with cantenary? Joe's area is mostly freight and a lot of it. Here it is freight and unit trains and probably a lot of them, altho they move during the night, so I don't know how many for sure. Are you mainly freight in your area?

 

Eastern railroads are like western railroads.  Just different colored engines. 

 

To answer you rquestions in order: 

1. was a conductor/remote operator, now an engineer trainee.  Not too crazy about it, though.  I hate being couped up.

2. Yes, we run on lines with cab signals.  Wonderful devices that have been around 100 years.  Why they were never required in the past is beyond me. 

3. I don't work electrics, but some of our routes do involve running on railroads with catenary.

4.  All freight here.

 

I like old ladies, kids, and dogs.  Even though I'm single, no kids of my own, and have cats.

 

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It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:55 PM

ns still had a westbound in the siding at work when I left. My grandma blanket maker delivered another blanket for our new great niece or nephew coming.She also had some brownies as well.Time to get some chores done.Tomorrow is Friday.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by switch7frg on Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:43 AM

SmileRandy, keep on truckin' , get it while you can, retirement and or disability comes all too soon.  Have pulled the pin now 8yrs.  Still hear the sound of singing tires on the roadway half mi. from home 20 ------ sheesh.   Respectfully, Cannonball

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Posted by Uncle Jake on Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:04 AM

Since the post of chief lurker has been filled, I will settle for deputy to the chief lurker, unless that's been taken as well. Assistant to the deputy chief lurker? Zugman: my dad always said:"They told me to cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up and sure enough, things got worse. "

PS: I enjoy your stories Zugman, please keep them coming.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:48 PM

rvos1979
Wild guess here, but I think somebody hit a part of the structure that they shouldn't have, and it gave way.

I was thinking that, or someone miscalculated what could be taken out and what had to stay.  Or, as a third possibility, something unforeseen failed.  We'll know when they finish the investigation.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:48 PM

Blindfold

rvos1979
All: What actually fell down in Cincinnati was the old off ramp bridge from I 75 north to Hopple St. They were getting ready to break up the concrete deck over the southbound lanes when the span dropped. Wild guess here, but I think somebody hit a part of the structure that they shouldn't have, and it gave way. The JB Hunt driver probably had to have the driver's seat surgically removed from his rear end, though. Went past the following afternoon, they were still investigating......

Taking my last trip to Texas for a while, I have decided to switch to a different trucking company. Starting in February, I'll be running a dedicated account for Schneider National, which means that I will be home more often, once a week instead of once a month.......
 

First of all, Randy, Good luck with the Pumpkins. They can be a great outfit.

I am reminded of an experience on 28 June 1983, The North bound Lane of the Cos Cob- I-95 Bridge fell into the Mianus River.   I had been running with a team truck from KLM out of Jackson, Ms. They stoped at the Last toll plaza on the NYThruway to call in; They went into the river;  I kept rolling, and stopped at the second rest area in Conn. for a break.  With no CB radio and no AM radio, I did not find out about the bridge collapse,until I was at the CT/RI  line. The traffic for the middle of the wek was almost nil, and I stopped to ask why.

 

 


 

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Posted by rvos1979 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:24 PM
All: What actually fell down in Cincinnati was the old off ramp bridge from I 75 north to Hopple St. They were getting ready to break up the concrete deck over the southbound lanes when the span dropped. Wild guess here, but I think somebody hit a part of the structure that they shouldn't have, and it gave way. The JB Hunt driver probably had to have the driver's seat surgically removed from his rear end, though. Went past the following afternoon, they were still investigating......

Taking my last trip to Texas for a while, I have decided to switch to a different trucking company. Starting in February, I'll be running a dedicated account for Schneider National, which means that I will be home more often, once a week instead of once a month.......

Randy Vos

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:37 PM

Paul of Covington
BaltACD

 

    Does anyone else think it unusual that they allowed traffic to continue to use the highway while they worked on removing the span?

 

No!  There are many bridges that get removed during reconstruction projects.  There is a tremendous amount of 'pre' removal work that takes place prior to actual removal of the beams that cross the highways.  Roads are shut down for the actual removal of the beams.  This appears to have been a result of the 'pre' removal work and the collapse was in no way thought possible prior to it's happening.

Looking at the video, it appears that the right hand side of the bridge comes down first and brings the rest of the bridge down with it.  What was taking place at the right hand side at the time?

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Posted by Norm48327 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:55 PM

A June 2014 view on Google Earth shows them building a new bridge just north of the old one. Perhaps it is open to traffic.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:32 PM

BaltACD

    Does anyone else think it unusual that they allowed traffic to continue to use the highway while they worked on removing the span?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:21 PM

afternoon

icy this morning,foggy outside now.Matt was closed today.Also no confirmation class tonight.Time to do chores.Ns had a westbound in the siding and empty cars uptown.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:13 PM

Here's the spot:  N 39.13899 W 84.53460

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Posted by BaltACD on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:59 PM

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:11 PM

Memo to Tree et al:  I know you look in on Overspoor.  They have a new camera #4.  And right below that a video on the new "dig". 

Moo...

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:20 PM

mudchicken
(Vy a duct? Vy nots a cheeckens? - Marx Bros.)

"The Cocoanuts" 1929, Groucho explaining the resort development plans on a chart to Chico.

Groucho: Now here is a little peninsula and here is a viaduct leading over to the mainland. 

Chico: Why a duck?  Why a no chicken?

 

Leading eventually to the duck on "You Bet Your Life" and the title of the Groucho book Why a Duck?

 

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 4:44 PM

CShaveRR

Is that the one they're tearing down, the Hopple Street Viaduct?  It looked like a pretty spectacular bridge at one point, but was looking kind of ratty lately (we were through there last summer).  Or am I thinking of the Western Hills Viaduct?

 

Western Hills (1932) is the really long dramatic rascal that got heavilly modified in the 80's with the concrete arch structures over Mill Creek...

Hopple (1914)was shorter and a little more ornate until highway construction chopped it up in the 60's...

And then there were the Ludlow  and Eighth Street/River Road viaducts also hopping over the Mill Creek. 1914-1991

 

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 4:27 PM

mudchicken

Mud's old stomping grounds.

(Vy a duct? Vy nots a cheeckens? - Marx Bros.)

 

Ah, Chicken has a wishbone AND a funny bone! 

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:44 PM

Is that the one they're tearing down, the Hopple Street Viaduct?  It looked like a pretty spectacular bridge at one point, but was looking kind of ratty lately (we were through there last summer).  Or am I thinking of the Western Hills Viaduct?

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:32 PM

CShaveRR

It's a bridge that's being demolished over I-75.  The report I saw says one construction worker killed, and 75 will be closed for a couple of days.

 

Found a article on it

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/20/major-i-75-bridge-collapse/22036893/

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:06 AM

Mud's old stomping grounds.

The truck that got nailed apeared to be coming back into CSX's Queensgate TOFC/COFC facility nearby to the west. J.B. Hunt has one lucky drayman.

Driven over/under the old Hopple Street Viaduct hundreds of time in the past en-route to school up Dixmith Ave. Ironically, it was a newer part of the viaduct that fell. (Vy a duct? Vy nots a cheeckens? - Marx Bros.)

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:26 AM

It's a bridge that's being demolished over I-75.  The report I saw says one construction worker killed, and 75 will be closed for a couple of days.

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:14 AM

JoeKoh

morning

Cincinnati is a mess due to a bridge collapse on I-75.Going to get Matt off to school.Have a couple family member check ups to check on today.

stay safe

joe

I haven't seen or heard anything about any bridge collapse on I-75 in Cincinnati on the national media?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 7:14 AM

blhanel

 

 
CShaveRR

...or why one of our members has to wear tin shoes.

 

 

They're collecting dust lately...

 

  Do these tin shoes make my tinfoil hat look big?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:35 AM

morning

Cincinnati is a mess due to a bridge collapse on I-75.Going to get Matt off to school.Have a couple family member check ups to check on today.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 19, 2015 10:44 PM

zugmann

 

 
Murphy Siding

 

 

 

 

  What's plan B?  Sounds like you're subconcious is telling you to look for a different vocation?  Steal your daddy's que and make a living out of playing pool?

 

 

 

 

 

No clue.

 

 There's nothing quite like that sinking feeling of drifting, but not knowing to where.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, January 19, 2015 10:43 PM

zugmann

 

 
Murphy Siding
I think you may underestimate the amount of luster. I enjoyed reading it, but simply have nothing to add.

 

 

If you're going to give me charity, I'd prefer cash.  Or cartoons.

 

 Oh charity.  I thought you said clarity, and that wasn't making a lot of sense. Turns out, a lot of time I don't pay enough attention when I read.

     I won't be able to do much in the cash department.  Do you take S&H Greenstamps?  Mookie could attest to the fact that my cartoons aren't much to right home about.

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Posted by blhanel on Monday, January 19, 2015 8:48 PM

CShaveRR

...or why one of our members has to wear tin shoes.

 

They're collecting dust lately...

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