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Do the dispatchers get out of the control room and tour the rail system?

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Posted by Wizlish on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:32 AM

Murphy Siding
Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! I think I know this one! He shaves his head so he doesn't pull his hair out?

No, he pulled it out so completely he doesn't have to shave it 'pre-emptively'.  And what little grows in gets pulled out before it can 'show'...

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM

Wizlish

 

 
tree68
The line has plenty of crossovers, but at oh-dark-thirty, there's a lot of traffic on the line, too, so I now understand why at least one of the DSs on that section keeps his head shaved...

 

What makes you think he shaves it to make it look that way... ?

 

  Ooh!  Ooh!  Pick me!   I think I know this one!  He shaves his head so he doesn't pull his hair out?

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Posted by Wizlish on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:08 AM

tree68
The line has plenty of crossovers, but at oh-dark-thirty, there's a lot of traffic on the line, too, so I now understand why at least one of the DSs on that section keeps his head shaved...

What makes you think he shaves it to make it look that way... ?

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 29, 2014 11:13 PM

Hiccups that give DSs ulcers - a portion of the CSX Chicago Line turned into a parking lot, at least for a little while, when a train suffered either an unintended emergency application or got tagged by the defect detector (I missed which it was), which not only delayed the train while it was inspected, but also caused the crew to run out of time, so the train got parked a little further down the line.  On the main.

Then a train that had apparently been hung up behind the first had it's lead loco quit, which threatened to lengthen the parking lot.  They got that one started again.

The line has plenty of crossovers, but at oh-dark-thirty, there's a lot of traffic on the line, too, so I now understand why at least one of the DSs on that section keeps his head shaved...

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Posted by diningcar on Monday, December 29, 2014 9:37 PM

I drive I-40 between Williams, AZ and Albuquerque several times a year and have my scanner turned on to listen to the BNSF operations which parallell the highway. Most of you know this is double track CTC with 50 MPH x-overs about every 10 miles and it has Amtraks 3 and 4 to mix with the BNSF's 100 +- trains each day. I am amazed at how well the crews and the DS's make this work.

There is a DS assigned to each: Belen-Gallup; Gallup-Winslow; Winsolw-Seligman and Seligman-Needles. The very polite communication which occurs indicates that these people have become accquainted and respect each other.

Yes, there are anomolies where the s... encounters the fan; and when the crews have to be picked up because of HOS, but sometimes trains are stopped, crews exchanged and everything keeps going. 

If any of you have the opportunity to listen as you follow the Transcon on I-40 I recommend this for your entertainment.  

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Monday, December 29, 2014 8:49 PM

Current ATDA contract on my carrier does not permit Relief jobs covering more than one desk (territory).  The Tag Day (unfilled rest day) is covered from the extra list.

Despite road knowledge 'S..T Happens' and mistakes get caused by a bad decision that was made 4 hours earlier and was unable to be rectified by unfolding events.

Successful Dispatching is all about VISION.  The ability to know enough about the operations that will be happening over the next 6 to 8 hours, and the ability to plan for those movements to not be in conflict with each other.  Knowing the length, tonnage, power and HOS times for each train on his territory and where each train can fit on sidings on single track territories as well as the consequences of stopping at train at those sidings (grades for getting started as well as grade crossings in the siding). 

Trains have specific work they are expected to accomplish - pickups, set offs, crew changes, yarding in a terminal, moving to a different subdivision, passenger operations, station stops - etc. etc. etc.  In most of these actions the train doing the work must be on a specific track at a specific location to accomplish its task.  Trains may be prevented from doing their normal 'work' because the yard or terminal is not ready for their move - maybe for 10 minutes - maybe for an hour - maybe for 4 hours - maybe for more than 12 hours - the circumstance are constantly changing.

The simple act of lining signals is the least of the Dispatchers concerns.  Handling 'mandatory directives' with train crews and MofW personnel which require transmission of the directive to the field personnel in a specified form as well as the field personnel repeating the directive they have copied in the exact form it was transmitted - this applies to any 'train message' that needs to be transmitted to trains (Slow orders, weather orders, Annulment of orders the trains already hold and anything else that a train must be formally notified of).

 

Any idiot can line signals - a Train Dispatcher knows when NOT to line signals.

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Posted by dakotafred on Monday, December 29, 2014 8:29 PM

Andrew Falconer

The dispatcher's view on the computer monitors would be enhanced by topographical maps made from satellite gathered measurments and images.

Why didn't you say so in your original post? Maybe dispatchers don't have to get out of their bunkers anymore.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, December 29, 2014 8:02 PM

dakotafred

Even if they did, it would be hard for them to master the vast geography of the territory they control.

In a Trains piece, Doyle McCormack (sp.), the PA restorer, told of his dispatcher father having to go out on the line once a year. And that was to stay qualified on his 100-mile district!

Today, a locomotive-engineer friend complains of Texas-based dispatchers often doing things like putting his coal train in the hole at the bottom of the worst hill on the division. We can be reasonably sure the dispatcher isn't stupid ... but he IS a thousand miles removed from my friend's train in North Dakota!

 

I have long had the impression that the DS (or, Delayer) had to know the topography of the area of his responsibility. Pity the man who has to work five different areas during his work week--I assume that each DS works five 8 hour shifts a week; it would take four DS's, each working 5 shifts--plus one who moves around from area to area to provide 24/7 coverage.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, December 29, 2014 7:54 PM

The dispatcher's view on the computer monitors would be enhanced by topographical maps made from satellite gathered measurments and images.

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Posted by dakotafred on Monday, December 29, 2014 7:44 PM

Even if they did, it would be hard for them to master the vast geography of the territory they control.

In a Trains piece, Doyle McCormack (sp.), the PA restorer, told of his dispatcher father having to go out on the line once a year. And that was to stay qualified on his 100-mile district!

Today, a locomotive-engineer friend complains of Texas-based dispatchers often doing things like putting his coal train in the hole at the bottom of the worst hill on the division. We can be reasonably sure the dispatcher isn't stupid ... but he IS a thousand miles removed from my friend's train in North Dakota!

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Do the dispatchers get out of the control room and tour the rail system?
Posted by Andrew Falconer on Monday, December 29, 2014 6:20 PM

The dispatchers are often controlling the trains in an abstract and symbolic manner on video screens.

They have to relate the symbols to real objects, places, and people in their minds.

 

Do the dispatchers get out of the control room and tour the rail system? 

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