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Semi-official Rochelle webcam discussion thread

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, October 31, 2014 2:25 PM

That sounds pretty much like UP's rules for a work zone.  The employee in chrge must communicate with averyone in charge of particular areas or occupations (very helpful when the work is spread out) and they must all be in the clear before any authorization is given to proceed past the red boards.

As we speak I'm listening to the trains on our line (the westbound freight trains will pass the webcam at Rochelle in a couple of hours) giving the proper horn message for workers doing the construction by the station in town.

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Posted by blhanel on Sunday, November 2, 2014 4:10 PM

Just caught the Rio Grande heritage unit leading a westbound UP stacker over the diamonds.

EDIT: Mixed stack/piggy-back, with a patched SP pusher.  Nice.

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Posted by chrisjmiller on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 8:30 AM

Oil train just gone through heading to Proviso with a Ferromex loco second in line.  Don't see those every day.

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, November 4, 2014 10:10 AM

A few minutes ago, I saw a UP coal train with the coal piled in in very few of the cars that I saw.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Friday, November 7, 2014 3:40 PM

Friday afternoon and I am noticing something that looks like maybe concrete ties spread on the north side of the UP tracks east of the diamonds.  It's hard to make out anything more due to the detail level of the image.

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Posted by rdettmer on Saturday, November 8, 2014 9:45 AM

i was there a week ago and saw marks on the rail for replaceing ties. thought concrete ties were supposed to last longer than wood ties. these ties haven't been in for even 10 years???

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Posted by rdettmer on Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:16 PM

today i saw a tiegang go thru the diamonds. are they changing the cement ties?

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Posted by cefinkjr on Saturday, November 8, 2014 8:32 PM
Rule of thumb on the NYC was 40 years for wood ties.

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Posted by chrisjmiller on Sunday, November 9, 2014 8:43 AM

Busy Sunday morning - a double stack train for Savanna with 9 locos and about 80 cars (I assume most of the locos are just 'passengers' being relocated).  then a tank train to Savanna with thye Southern heritage unit leading, and finally one to proviso with two ferromex units (so perhaps they're not as rare as I thought).

Although the new webcam is a huge step forward, I miss the still photos that used to be available on the old one (I guess they were triggered by motion sensors).

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:29 PM

2:25 pm CST on a Sunday - and the UP track gang parade is taking place????

Amazed to see ROW work on a Sunday - weather closing in on a project that can't wait until spring, or this more or less customary for UP?

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Posted by JimInCR on Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:41 PM

Yes, more than a dozen pieces of MOW equipment rolling back towards Chicago - including two with port-a-potties in tow!

Also a truck and a bunch of people by the signal box(?) on the other side of the diamonds.

A few night ago, a UP train was stopped just before the diamonds and a man was walking around all over the place with a flashlight before the train proceeded.

Since I started watching the new webcam when they put it in, it seems that their is a maintenance truck by the diamonds at least every other day.  I get the impression that these diamonds are a major mainteance headache and might be in for some major work.

Is their anybody on site that knows more?

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Posted by cefinkjr on Sunday, November 9, 2014 2:59 PM
One diamond is a maintenance headache. Four? Maybe headache to the fourth power would describe it.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, November 10, 2014 4:01 AM

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Is there anybody on site that knows more?

I've only been to Rochelle once (and only caught a couple of trains during my visit).  But I've been to Deshler several times - all you have to hear is the sound of train after train hammering across those diamonds to know that they're taking a beating.

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Monday, November 10, 2014 10:01 AM

Monday morning and there appears to be a hi-rail front loader on the north UP track and a white dump truck just north of the tracks.  The plot is afoot.

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Posted by rdettmer on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 4:38 PM

lots of tie gang machines again today.looks like they are doing a lot of work on the cement ties side of the tracks.

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Posted by rdettmer on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 7:46 AM

watching the tie gang right in front today. awesome

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:54 AM

rdettmer

watching the tie gang right in front today. awesome

Back today for more.  Four trucks and a track machine of some sort on the north UP track sitting west of the diamonds, plus a worker arc welding on the diamond of the south UP and west BNSF track.  Busy times and an interesting show.

I'm not afraid of hard work; I can sit and watch it all day long.

Edit: Three or four minutes later, the tamper is now working east of the diamonds.  Interesting.  Dust.  Noise.

Further Edit: This looks to be the Plasser Machine that was in use.

And...at 12:25 CST a WB UP stacker goes through on the south track.  Window closed, at least partially.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:27 PM

Blew $25 on a used LG 20" Flat Panel secondary monitor today (last of the big spenders Cool).

Rochelle now looks great.  At least, I think it would if there were anything happening.  The wind isn't even moving the tree tops!  Huh?

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Posted by ChuckCobleigh on Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:07 PM

Well, a little mid-afternoon arc welding going on on the diamond dearest the camera.  Two bigger UP trucks and two track workers.  Busy week manicuring the plant, I guess.

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Posted by xjqcf on Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:44 PM

The track equipment is apparently a major tie replacement project which has been progressing eastward. Old wooden ties are being replaced with concrete. Generally a work train loaded with concrete ties and an excavator modified to handle ties on the rear distributes the ties ahead of the gang. Eventually the gang works its way unspiking and ejecting the old ties then inserting the new concrete ties.  This is followed by clipping the rails and tamping/surfacing.

The welders were separate from the tie project; they were "local" maintenance forces trying to fix rough track issues UP is experiencing at the diamonds. Track 2 (closest to the camera) in particular, has quite a rocking problem which is quite visible on the cam.

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Posted by CatFoodFlambe on Monday, November 17, 2014 2:26 PM

BNSF seems to have a high speed limit over the crossing than does UP - is this an official policy, or does UP have other considerations in the area limiting speed?

Also - how is the interlocking set up to handling conflicting movements? Does one line have default ROW, or is some sort of first-come, first-served order wired into the ciruits?  And how far back is the "order of access" determined?

 

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Posted by eolafan on Monday, November 17, 2014 2:31 PM

It's 2:30 CST on Monday and the webcam is seemingly down...I can hear an occassional gust of "wind" but the screen is pure white.  Must be the sudden and significant pickup in the wind in these parts. Update at 2:35...it's back in operation...winds WNW at 23 mph and gusting to 40 mph lately.

 

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Posted by The Butler on Monday, November 17, 2014 2:35 PM

At 2:35 CST the camera is up and running fine.

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Posted by cefinkjr on Monday, November 17, 2014 2:36 PM

I don't know about speed limits but I have noticed that most westbound UP traffic seems to increase speed as it passes the web cam.  I've looked on Google Earth but can't see a reason for this.  Both lines cross the same streets at grade as they approach from the east.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, November 17, 2014 3:20 PM

eolafan
It's 2:30 CST on Monday and the webcam is seemingly down.

Given the westward facing camera (more or less) and the weather, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the window on the camera cover got plastered with snow, which later melted off.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, November 18, 2014 7:34 PM

Speed limit across the diamonds is 35 mph for both railroads.  

UP has Global 3 to the west.  It's possible that the slow-moving train has gotten a signal less than clear because of traffic involved with Global 3 (an approach signal, for example), which would cause the Automatc Train Control to knock it down to 20 mph maximum.  I'm not sure he'd be allowed to increase speed if the signal cleared, because he has to travel the length of the train from where the signal cleared for him.

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Posted by JimInCR on Thursday, November 20, 2014 5:12 PM

It's 5pm and the maintenance crew is working under lights at the diamonds.  They seem to be doing some arc welding.

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Posted by eolafan on Monday, November 24, 2014 8:59 AM

As I write this I know the camera is working (I can hear the train horns blowing for the diamonds) but it MUST be snowing hard and windy becuase hte ENTIRE camera lens is obscured by THICK WHITE SNOW...can't be anything else.

 

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Posted by Jjohnieray on Monday, November 24, 2014 9:00 AM

At 0855 the cam is covered with snow,it came in that fast. Might be a long winter.All please take care.

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Posted by gp18 on Monday, November 24, 2014 9:55 AM

I've seen a wiper operate occasionally, but I don't know if it is a manual or auto operation.

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