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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, February 20, 2015 3:30 PM

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afternoon

another day for the Ns train in the siding.Nothing uptown for the local.Ran an errand in town after we got home.Tow truck was busy with a fender bender.Work is busy so tomorrow I must go.

stay safe

Joe

 

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Posted by AgentKid on Friday, February 20, 2015 6:08 PM

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I kind of like Highway thru Hell.  The 2nd season seems to have less phony drama than the first, thankfully.

FWIW, the CPR men working in Revelstoke, BC are saying if you want to see real snowfall you should come up to the Rogers Pass!

Wow

Interesting reading all of the weather comments lately. I look at the Rochelle Web Cam most days, and except for a handful of them since Christmas, our weather here has been warmer and drier that what I see there. It seems winter is happening in new locations this year.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:51 AM

afternoon

BaltACD it was a mixed frieght train.I think they pulled it down the siding further and took the power.The power was there yesterday when I left work.Today it's a group of cars.The tail(fred) end is at our parking lot where I work.snow still falling.Matt is out on the snow mountain with the neighbor kids.Mamma made chilli for lunch.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by mudchicken on Sunday, February 22, 2015 6:51 PM

Finally getting some moisture, and as usual, the weather guessers flunked their audition. (A foot over the last two days and not when they predicted it) Nigel the weatherdog is starting to get a little of this weary of this as he slowly plows through the back yard. He's voting for extra snooze time in front of the fireplace.

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Posted by rvos1979 on Sunday, February 22, 2015 7:34 PM

Would someone mind turning the heat back on?!?  Three above in Fond Du Lac, plummeting to negative 12 for a low tonight.  Guess I could have stayed at the house longer today, load they gave me doesn't pick up until tomorrow morning.  Maybe that will give the south time to get rid of the ice that is forecast to fall tomorrow..........

Stay warm, everyone...........

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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, February 22, 2015 8:10 PM

mudchicken

Finally getting some moisture, and as usual, the weather guessers flunked their audition. (A foot over the last two days and not when they predicted it) Nigel the weatherdog is starting to get a little of this weary of this as he slowly plows through the back yard. He's voting for extra snooze time in front of the fireplace.

 

wonder if Nigel would mind sharing his fireplace?  I would bring my own blanket and pillow....

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:00 PM

It was in the upper 20s when I went to bed last night, upper teens when I got up this morning, 7 above right now, and going down to 6 below overnight.  Not much relief in sight for the next week; chance of a couple of bouts with the snow.

We have a little trip to make next weekend; it will probably be colder yet where we're headed.  Any railfanning will probably be done from the confines of the car. (Going to see what CP and Downton Abbey have in common.  I must know somethin', but I won't say nuttin' else.)

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, February 22, 2015 9:14 PM

Left for the train show this morning under dismal skies, drove into some sunlight, then into more gray skies.  But the temperatures weren't bad, and aside from some black ice on the way (I felt it, after another driver ended up into the guardrail ahead of me), it was a decent trip, and a decent day.  Too bad the attendance at the train show was equally dismal.  Not sure why.

After stopping into daughter's place for supper and a visit with the grandkids, headed home.  Stopped for gas nearby and noted a "mist" of snow falling.  The further north I went, the worse it got.

Stopped at the grocery store for a couple of items.  When I came out, the snow had stopped, and stayed stopped the rest of the way home.  

Sheesh!

From what I got from the scanner, CSX might be a little bound up around Syracuse.  Several trains waiting recrews, and Amtrak had to thread their way through standing freights at least once.

Long day.  Time for bed.

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, February 23, 2015 11:13 AM

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zugmann

I kind of like Highway thru Hell.  The 2nd season seems to have less phony drama than the first, thankfully.

 

 

FWIW, the CPR men working in Revelstoke, BC are saying if you want to see real snowfall you should come up to the Rogers Pass!

Wow

Interesting reading all of the weather comments lately. I look at the Rochelle Web Cam most days, and except for a handful of them since Christmas, our weather here has been warmer and drier that what I see there. It seems winter is happening in new locations this year.

Bruce

 Highway Thru Hell is interesting....I'm really surprised the trucks and all vehicles come blasting thru the wreck scene even if the clearance is a bare minimum, and....men working at the scene seem {to me}, to be in some danger from it.

No wonder we're seeing so many heavy trucks {on that program}, envolved in these wrecks.....Driving way over conditions in front of them.

Quentin...

 

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 23, 2015 11:36 AM

Welcome back, Quentin. Who's that handsome guy in your avatar?

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 23, 2015 1:01 PM

Modelcar
I'm really surprised the trucks and all vehicles come blasting thru the wreck scene even if the clearance is a bare minimum, and....men working at the scene seem {to me}, to be in some danger from it.

Come work an accident scene with me some time - that's normal behavior.   And if you stop them and tell them they need to slow down, they get huffy...

That's why there are now  move over laws which have the intention of saving responders lives.  We've taken to putting big, extremely expensive fire apparatus between oncoming cars and our people when working on a scene.  You'd think that people would see a big vehicle with lots of flashing lights and reflective material, but somehow those blocking vehicles are hit with amazing regularity.

And some drivers manage to go around the blocking vehicles and hit responders anyhow.

We're also mandated to wear hi-viz apparel when working in and around the roadway.  Ironically, the first firefighter struck at a scene after the law took effect was wearing his hi-viz gear.

It's a dangerous world out there.

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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, February 23, 2015 1:17 PM

MischiefAmen - and just try to take the offender's driving priviledges away because he/she did something BEYOND stupid.

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, February 23, 2015 2:43 PM

tree68
Modelcar
I'm really surprised the trucks and all vehicles come blasting thru the wreck scene even if the clearance is a bare minimum, and....men working at the scene seem {to me}, to be in some danger from it.

 

That's why there are now  move over laws which have the intention of saving responders lives.  We've taken to putting big, extremely expensive fire apparatus between oncoming cars and our people when working on a scene.  You'd think that people would see a big vehicle with lots of flashing lights and reflective material, but somehow those blocking vehicles are hit with amazing regularity.

And some drivers manage to go around the blocking vehicles and hit responders anyhow.

We're also mandated to wear hi-viz apparel when working in and around the roadway.  Ironically, the first firefighter struck at a scene after the law took effect was wearing his hi-viz gear.

It's a dangerous world out there.

 

Personal observation - the new LED emergency lights - at night are blinding.  I suspect, because of their brightness some drivers have a 'target fixation' response and are drawn to the lights like moths to a light.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, February 23, 2015 3:20 PM

BaltACD
Personal observation - the new LED emergency lights - at night are blinding. I suspect, because of their brightness some drivers have a 'target fixation' response and are drawn to the lights like moths to a light.

Mnay of those lightbars can be dimmed.  But for whatever reason, that feature doesn't seem to be used very much.

 

Plus the wild disco patterns (with tons of clear lights - takedowns, alleys, reverse lights etc.-) are extremely annoying.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, February 23, 2015 3:33 PM

To larry/ tree68's post above:

"+1" x about 5.

Used to be a big sign at the guard post for traffic leaving the Willow Grove Naval Air Station ("WGNAS", about 20 miles northeast of Philadelphia, PA), something like this:

"You are now entering the most dangerous area in the U.S. - a public highway."

I've tried to find a photo of it or a similar one on-line, but no luck so far . . .

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, February 23, 2015 3:41 PM

BaltACD
Personal observation - the new LED emergency lights - at night are blinding.  I suspect, because of their brightness some drivers have a 'target fixation' response and are drawn to the lights like moths to a light.

They can be blinding, and oftimes can be dimmed.  My personal vehicle lightbar cannot, and being blue it is even more blinding at night than red.  In fact, neither of our new trucks with LED light bars can be dimmed.

Most apparatus automatically kill any white flashing lights when the brake is set or placed in "park."  Both of our new apparatus give us the ability to kill the whites enroute as well, which most of us will do at night.

We also make it a practice to turn off the headlights at highway scenes so you can see traffic control personnel.

Studies have shown that drunks tend to be drawn to red lights.  We've known that for a while.

At least one major fire department kills all red lights on the scene, using amber instead.  

The quandry comes with the fact that many folks will essentially ignore amber lights - it's "just" a wrecker or a highway crew.

I was recently reading that a version of the red elements for traffic lights which contains strobing white LEDs as an additional attention getter in high hazard areas is falling out of official favor.  I kinda like them.

 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:00 PM

Smile, Wink & Grin

mudchicken
MischiefAmen - and just try to take the offender's driving priviledges away because he/she did something BEYOND stupid.
Here's one way to do it:

A passed-out drunk wrecked his car at an intersection (Tobyhanna, PA 611 & 423, not far from the Del-Lack RR's ALCo's) in one of my work zones late one Thursday afternoon last October.  Angels must have been watching over all of us, because he just barely missed 2 traffic signal masts (the tires left scuff marks on the anchor bolts of one of them !), a bunch of smaller signs, and didn't turn over after the car went up and down an 8' high embankment, didn't hit any vehicles as he rolled across a 4-lane highway and into a turning lane at the intersection, nor did he hit any of the pipeline workers, traffic control devices, or construction equipment.  When they broke the window and pulled him out of the wreck, he came to and became combative with the EMT's and responding police officer, who put him in handcuffs.  Because he was unresponsive when they arrived, he was Med-Evac'ed to a big-city hospital for evaluation of concussion, brain trauma, etc.

A few weeks later I picked up the police report on the accident.  Yep - the "Alcohol-Involved ?" box was checked.  But the "Breath-alyzer" and "Blood sample" boxes were both "No".  Huh ?  Why not ? What's going on here ?   

Well, on the next page, in the narrative the officer wrote something like "accident appears to have been caused by seizure".  In Pennsylvania, that's automatic revocation of license, until an MD signs off that the person is fit to drive, which can take as long as 2 years even if there are no serious underlying medical issues.  That's a whole lot more effective penalty than the usual Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition (ARD) result = 30 days or so license suspension, fine, re-education classes, community service, etc.  So there may be some justice after all.

A couple weeks before, a older guy in a 1999+/- Camaro backed into me at a gas station convenience store (same area).  I asked for his insurance card - didn't have it on him.  So I called the police.  Turned out his license was expired, so he was cited for that ($125 fine).  Cop gave him 5 days to submit proof of his insurance.  That didn't happen, so he got cited again for that ($250, as I understand it).   

Last Weds. morning on PA 314 beween Swiftwater and Pocono Manor some clown ran past a flagger's STOP paddle, and then passed me in a double-yellow line zone at well over the speed limit (45 MPH) about 1 mile up the road (2-lane winding country highway).  We compared notes - I had the license number and a partial description of the car, she got a better (but not good) look at the driver.  Responding cop knew from just the description right away where the vehicle came from - "That's a busy house", but proving the ID would be tough because "They all look alike there" . . . Whistling  

Then there's the lady who was following me too closely about a month ago (same road), and (fortunately) went off the road into a snow bank when I slowed to make a left turn - in the middle of a long work zone, lots of orange signs and cones, people and electric line trucks all over the place, yellow blinking light on the back end of the roof of my car, turn signal on in plenty of time (of course) . . .  Wrecker truck driver said we're nuts to work out on that road, he's there all the time picking up people who go off the road or collide with each other . . . he may be onto something, at that . . . Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:04 PM

Paul, you live dangerously.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:10 PM

Perhaps so - but it finds me, I don't go looking for it.  Still, for years - no, decades - I've said that I have no need to go to amusement parks or casinos for excitement . . .

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:19 PM

Dunceafternoon

A young lady wanted to get extra lights on her car.The guy told her she could have any color except red blue or white.Those were reserved for emergency vehicles.She the asked "what's an emergency vehicle??"

had errands to do after work.Ns took the  train out of the siding and replaced it with another train on Saturday.Just the cars are in the siding.The local had cars ready to shuffle when I left work.Now that the ports are going to re-open work is going to be busy busy busy.MC tell Nigel I have a comfoy pillow and sleeping bag too.

stay safe

Joe

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:31 PM

zugmann

 

 
BaltACD
Personal observation - the new LED emergency lights - at night are blinding. I suspect, because of their brightness some drivers have a 'target fixation' response and are drawn to the lights like moths to a light.

 

Mnay of those lightbars can be dimmed.  But for whatever reason, that feature doesn't seem to be used very much.

 

Plus the wild disco patterns (with tons of clear lights - takedowns, alleys, reverse lights etc.-) are extremely annoying.

 

  Combine that with the fact that in our city, the first 15 or so police and firetrucks that show up at a scene park all over the place and leave all the lights flashing.  I wonder sometimes if that's visable from space?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:35 PM

rvos1979

Stay warm, everyone...........

 

  Randy-  Can I ask you a trucking question on a railroad forum?  We get a lot of flatbed trucks delivering into our lumberyard.  It seems like more and more, the longer ones seperate the two back trailer axles but a ways.  One axle will be at the tail end, the other 6 to 8 feet forward.  Why?  Wouldn't this make one set of tires do a fair amount of sliding sideways on a corner?

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Posted by AgentKid on Monday, February 23, 2015 4:49 PM

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I look at the Rochelle Web Cam most days, and except for a handful of them since Christmas, our weather here has been warmer and drier that what I see there.

It must be warmer and drier than I realized. I was just talking to my cleaning lady and we both noticed the City of Calgary has already started the annual practice of adding more treatment chemicals to our drinking water. This normally happens in the spring, just before the winter melt starts, because the river levels drop so much over the winter that the city has to put water through the plants quicker than they would like to meet demand, so they add enough treatment that you can taste it.

When I say spring, I'm thinking more the end of March or early April, not the last week of February.

It is 54º F and sunny right now.

Nice to hear from you Quentin.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, February 23, 2015 8:37 PM

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Stay warm, everyone...........

 

 

 

  Randy-  Can I ask you a trucking question on a railroad forum?  We get a lot of flatbed trucks delivering into our lumberyard.  It seems like more and more, the longer ones seperate the two back trailer axles but a ways.  One axle will be at the tail end, the other 6 to 8 feet forward.  Why?  Wouldn't this make one set of tires do a fair amount of sliding sideways on a corner?

 

 

I have seen both axles moved together, but not separately. The move was made for better weight distribution. If there is something like a differential, or no connection at all between the two wheels on one axle, there would be no problem with skidding.

From time to time, I would receive a load that was the maximum allowable--and the van would not be full, with the pallets spaced by using empty pallets. The load? Sulfuric acid in drums; twelve pallets was the most that could be loaded. Once, I received a shipment which had been  loaded with the pallets in the center, except for two that were side by side--and the outer drums had shifted forward, apparently when the driver had braked suddenly. A local delivery driver showed up at the same dock, and he sat on the floor and pushed the drums back with his feet; he and the other drivers for the same company who showed up regularly were great guys. All of us who dealt with receiving and shipping enjoyed seeing them. I seldom saw OTR men or women more than once.

There was a local driver for one company who was quite interesting--even if I were at the front of the building I could tell that he had arrived--BAM! I think that the building was about half a foot farther east than it was when it was built. 

 

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Posted by narig01 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:25 PM
Murphy Siding

rvos1979

Stay warm, everyone...........

Randy- Can I ask you a trucking question on a railroad forum? We get a lot of flatbed trucks delivering into our lumberyard. It seems like more and more, the longer ones seperate the two back trailer axles but a ways. One axle will be at the tail end, the other 6 to 8 feet forward. Why? Wouldn't this make one set of tires do a fair amount of sliding sideways on a corner?

I have seen both axles moved together, but not separately. The move was made for better weight distribution. If there is something like a differential, or no connection at all between the two wheels on one axle, there would be no problem with skidding.



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Many flatbed trailers have what is called a spread axle. This is where the axles are spread 8ft apart. This is much more common on newer trailers and on stepdeck trailers(those with a lower deck aft of the tractors drive wheels). The advantage is this, with tandem axles you are allowed 34000lbs on the axle group. With a single axle that is 8 ft or more from another axle you can have 20000lbs on that single axle and '2 single axles ' gives you 40000lbs on the trailer axles. In other words 6000lbs more weight on the trailer axles. The disadvantage is when you have to make a sharp turn(say when jacking the trailer to turn into a dock or parking space) it puts a lot of wear and tear on the tyres. (I have seen trailer tyres popped off their rims from the stress on several occasions) . The fancier trailer of this type has a slider mechanism that allows the two axles to be slid separately.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:38 PM

Deggesty

Paul, you live dangerously.

 

Johnny(Deggeesty) is spot on, Paul.  Thumbs UpThumbs Up.  
Paul, you might even consider some type of armored vehicle for your work truck!  Either that, or consider some type of divine intervention?
 
Highway, or any type of road constructuion activities have a personnel danger level some where near that of an explosive technician.    Except that the technician has some control over their danger, while the Construction Worker is always in someone's target area.Sigh  Be Safe!
 
 
 

 

 


 

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:11 PM

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Smile, Wink & Grin

 
mudchicken
MischiefAmen - and just try to take the offender's driving priviledges away because he/she did something BEYOND stupid.

Here's one way to do it:

 

A passed-out drunk wrecked his car at an intersection (Tobyhanna, PA 611 & 423, not far from the Del-Lack RR's ALCo's) in one of my work zones late one Thursday afternoon last October.  Angels must have been watching over all of us, because he just barely missed 2 traffic signal masts (the tires left scuff marks on the anchor bolts of one of them !), a bunch of smaller signs, and didn't turn over after the car went up and down an 8' high embankment, didn't hit any vehicles as he rolled across a 4-lane highway and into a turning lane at the intersection, nor did he hit any of the pipeline workers, traffic control devices, or construction equipment.  When they broke the window and pulled him out of the wreck, he came to and became combative with the EMT's and responding police officer, who put him in handcuffs.  Because he was unresponsive when they arrived, he was Med-Evac'ed to a big-city hospital for evaluation of concussion, brain trauma, etc.

A few weeks later I picked up the police report on the accident.  Yep - the "Alcohol-Involved ?" box was checked.  But the "Breath-alyzer" and "Blood sample" boxes were both "No".  Huh ?  Why not ? What's going on here ?   

Well, on the next page, in the narrative the officer wrote something like "accident appears to have been caused by seizure".  In Pennsylvania, that's automatic revocation of license, until an MD signs off that the person is fit to drive, which can take as long as 2 years even if there are no serious underlying medical issues.  That's a whole lot more effective penalty than the usual Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition (ARD) result = 30 days or so license suspension, fine, re-education classes, community service, etc.  So there may be some justice after all.

A couple weeks before, a older guy in a 1999+/- Camaro backed into me at a gas station convenience store (same area).  I asked for his insurance card - didn't have it on him.  So I called the police.  Turned out his license was expired, so he was cited for that ($125 fine).  Cop gave him 5 days to submit proof of his insurance.  That didn't happen, so he got cited again for that ($250, as I understand it).   

Last Weds. morning on PA 314 beween Swiftwater and Pocono Manor some clown ran past a flagger's STOP paddle, and then passed me in a double-yellow line zone at well over the speed limit (45 MPH) about 1 mile up the road (2-lane winding country highway).  We compared notes - I had the license number and a partial description of the car, she got a better (but not good) look at the driver.  Responding cop knew from just the description right away where the vehicle came from - "That's a busy house", but proving the ID would be tough because "They all look alike there" . . . Whistling  

Then there's the lady who was following me too closely about a month ago (same road), and (fortunately) went off the road into a snow bank when I slowed to make a left turn - in the middle of a long work zone, lots of orange signs and cones, people and electric line trucks all over the place, yellow blinking light on the back end of the roof of my car, turn signal on in plenty of time (of course) . . .  Wrecker truck driver said we're nuts to work out on that road, he's there all the time picking up people who go off the road or collide with each other . . . he may be onto something, at that . . . Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:15 PM

afternoon

work wasn't as busy today.Ns still has cars in the siding.Cars are waiting for the local too.Doing chores.Need to check Matt's homework too.

stay safe

Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by rvos1979 on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:02 PM

Murphy:  Saw your post this morning, but had to fly.   IGN answered it for me, I will add that the fancier trailers are set up to dump the air from the air bags on one axle and lift it off the ground when maneuvering in tight quarters, cuts down on the tire wear........

Ran from Matthews, MO to Monroe, LA, then down here to Woodville, MS. Picking up 20 miles away, then headed back towards home.  I'm getting to like this gig.........

Randy Vos

"Ever have one of those days where you couldn't hit the ground with your hat??" - Waylon Jennings

"May the Lord take a liking to you and blow you up, real good" - SCTV

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:19 PM

    Oof duh!  We had quite a day.  Youngest son-16- has mono, hepatitis, and some other complictions going on.  Today he got dehydrated and fainted at lunch time and we ended up in the ER.  It looks like he'll be in the hospital overnight as they pump him up with fluids, steroids and painkillers.  Mom is staying the night as well, on the ever comfortable, hospital fold-away couch/bed.

Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.

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