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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:26 PM

     Do I call you Mr. Dance, or the long form Mr. Gardendance?

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:59 PM

I reread the "Minnesota Increases Train Inspections" thread just in case it had drastically changed to support Mr. Siding's "mostly because those got replies asking the OP to please consolidate his threads". NONE of the replies asked to consolidate, or anything similar. It now has over 900 views and 22 replies.

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:50 PM

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Murphy Siding

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Murphy Siding

Well, no. What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out.

Did you mean looking "at" instead of "out"? In my copy and paste example on page 2 I saw several of his posts had more than 100 views, so I think in addition to your threshold of too many posts being too low your threshold of how many people count as someone seems to be too high.


tomatoes, potato...
Since you asked, I looked. There are 4 threads with over 100 views. That is mostly because those got replies asking the OP to please consolidate his threads or something similar.
If you discount the threads with higher views because of the replies, and you discount about one reply to make a link hot on every other thread, the math looks something like this:

For September, 2014 so far:

14 total threads
average views 49
average replies: 1


Your math doesn't agree with your conclusions, and I question your conclusions. You say the 4 threads with over 100 views have so many views because they "got replies asking the OP to please consolidate his threads or something similar"
How do you know the only reason they got so many views because of consolidation replies unless most of those replies asked for consolidation?
Most of over 100 is over 50. In my copy and paste list many posts back I only counted 12 of his threads, and none of them had over 50 replies, in fact only 1 of them, "Minnesota Increases Train Inspections", had more than 10 replies, it had 15. I think I remember reading that thread, and I don't remember any of them that said "please consolidate this with another recent thread on a similar subject". What other thread do you suggest would be appropriate to consolidate this one?

you now list 14 threads, apparently from a different sample since you say "September 2014 so far" and I looked at 2 pages at the time I researched, so it looks like we're comparing tomatoes and potatoes. And you're not clear if you already discounted the "discount threads with higher views because of replies" in your "14 threads Sept so far", but just in case lets say at the time there were 17 threads. You posted Sep 8, I get less than 3 threads per day. I don't know how many threads you expect in an average day, but I again think your threshold of how many threads an individual's allowed to post is too low.

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Gentlemen: I offer this for your thoughts: What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated? What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way? Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read?
Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB?

Well said Mookie.Smile, Wink & Grin
That's the whole point of this thread.
Some folks really need to learn some neticut. One lesson is DONT TRY TO RUIN THE FOROM for everyone else. It's not that complicated.

Germans and lady, or ladies if there are more than Mookie, and it doesn't hurt to remind everybody that we're probably more scared of them than they are of us, I've already mentioned that so far I haven't had any problem with the number of posts per page. Someday maybe I'll whistle a different tune if somebody consistently does commit the sky is falling behavior of 20 posts per page, but that hasn't happened yet. The pleasure of my life has not, to my knowledge, greatly reduced because I couldn't find the precious thread I wanted to read in reasonable scrolling distance.

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Somehow, all posts to the General Forum come to my email, and I can easily delete any that immediately irritate me or do not interest me. I could tell the site not to send them--but it does let me know when someone has posted a new thread or to an old thread.

I don't think I ever had to do anything to get the system to grey my last visited with no new posts thread.

I leave you with this hopefully amusing story, slightly related. An experienced political party representative was taking an apprentice through the graveyard, showing him how to collect prospective voter names. The new worker was having some difficulty reading one of the faded grave markers. The more experienced fellow told him "You do your best to get that name. He has just as much right to vote in this election as anybody else buried in this cemetery."
In similar vein, cajonsummit has just as much right to post as many threads to this forum as any of the rest of us.

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, September 8, 2014 10:18 PM
Murphy Siding

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Gentlemen:  I offer this for your thoughts:  What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated?  What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way?  Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? 

Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? 

   Ding! Ding!  We have a winner!

(And just where do you get off calling me a gentleman? Laugh)
Come, come, Murphy; if you are not a gentleman, she was not including you, doncha know? :) (I'm traveling, and my laptop again does not want to allow me to express myself properly by supplying emoticons.)xxxxxx (new paragraph) Somehow, all posts to the General Forum come to my email, and I can easily delete any that immediately irritate me or do not interest me. I could tell the site not to send them--but it does let me know when someone has posted a new thread or to an old thread.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2014 8:06 PM

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Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.

Always accepting new members.

And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 8, 2014 6:50 PM

schlimm

Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.

Always accepting new members.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, September 8, 2014 6:42 PM

schlimm

Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.

We have visited before and I am pretty sure you know that I am not terribly radical. So I would hope you would agree that this would make a more organized forum.   

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Posted by schlimm on Monday, September 8, 2014 6:33 PM

Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.

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Posted by chad s thomas on Monday, September 8, 2014 4:56 PM

Mookie

Gentlemen:  I offer this for your thoughts:  What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated?  What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way?  Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? 

Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? 

Well said Mookie.Smile, Wink & Grin

That's the whole point of this thread.

Some folks really need to learn some neticut. One lesson is DONT TRY TO RUIN THE FOROM for everyone else. It's not that complicated.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Monday, September 8, 2014 4:54 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2014 4:43 PM

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2014 4:41 PM

Euclid

Murray

Euclid

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? 

Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.

Please explain that with a specific example.  I don't recall making such a complaint.

That is the specific example...and I know (and you know) you have said that in this forum on numerous occasions.

Surely you are not coming down with a case of selective amnesia?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, September 8, 2014 3:28 PM

Mookie

Gentlemen:  I offer this for your thoughts:  What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated?  What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way?  Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? 

Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? 

   Ding! Ding!  We have a winner!

(And just where do you get off calling me a gentleman? Laugh)

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, September 8, 2014 3:17 PM

Gentlemen:  I offer this for your thoughts:  What if the Chatterbox was not consolidated?  What if all my silly postings were done one at a time, along with anyone else that wanted to comment in that way?  Wouldn't that tend to irritate everyone to have to scroll through all that "chatter" for 3 pages just to get to something they wanted to read? 

Isn't it better to consolidate like the Sunset Route and CB? 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, September 8, 2014 1:15 PM

Sittin' on the dock of the bay, watchin' the tide run away.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:58 PM

Murphy Siding
Fair enough.  Where's the thread where Dwight Branch told us we were all going to be in big trouble when Dad gets home?  It's not on page one any more.

Can you imagine the look on the moderators faces when they opened up their inboxes and there's like 50 report notices, 25 from our friend, Mr. Branch?

Laugh

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:56 PM

Euclid

Murray

Euclid

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? 

Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.

Please explain that with a specific example.  I don't recall making such a complaint.

And please make your response in the form of a haiku. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:55 PM

gardendance

Murphy,

what are the threads that you wanted to read but couldn't because they got pushed back to page 2? And please don't pick ones that would have been pushed to page 2 IF cajonsummit had put 20 threads on page 1, stick to ones that actually were on page 2.

  Fair enough.  Where's the thread where someone  told us we were all going to be in big trouble when Dad gets home?  It's not on page one any more.

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Posted by Euclid on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:47 PM

Murray

Euclid

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? 

Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.

Please explain that with a specific example.  I don't recall making such a complaint.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:40 PM

I did have something here, but it vanished. 

I blame the forum gods.  I must have dispeleaseth them.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:38 PM

Euclid

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? 

Bucky, you were the very individual who objected to a Moderator's control over the number of posts that an individual could conceivably place in the forum.

You obviously cannot have it both ways.

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:36 PM

Euclid

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person? 

Anyhow, let the moderators do their job.



Euclid
What gives individual members the right to express their personal objections by posting off topic nonsense and personal insults to shoot down a discussion that they don’t like or think is repetitive; or to start threads complaining about some other poster’s posts? 


Wait a second, I though you just said we should let the moderators sort that out???  Why are you not letting them do that? 


I'm so confused.


Smile

I don't take part in many other forums anymore (this is about it), but many of the ones I've been on through the years didn't allow posts that were nothing more than a link.  There had to be something of substance there.  Otherwise, it was just people trying to rack up views on their pictures/videos/etc. for some strange reason.

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by gardendance on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:22 PM

Murphy,

what are the threads that you wanted to read but couldn't because they got pushed back to page 2? And please don't pick ones that would have been pushed to page 2 IF cajonsummit had put 20 threads on page 1, stick to ones that actually were on page 2.

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Posted by Euclid on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:14 PM

Why not let the moderators and forum managers deal with the issue of too many posts by one person?  What gives individual members the right to express their personal objections by posting off topic nonsense and personal insults to shoot down a discussion that they don’t like or think is repetitive; or to start threads complaining about some other poster’s posts? 

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Posted by gardendance on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:05 PM

Murphy Siding

    Well, no.  What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out.

Did you mean looking "at" instead of "out"? In my copy and paste example on page 2 I saw several of his posts had more than 100 views, so I think in addition to your threshold of too many posts being too low your threshold of how many people count as someone seems to be too high.

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Posted by gardendance on Monday, September 8, 2014 12:01 PM

I already said I probably wouldn't care, since his thread titles don't interest me I probably wouldn't bother to click on them, or at least I haven't bothered to click on them so far, and it's not so much of a bother for me to make one extra click to get to page 2, or however many pages back I'd need to go to get check what threads have new posts since my last session.

Apparently you have had enough interest to have clicked on them, so I'm not sure what your complaint is. You either enjoy reading his threads enough that you have decided to continue clicking on them, or if you don't enjoy reading his threads you should stop, or complain about whomever's forcing you to click on them.

And of course he hasn't filled all of the open spaces on the front page, but apparently 5 or 6 for one person is too much for you, but 17, or 20, is not too much for me. Who knows, maybe someday somebody might do it enough for me finally to care, but I don't worry too much about cajonsummit, he's artfully managed to stay under my threshold, so count me as one of those good people who will do nothing and let evil triumph. Sorry I can't champion your cause to have no poster contribute more than 5 posts per page.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, September 8, 2014 11:45 AM

    Well, no.  What I'm suggesting is that someone consider others before filling the first page with links and videos that no one seems to be looking out.  Consider this- It may not be against the rules for your neighbor to plant his whole yard in kudzu or dandelions, but does that make it a good idea?  How far does this have to go, before his behavior does begin to bother you?  If he filled all 17 of the open spaces on the front page instead of just 5 or 6, would that be OK yet with you?

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Posted by gardendance on Monday, September 8, 2014 11:20 AM

Murphy Siding

     Would you feel the same if I replied to the last 20 of his threads saying "Hi! how's it going'?" so the whole 1st page was overgrown with his threads? 

Based on cajonsumit's thread titles, I probably would not be interested in opening them, so I probably wouldn't care one way or another if you posted a bunch of off topic replies.

I'd continue doing what I already said I do: scroll down until I see something grey, which meant I saw all the thread titles that had no new posts since my last session. How I'd feel would depend on if I bothered to click on any of those 20 threads, which I would do based on their titles.

IF, and that's a capital big IF, the titles implied something in which I'd be interested in reading and I found only 20 off topic "Hi! how's it going" I'd probably be upset at you having wasted so much of my time, and since posting off topic is against the rules I bet somebody might report you, or maybe moderators might notice your violation and might take action. I probably wouldn't be upset enough to bother reporting you, but I do hope you notice that you're suggesting breaking the rules in order, as far as I can tell, to protest what someone else is doing who's not breaking the rules.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:47 PM

     Thanks Chad.  The upside is I've lost 10 pounds over the last 2 weeks.  I figure if I keep this up until Christmas, I'll be looking good. Cool

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Posted by chad s thomas on Sunday, September 7, 2014 1:39 PM

Wow Indifferent I certainly hope things get better for you and your family Norris.

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