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Posted by Steve Sweeney on Monday, September 15, 2014 8:53 AM

Dear All:

I am locking this thread because of the vitriol exposed in the past two weeks. Thanks to all of you who respected my request last Friday to remove references to a fellow forum poster.

Please look for another thread in General Discussion which will hopefully help vent additional frustrations you may have. Ang and I look forward to talking to you there.

Best,

Steve S.

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Posted by BaltACD on Saturday, September 13, 2014 4:07 PM

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:01 PM

Murray

zugmann

schlimm

Nothing to comment on here except that the posters apparently like mutual admiration societies.

Always accepting new members.

And we'll have to show you the secret handshake.

But what about the group ring?

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Posted by selector on Saturday, September 13, 2014 11:26 AM

Sweeney is on staff at trains.com, and has asked, not demanded, that all members who read his request take the time to delete all of their own references to the person mentioned.  It seems an account may have been banned/locked/deleted [perhaps by request of the person himself]...not sure, but the request is really quite straightforward.  Also, since our hosts own both the forum and their TOS for it, the observation, if it has merit at all, is moot. 

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, September 12, 2014 10:41 PM

BaltACD

schlimm

BaltACD

So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.

That is a distortion of what Steve posted.  Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person mentioned]

Any is too many!

 

This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.

Is it just possible that you could admit you deliberately distorted a rather clear, simple declarative sentence?

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 12, 2014 9:12 PM

schlimm

BaltACD

So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.

That is a distortion of what Steve posted.  Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to Dwight Branch

Any is too many!

 

This is a internet forum - not life or death, or even Facebook.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, September 12, 2014 8:55 PM

BaltACD

So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.

That is a distortion of what Steve posted.  Not ALL posters, just the ones with references to [the person in question]

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, September 12, 2014 8:02 PM

Again I ask "so what"? We didn't pay for these fora, although those of you who have paid trains magazine subscriptions, or paid for trains newswire might think that entitles you to these fora. Management can do whatever they want whenever they want, and we can do little that's effective if we disagree. And I don't think we have any right to expect anything different.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 12, 2014 7:03 PM

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Balt,

I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.

Such pronouncements are veiled threats, as there is always a unspoken 'if you don't'!  Straight from early childhood parenting 101.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Friday, September 12, 2014 6:56 PM

Balt,

I didn't take it as a threat but as a request. Steve will finish the task on Monday.

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Posted by BaltACD on Friday, September 12, 2014 6:50 PM

So now Mr. Sweeney is threatening all posters in violation of the TOS.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, September 12, 2014 6:08 PM

Steve Sweeney

Good afternoon, all. 

Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.

All the best,

Steve S. 

Will Mr. Branch be required to remove his obnoxious and insulting/threating posts that are directed at other forum members as well?

It would seem only fair to require all members to follow the same guidelines.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, September 12, 2014 4:40 PM

Steve Sweeney

Good afternoon, all. 

Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.

All the best,

Steve S. 

  Fair enough, I guess, but there are posts by Dwight Branch that quote me quoting Dwight Branch.  I guess he'll have to edit those.  For what it's worth, you can certainly delete any of my posts if that makes it any easier.

     

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, September 12, 2014 4:30 PM

Steve Sweeney

Good afternoon, all. 

Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.

All the best,

Steve S. 

Why not just delete the whole thread?  That would at least be consistent, and this thread was baited for a flame war right from the first post. 

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, September 12, 2014 4:16 PM

gardendance

SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you

"Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"

Sorry, but all i can say is from "usually reliable sources."

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Posted by Steve Sweeney on Friday, September 12, 2014 3:32 PM

Good afternoon, all. 

Due to a recent flame-out, please review your posts on this thread and delete or remove any mention of your fellow forum poster, DwightBranch, by 9 a.m. Central time on Monday. Please also remove mere tangential references or allusions to DwightBranch.

All the best,

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2014 3:07 PM

ca·bal noun \kəˈbäl,ˈbal\                                                                                                                                                       

: a small group of people who work together secretly

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2014 3:04 PM

"A cabal is a group of people united in some close design together, usually to promote their private views or interests in a church, state, or other community, often by intrigue. "

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Posted by doghouse on Friday, September 12, 2014 2:05 PM
Cabal . . . isn't that in Afghanistan?
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Posted by gardendance on Friday, September 12, 2014 1:02 PM

That might be Cabal Libre, but I didn't think it was Jamaican.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:58 PM

So Cabal isn't a Jamaican liquor ?

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:52 PM

I don't even have cabal. I either watch dvd's I get from the library or use rabbit ear antenna.

Gosh, that joke never gets old.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:45 PM

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Murray
But Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group!  You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.

There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic.  And how do you define “same topic”?  This is a forum about trains.  Every post is on that same topic.  If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception.  There is very little actual repetition. 

And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them.  We have had several threads on track gage.  Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two.  Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing?  How about grade crossing collisions?  Are threads about that all on the same topic?

Bucky, I am not whining about anything.  I am point out how you disrupt the forum with your multiple threads on the same subject.

You and certain other rogue posters are the disruptive cabal here.

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:40 PM

SCHLIMM, now that you bring up Polish Falcon, you had said in a private message that he might be ohiorivertrail, and "if he is the troller named Raymond, he is actually a fairly dangerous person". You never answered my last message to you

"Ohio River said his name's Raymond. I found him irritating, but not dangerous. You already mentioned you never met him. How do you know he's a fairly dangerous person?"

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:32 PM

gardendance

Euclid, there are as many different opinions about how the forum should be run as there are users. And all of those opinions are equally valid, in other words worthless compared to how the operators care run their forum.

I don't think I'm in either of the 2 groups you mention, the disruptors or the ones who feel the disruptors are ruining the forum. I don't like the disruptive behavior, but I don't believe it's necessarily an organized group doing so, just a bunch of like minded folks, whom I feel it's best to ignore. I also don't think I'm in the "others not in the group" group, since I don't think the forum's ruined, either by the complainers, in this case cajonsummit complainers, or the people against whom they complain.

Cajon... appears to be in a different category, more like Polish Falcon in its purpose, if not methodology. OTOH, Euclid/Bucyrus makes threads and posts which "the disruptor group," formerly known as the "cotery/cabal" do not like, and then do their dance.

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Posted by Euclid on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:31 PM

Murray
But Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group!  You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.

There is no rule prohibiting multiple threads on the same topic.  And how do you define “same topic”?  This is a forum about trains.  Every post is on that same topic.  If you actually read the threads that you constantly whine about, you would see that your problem with them being the “same topic” is simply your own perception.  There is very little actual repetition. 

And besides, new people come into the forum and may see repeated points for the first time, and want to respond to them.  We have had several threads on track gage.  Some have included the discussion about gage changing projects carried out in just a day or two.  Should I be upset because Murphy Siding has started a new thread on gage changing?  How about grade crossing collisions?  Are threads about that all on the same topic?

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Posted by gardendance on Friday, September 12, 2014 12:04 PM

I may change my signature. I see no problem with multiple threads on the same subject. For those of you to whom it is a problem DON'T FEED THE TROLL. Don't point the opinion out to them, then they won't feign ignorance, and although they may still see no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject, they won't have any legitimate reason to say they see no problem.

But this thread's original point I believe was multiple posts about different subjects, or at least about cajonsummit's multiple posts, and when I bothered to look I saw multiple posts about different subjects. Yes, the posts had similar format, they were videos, or short blurbs with links, but the subjects in the threads were different.

So can we get another thread for the perceived problem of multiple threads on the same topic?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2014 11:49 AM

Euclid

Patrick,

I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.”  The latter is fluid as people come and go.  I am not in the "group" and glad of it. 

I have no objection to people having different opinions.  I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.

But Bucky...you ARE in a distinct group!  You along with another individual (and now possibly a third) are part of the cabal who insist on producing multiple threads on the exact same subject.

Each time this fact is pointed out to you, your reaction is feigned ignorance, or you insist on seeing no problem with the multiple threads on the same subject.

This had been the problem all along.

If you are going to create a thread on a specific topic.  Stick to that thread, and stop creating multiples.

Simple concept when you think about it. 

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, September 12, 2014 11:25 AM

 

Euclid

Patrick,

I only mentioned one "group" and “others not in the group.”  The latter is fluid as people come and go.  I am not in the "group" and glad of it. 

I have no objection to people having different opinions.  I am referring to people breaking the forum rules in order to get their way.

Like the rule about  "Don't use our forum to promote your forum, sweepstakes, contest, etc. (or YouTube channel) ?

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