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RRs say "Please no polar vortex 2014-15"

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, November 9, 2014 9:49 PM

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My position has always been that, as much as possible, we should try to take a child-like attitude toward winter and snow, enjoying the beauty and the play possibilities. Remember those?

 

I still view winter as a challenge.  I'm not a winter sports type - skiing and snowmobiling aren't my forte.  But there's something to be said for the satisfaction one gets upon seeing one's driveway all cleaned off.  At least until the snowplow comes by again....

That's why I have a snowblower.

I've heard several people who moved out of the north woods say they loaded their snowblower in the back of their pick-up, then drove south until someone asked what it was.  Then they knew they were far enough south...

 

Larry, that's a new one to me--"What's that tractor-like thing in the back of your pickup? Is it a new kind of cultivator?" I had heard of sailors who, when tired of the sea, would shoulder an oar and walk inland until someone asked, "What's that thing you are carrying?"

Occasionally, MC will blame me for letting bad weather cross the Rockies to the Front Range--I'm INNOCENT!

Katie and I are going to have to buy a new snowblower this fall; mine has an electric starter, but it clogs up quickly if the snow is wet; hers did not clog up, but was very hard to start, and it was uneconomical to repair. I got by without snowtires last winter, but I had to be careful as to the streets I drove on (the north-south streets in the Avenues are steep, rising about 800 feet above most of the city) and not all are plowed quickly after a really noticeable snowfall.

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Posted by cx500 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:53 PM

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Concerning nasty winter weather...

Look folks, I've tried and tried to get a work party together to weather-strip the Canadian border and keep the cold up there where it belongs, but I can't get anyone interested.

So don't blame me.

 

I hope you realise that the border to weatherstrip is that between Alaska and Canada.  Much shorter than the 49th parallel, and then we both get the benefit. 

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:08 PM

dakotafred
My position has always been that, as much as possible, we should try to take a child-like attitude toward winter and snow, enjoying the beauty and the play possibilities. Remember those?

I still view winter as a challenge.  I'm not a winter sports type - skiing and snowmobiling aren't my forte.  But there's something to be said for the satisfaction one gets upon seeing one's driveway all cleaned off.  At least until the snowplow comes by again....

That's why I have a snowblower.

I've heard several people who moved out of the north woods say they loaded their snowblower in the back of their pick-up, then drove south until someone asked what it was.  Then they knew they were far enough south...

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Posted by dakotafred on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:54 PM

My position has always been that, as much as possible, we should try to take a child-like attitude toward winter and snow, enjoying the beauty and the play possibilities. Remember those?

Granted, this is sometimes a hard thought to hang onto when one has to fight to go to work every day and attend to other duties associated with winter.

Nevertheless ...

As long as we've chosen or are fated to live in the North ... we might as well be good-humored about it. Let those more favorably situated think we enjoy it, even when we don't ... and worry that they might be missing out!

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Posted by LOCO_GUY on Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:16 PM

I live in the south - so a nice polar vortex will bring some nice fall like weather to us. Sorry for all you folks up north - but you can always move to Florida :-)

I am originally from the UK - when it snows there EVERYTHING stops. I remember waiting for a train to arrive one Christmas and we got about 1/2 inch of snow - just a few flakes. The train was delayed for about 5 hours - go figure.

One positive aspect is that the kids will get "snow days" - or maybe that aint such a positive for you mom's and pop's out there.

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Posted by Firelock76 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:53 PM

Concerning nasty winter weather...

Look folks, I've tried and tried to get a work party together to weather-strip the Canadian border and keep the cold up there where it belongs, but I can't get anyone interested.

So don't blame me.

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Posted by dakotafred on Sunday, November 9, 2014 6:32 PM

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I believe I've started and contributed to my share of both railroad and model railroad threads on the TRAINS forums, thank you. I'm not "hectoring" anyone, just sharing an opinion in a polite way. And, while we're at it, using my real name.

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You realize of course, John, that to a stranger one's real name is as good a disguise as a blog handle or other pseudonym! Wink
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Posted by petitnj on Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:05 AM

Central Minnesota is forecast for 10" of snow Monday thru Tuesday. This is a typical time to get significant snow as the air still has some moisture and a cold air mass from Canada can trigger significant snow. Right now it is snowing across MT and ND and that will slide into MN by Monday. Should be the end of the Empire Builder for the season (already 5 hours late eastbound and that was before the snow). I suspect all the contingency plans in the world won't help when the snow hits. 

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Posted by Boyd on Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:26 AM

If rather opt for the "Polar Opposite or a Chevy Vortex". 

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Posted by tree68 on Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:46 PM

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I thought that perspiration was a "come hither" to mosquitoes rather than a repellant.

I think it depends on your diet - some food items are more repellent to skeeters than others.

Regardless, I've heard that it's the CO2 in your exhaled breath that attracts them.  Unfortunately, holding your breath for long periods of time isn't usually all that easy...

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, November 8, 2014 7:37 PM

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Beware - down here mosquito repellant ranks right behind food, clothing and shelter as a necessity of life.

 

Wait, you found one that works?

 

 

 

 

Maybe deterrant would be a better description than repellant.  Nothing works totally.  I spray on a heavy dose, and wear one of those gadgets on my belt.  Plus, if I'm sweating a lot the smell would stop a charging rhino, which helps a little.

 

I thought that perspiration was a "come hither" to mosquitoes rather than a repellant.

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Posted by SALfan on Saturday, November 8, 2014 6:17 PM

edblysard

 

 
SALfa
 

 

Beware - down here mosquito repellant ranks right behind food, clothing and shelter as a necessity of life.

 

Wait, you found one that works?

 

 

Maybe deterrant would be a better description than repellant.  Nothing works totally.  I spray on a heavy dose, and wear one of those gadgets on my belt.  Plus, if I'm sweating a lot the smell would stop a charging rhino, which helps a little.

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Posted by desertdog on Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:06 AM

I believe I've started and contributed to my share of both railroad and model railroad threads on the TRAINS forums, thank you. I'm not "hectoring" anyone, just sharing an opinion in a polite way. And, while we're at it, using my real name.

 

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Posted by greyhounds on Saturday, November 8, 2014 12:41 AM

dakotafred
iven your mature philosophy about the weather, why would an old railroader move from the center of the railroad universe to boring old Florida? Or do the dogs run faster down there?

IMHO, "boring" is highly underated.  I feel that one should often seek excitement, challenge and entertainment.  But, at a somewhat advanced age, such things should be sought out rather than thrust upon us.  For example, I no longer enjoy having my truck go down an icy road sideways.  And I certainly do not enjoy waking up to find two feet of white "Global Warming" covering my driveway.  

But you are right.  Florida is definitely in the railroading minor leagues compared to Chicago.  Some years ago I did a contract job in Orlando.  I would go out to see the trains.  I noticed it was all single track.  And that just ain't major league railroading like we have around here.

But, all in all, I can enjoy a minor league game as much as I enjoy a major league game.   Loosing the snow and ice will be nice.

And yes, the best Racing Greyhounds do tend to run in Florida.  (I seem to like things that run on tracks.)

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:46 PM

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Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

 

 

 

Just remember - you will have to go work in all that "real weather" at some point.  It never fails!

 

 

I've already had the 100+ , no shade beatdown.  Ready for sumpthin' cooler.

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, November 7, 2014 8:38 PM

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Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

 Seems to me, if you find threads about trains lacking, the best thing to do would be to start one.  Try starting one about something that interests you, and see if it attracts interest from others with similar interests..... You never know.

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Posted by dakotafred on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:59 PM

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Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

 

 

Yup, there is something like a thousand threads dealing with just that subject, why don't you go read one and enjoy.

The "polar vortex" -- latest buzzword -- certainly has implications for railroads, as we saw last winter. If we go off on a tangent about it -- so what?

Desertdog has dipped into the thread and found it wanting. Again, so what? Instead of hectoring the rest of us, let him simply move on to a thread that interests him more and leave the rest of us alone. 

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:58 PM

mudchicken

Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

 

Just remember - you will have to go work in all that "real weather" at some point.  It never fails!

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:24 PM

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Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm

Based on the shellacking the railroads got from the weather last year, the topic is, well, topical.

It may not be locomotive color schemes, but it does have to do with railroads...

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:45 PM

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Shoot, who knows?

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Don't worry about something you cannot control.  It's a wasted emotion. 

 

 

 

Beware - down here mosquito repellant ranks right behind food, clothing and shelter as a necessity of life.

 

 

Wait, you found one that works?

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:43 PM

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Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

Yup, there is something like a thousand threads dealing with just that subject, why don't you go read one and enjoy.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:12 PM

No!

 

We only discuss Rocket Science, Brain Surgery and Thread Police.  Are you one?

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Posted by desertdog on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:08 PM

zardoz

 

 
desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

 

 

What did you expect when you decided to view a thread with a non-railroad title?  Yes, I know this a trains forum, but we're not that rigid around here (usually).

 

I think of this forum as a sort of coffee shop, where one can come in and more-or-less talk about a variety of subjects, except politics and religion.

There are lots of threads I do not visit simply because the thread title suggests subject matter in which I will likely not be interested.

 

 

There are other threads here that are more suitable. Why start a new one? 

As for thread titles, sometimes they indicate the content, sometimes not.

I stand by my original question.

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:58 PM

Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by SALfan on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:17 PM

greyhounds

Shoot, who knows?

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Don't worry about something you cannot control.  It's a wasted emotion. 

 

Beware - down here mosquito repellant ranks right behind food, clothing and shelter as a necessity of life.

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:45 PM
I hope we only get 100" here in northern Michigan. Last year we got 188".
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Posted by zardoz on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:35 PM

desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

What did you expect when you decided to view a thread with a non-railroad title?  Yes, I know this a trains forum, but we're not that rigid around here (usually).

I think of this forum as a sort of coffee shop, where one can come in and more-or-less talk about a variety of subjects, except politics and religion.

There are lots of threads I do not visit simply because the thread title suggests subject matter in which I will likely not be interested.

 

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, November 7, 2014 12:53 PM

The Polar Vortex has several points of interest.

1.  It has been identified and named.  Not  any three sentence awarkward descriptions of what is happening. Now business and general public know what it is.

2.  The identification has alowed forecasters to realize what some of the causes are.

3.  We now know super typhones, hurricanes, nor easters, other extreme lows and highs, etc can cause vortexes and where the next one will happen.

4.  Most importantly additional days before one happens give more time for all kinds of business can prepare as well as government ..

5.  RRs in particular can plan ahead to mitigate the results of cold temps, snow, high winds etc.. i

Cannot believe how in flight weather conditions are getting improved forecasts.

 

 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:56 AM

See, now, that's the nice part about living in a place where 100" of snow is the norm.  The town highway department stocked the plows up with sand/salt a little earlier than normal, but aside from that, life just goes on.

Up here, the only reason to delay schools is because the parking lots aren't plowed yet, or else it's really bad for driving, visibility-wise.  Otherwise, half a foot of snow is nothing...

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Posted by desertdog on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:55 AM
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm

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