For those that haven't seen it yet, here's the 2015 CP Holiday Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_jWaScptQ4
Right at the end around 3:25 there is a good shot as well
Watch it on YouTube (click the YouTube link at the bottom of the embedded video window in this thread) and then click the "Full screen" icon in the lower right corner of the video on the YouTube page. This will make the image fill the screen and be big enough to really see the crossover near the middle of the image. Watch starting about 1:20... you will see both "wings" switch several times (and not necessarily at the same time!).
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cefinkjrI was hoping, though, to see the movable point diamond in action as it is being lined for one route or the other.
It changed several times from about 0:55 to 1:28, but it was quick. At about 1:03 was the longest that it was switched.
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CBT What is that thing that looks like an uncompleted switch to the right of the speed limit sign? It has a switch box but i dont know what it is.
What is that thing that looks like an uncompleted switch to the right of the speed limit sign? It has a switch box but i dont know what it is.
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If you look at 0:27 in the video the camera moves back. They look like derails, maybe they are engaged when the bridge rotates.
On thing I find amazing, the drawbridge was only opened 1 time for water traffic during the entire installation.
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ChuckCobleigh Movable point diamond installation. This short time-lapse video is pretty entertaining. From BNSF.
Movable point diamond installation.
This short time-lapse video is pretty entertaining.
From BNSF.
ChuckAllen, TX
Looks that way to me. For a brief time, the camera is a little further back and shows them much better.
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Paul of Covington Right in the middle-- aren't those two tracks crossing with no provision to switch from one to the other? The angle is so acute that movable frogs would be used. (My guess, anyway.)
Notice that starting at about 30 seconds into the video, the south end of the Amtrak platform can be seen in the lower left of the frame for a while.
From the description below the video:
BNSF trains operating through a crossover at the Columbia River Bridge between the Fallbridge and Seattle subdivisions used to be limited to no more than 10 mph. However, the recent installation of a rare “movable-point diamond” has allowed for higher efficiency through this stretch of track near the Amtrak Station in Vancouver.
DeggestyI didn't see any track crossing another track; I had thought that diamonds were only at crossings.
Right in the middle-- aren't those two tracks crossing with no provision to switch from one to the other? The angle is so acute that movable frogs would be used. (My guess, anyway.)
Are those powered derails in the foreground?
DeggestyThey have to--look how fast the equipment is moved.
Looks almost like someone building a model railroad layout - lots of "snap track..."
In fact, given the model MOW equipment, I can just about see someone doing a similar video of such a project on their model railroad.
That was quite the speedboat, too...
Norm48327 ChuckCobleigh Movable point diamond installation. This short time-lapse video is pretty entertaining. From BNSF. Those guys sure work fast. LOL
Those guys sure work fast. LOL
I didn't see any track crossing another track; I had thought that diamonds were only at crossings.
That junction is somewhat familiar to me--I have been both ways on all three tracks--in to/out of Portland, from/to Pasco, and to/from Seattle.
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Norm
You have to have them first and second - they have to work. You're asking a lot out of a small group of mechanical and an even smaller group of communications employees.
Will the loco cameras tell the story ?
A little more detail ...
https://akronrrclub.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/csx-ns-trains-nearly-collide-in-fostoria/
Norfolk Southern spokesman David Pidgeon confirmed the incident.
“An eastbound NS train approached the diamond at Fostoria with a clear signal and when the crew spotted a northbound CSX train approaching the diamond, the NS crew put their train into an emergency brake (application),” Pidgeon told Trains.
The picture with the article makes a liar out of the caption--the UP power as on the NS track, and CSX was on its own track. NS would have had nothing to do with the CSX move.Signals will be checked, and both crews will fill their respective sample bottles. S.O.P. I'd be inclined to believe that the CSX crew was at fault since the picture shows him well beyond the last signal he would have encountered. Had there still been a tower at the plant, the radio chatter would have occurred a lot more quickly, and probably wouldn't have involved the NS train at all.P.S. A while back somebody mentioned a "safety sandwich". Nothing at all sinister about that--every so often the railroad will put on a small feed for crews, when a safety goal is met or exceeded (I was a safety captain once), and Savanna was (is?) a crew-change point.
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rdamonWould the NTSB be involved in this or would it be handled internally?
If any fed is involved, it'd be the FRA, but since it's essentially "traffic infractions," most likely it'll be handled internally. As has been suggested, maybe some time off...
True ... the chatter was on another forum.
rdamon Chatter is that the CSX was to wait for the NS. I bet a few small cups got filled up in the bathroom. http://reviewtimes.com/local-news/2015/11/30/close-call/
Chatter is that the CSX was to wait for the NS.
I bet a few small cups got filled up in the bathroom.
http://reviewtimes.com/local-news/2015/11/30/close-call/
Since the discription in the Review Times reports that NS was operating the CSX engines and CSX was operating the UP engines - Let's wait for some real evidence.
Red Signal violation by someone. Either train 'could' have been the violater. A investigation will determine the guilty.
Looks like there was a close call at Fostoria yesterday ..
https://youtu.be/8_AyFabk9Ik
BaltACDYou also have to comply with your company's policy concerning the use of air/dynamic braking.
Yeah. But when it comes to complying with orders.... terminology is weak for a reason.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
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zugmann BaltACD Spoken like someone in the movement office. (no offense, but not always reflective of what happens on the ground) When I was training, I had the opportunity to have a couple good engineers allow me to run balls to the wall up to a restriction, then using the air to grind it down just before. Not typical of everyday running (looking ahead is your goal, fuel conservation and all that), but good to know how to be able to. We're only human out here...
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Spoken like someone in the movement office. (no offense, but not always reflective of what happens on the ground)
When I was training, I had the opportunity to have a couple good engineers allow me to run balls to the wall up to a restriction, then using the air to grind it down just before. Not typical of everyday running (looking ahead is your goal, fuel conservation and all that), but good to know how to be able to. We're only human out here...
You also have to comply with your company's policy concerning the use of air/dynamic braking.
Not sure why you think it should have been a Rock Island 900-class but I'll take your word for it. I also bow to the encyclopedic knowledge (or terrific internet searching skills) that let you identify Oahu 85 so quickly. That's definitely the engine on film. I did a couple of quick searches for outside frame 4-6-0 and got nada.
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