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RRs say "Please no polar vortex 2014-15"
Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:43 PM

Super Typhoon Nuri is reported to have initiated a polar vortex in the midwest starting tonight for 4 - 5 days. Bitter temps in midwest and heavy wind chill.  Hopefully the vortex will move out completely in a week and not stay around.  You posters in affected area watch out. 

Will this affect the wind up of the construction season that has been going on all summer ?  Plus is Amtrak and RRs operationally ready ?

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:49 PM

The universal winter contingency plan has been enacted by all parties - Prayers for Spring are being offered.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Thursday, November 6, 2014 6:30 PM

blue streak 1

 polar vortex

 

 

The media totally wore out that term last winter.

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Thursday, November 6, 2014 7:07 PM

Norm48327
  polar vortex

The media totally wore out that term last winter.

 

 
Yes but it may explain Germany's failure of the Russian invasion in winter ?  Maybe explains when a country(s) experience a bitter winter ?
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:25 PM

blue streak 1

 

 
Norm48327
  polar vortex

The media totally wore out that term last winter.

 

 

 
Yes but it may explain Germany's failure of the Russian invasion in winter ?  Maybe explains when a country(s) experience a bitter winter ?
 

 Or maybe just a coincidence? Mischief

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Posted by zardoz on Thursday, November 6, 2014 9:20 PM

Murphy Siding

 

 
blue streak 1

 

 
Norm48327
  polar vortex

The media totally wore out that term last winter.

 

 

 
Yes but it may explain Germany's failure of the Russian invasion in winter ?  Maybe explains when a country(s) experience a bitter winter ?
 

 

 

 Or maybe just a coincidence? Mischief

 

 

Not a coincidence. The "Polar Vortex" has been around since long before the media got hold of it. In the past it was not as pervasive and did not affect so many people. If it happened in Siberia, hardly anyone outside of Russia even knew about it. 

Just like death from tornados, hurricanes, and floods. The storms may or may not be any more severe; it's just that there are so many more people who put themselves in harms way by building in locations that are known to be hazardous.  In addition, some storms in the past may not have been reported due to less-densely populated areas.

Of course, it is also possible that we humans have already warmed this planet past its climatological tipping point, and that storms will continue to get stronger and more frequent, until some major disaster alters the course of human destiny.

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Posted by Gramp on Thursday, November 6, 2014 10:26 PM

I'm not saying I know, but after about 15 years of no appreciable increase in world temperature, I think of it as being back to old fashioned winters.  I can't say as much for the level of hyperbole emitted in the media.  It seems to know no bounds.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:00 PM

Just a few weeks ago I read an article in the Des Moines paper, or maybe it's USA Today supplement, about whether we would experience the Polar Vortex this winter.  Some expert said the conditions weren't right this year.  So tonight on the CBS news I hear they are talking about the Polar Vortex.  So much for experts.

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Posted by greyhounds on Friday, November 7, 2014 12:37 AM

Shoot, who knows?

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:12 AM
Why should we accept forecasts based on models for 30 years from now until they can get tomorrows forecast correct?
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Posted by rdamon on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:15 AM

As long as they give the storm a cool sounding name, it will be ok!

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:18 AM

greyhounds

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Somebody tried to tell me you can get shoes from a python or alligator. I can figure an alligator, but pythons don't have feet, so where do you find their shoes?

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Posted by dakotafred on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:48 AM

greyhounds

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Given your mature philosophy about the weather, why would an old railroader move from the center of the railroad universe to boring old Florida? Or do the dogs run faster down there?

 

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Posted by Deggesty on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:24 AM

gardendance
 
greyhounds

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

 

 

Somebody tried to tell me you can get shoes from a python or alligator. I can figure an alligator, but pythons don't have feet, so where do you find their shoes?

 

Where do you find shoes when you catch a python? Look in its stomach.

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Posted by desertdog on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:55 AM
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
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Posted by tree68 on Friday, November 7, 2014 11:56 AM

See, now, that's the nice part about living in a place where 100" of snow is the norm.  The town highway department stocked the plows up with sand/salt a little earlier than normal, but aside from that, life just goes on.

Up here, the only reason to delay schools is because the parking lots aren't plowed yet, or else it's really bad for driving, visibility-wise.  Otherwise, half a foot of snow is nothing...

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Posted by blue streak 1 on Friday, November 7, 2014 12:53 PM

The Polar Vortex has several points of interest.

1.  It has been identified and named.  Not  any three sentence awarkward descriptions of what is happening. Now business and general public know what it is.

2.  The identification has alowed forecasters to realize what some of the causes are.

3.  We now know super typhones, hurricanes, nor easters, other extreme lows and highs, etc can cause vortexes and where the next one will happen.

4.  Most importantly additional days before one happens give more time for all kinds of business can prepare as well as government ..

5.  RRs in particular can plan ahead to mitigate the results of cold temps, snow, high winds etc.. i

Cannot believe how in flight weather conditions are getting improved forecasts.

 

 

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Posted by zardoz on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:35 PM

desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

What did you expect when you decided to view a thread with a non-railroad title?  Yes, I know this a trains forum, but we're not that rigid around here (usually).

I think of this forum as a sort of coffee shop, where one can come in and more-or-less talk about a variety of subjects, except politics and religion.

There are lots of threads I do not visit simply because the thread title suggests subject matter in which I will likely not be interested.

 

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Posted by ndbprr on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:45 PM
I hope we only get 100" here in northern Michigan. Last year we got 188".
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Posted by SALfan on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:17 PM

greyhounds

Shoot, who knows?

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Don't worry about something you cannot control.  It's a wasted emotion. 

 

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, November 7, 2014 5:58 PM

Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

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Posted by desertdog on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:08 PM

zardoz

 

 
desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

 

 

What did you expect when you decided to view a thread with a non-railroad title?  Yes, I know this a trains forum, but we're not that rigid around here (usually).

 

I think of this forum as a sort of coffee shop, where one can come in and more-or-less talk about a variety of subjects, except politics and religion.

There are lots of threads I do not visit simply because the thread title suggests subject matter in which I will likely not be interested.

 

 

There are other threads here that are more suitable. Why start a new one? 

As for thread titles, sometimes they indicate the content, sometimes not.

I stand by my original question.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:12 PM

No!

 

We only discuss Rocket Science, Brain Surgery and Thread Police.  Are you one?

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:43 PM

desertdog
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Yup, there is something like a thousand threads dealing with just that subject, why don't you go read one and enjoy.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, November 7, 2014 6:45 PM

SALfan
 
greyhounds

Shoot, who knows?

I got through last winter, Polar Vortex and all.  The Good Lord willing, I'll get through this one, Polar Vortex or not.  

In two years I plan on moving to Florida where I'll probably be done in by either a python, alligator, or a class 5 huricane.

Don't worry about something you cannot control.  It's a wasted emotion. 

 

 

 

Beware - down here mosquito repellant ranks right behind food, clothing and shelter as a necessity of life.

 

 

Wait, you found one that works?

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:24 PM

desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm

Based on the shellacking the railroads got from the weather last year, the topic is, well, topical.

It may not be locomotive color schemes, but it does have to do with railroads...

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:58 PM

mudchicken

Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

 

Just remember - you will have to go work in all that "real weather" at some point.  It never fails!

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Posted by dakotafred on Friday, November 7, 2014 7:59 PM

edblysard
 
desertdog
Does anyone talk about trains on this forum anymore? John Timm
 

 

 

Yup, there is something like a thousand threads dealing with just that subject, why don't you go read one and enjoy.

The "polar vortex" -- latest buzzword -- certainly has implications for railroads, as we saw last winter. If we go off on a tangent about it -- so what?

Desertdog has dipped into the thread and found it wanting. Again, so what? Instead of hectoring the rest of us, let him simply move on to a thread that interests him more and leave the rest of us alone. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, November 7, 2014 8:38 PM

desertdog
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 Seems to me, if you find threads about trains lacking, the best thing to do would be to start one.  Try starting one about something that interests you, and see if it attracts interest from others with similar interests..... You never know.

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:46 PM

Mookie
 
mudchicken

Bring on the real weather! (We always can use a bigger snowcap up in the hills and the ski-bunnies have already been let down due to the late start at many ski areas.)

 

 

 

Just remember - you will have to go work in all that "real weather" at some point.  It never fails!

 

 

I've already had the 100+ , no shade beatdown.  Ready for sumpthin' cooler.

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