Firelock76 Deggesty Randy Stahl I looked at the pics and whatnot, I did not see the locomotives ?? Is it fuel burning from a ruptured locomotive fuel tank? Sodium Chlorate does not readily burn.... Randy Right; sodiaum chlorate provides oxygen, just as potassium chlorate expedites the burning of the charcoal and sulfur in gunpowder. Actually it's potassium nitrate with charcoal and sulfur that makes old-fashioned "black" gunpowder. Modern smokeless is a bit more complicated. I believe chlorates are used in the primers that set the charge off, what variations of chlorates I don't know.
Deggesty Randy Stahl I looked at the pics and whatnot, I did not see the locomotives ?? Is it fuel burning from a ruptured locomotive fuel tank? Sodium Chlorate does not readily burn.... Randy Right; sodiaum chlorate provides oxygen, just as potassium chlorate expedites the burning of the charcoal and sulfur in gunpowder.
Randy Stahl I looked at the pics and whatnot, I did not see the locomotives ?? Is it fuel burning from a ruptured locomotive fuel tank? Sodium Chlorate does not readily burn.... Randy
I looked at the pics and whatnot, I did not see the locomotives ?? Is it fuel burning from a ruptured locomotive fuel tank? Sodium Chlorate does not readily burn....
Randy
Actually it's potassium nitrate with charcoal and sulfur that makes old-fashioned "black" gunpowder. Modern smokeless is a bit more complicated. I believe chlorates are used in the primers that set the charge off, what variations of chlorates I don't know.
Johnny
BaltACD2. Cited for having a unsecured container on his truck3. Cited for log book violations
Russell
NTSB gave a short history report on the truck driver and the incident in general on local TV-
1. Cited for talking on cell phone while operating his truck2. Cited for having a unsecured container on his truck3. Cited for log book violations4. Cited for multiple speeding violations
On board video indicated truck did not stop for crossing. Train was sounding horn and ringing bell in conformace with rules and was traveling 49 MPH with track speed being 50 MPH.
Investigation continues.
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narig01Couple of comments. Could the explosion been the fuel in one of the locomotive fuel tanks? Diesel will make a big whallup but it burns slower then other combustibles. (hence a big fire ball but not a lot of blown out windows).
But there was indeed a lot of blown out windows. From the sketchy news and the aerial images, it seems that the entire face of the adjacent building was heavily damaged, including the destruction of all windows. And that appears to be maybe 100 feet back from the tracks.
It is hard to tell from those spectator videos, but one appears to have knocked people off their feet, and they were many hundreds of feet away. So it was a powerful explosion. I would say it was dozens of times more powerful than the Boston bombing explosion, for example.
Obviously it should be no mystery as to what the train was carrying.
The derailment caused a big explosion, so it ought to be rather obvious what material exploded. There was plenty of buzz about the possibility of hazardous materials. Is there no curiosity in the news media about what it was that exploded? Somebody here speculated that it was ammonium nitrate. I have understood that A.N. will not explode when exposed to fire in quantities as small as railcars.
ccltrainsHave you ever seen an 18 wheeler going the speed limit on a freeway? Good luck finding one obeying the speed law.
18 wheelers, we have 28 wheelers out here!
I have NEVER seen one speeding out here, many travel well under the 75mph speed limit.
I have long since concluded that there is no speeding out here because there is nobody in front of you to pass.
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The truck owner probably only carries 1-2 million in insurance. Good luck. You cannot get blood out of a turnip. A friend who is a highway patrol officer says that virtually every truck inspected at a weigh station has atleast one equipment violation. Is it any wonder that we have so many truck wrecks? Have you ever seen an 18 wheeler going the speed limit on a freeway? Good luck finding one obeying the speed law.
Some nice snips from the NY Daily News online article, for the journalist bashers out there:
First, one of the cleanest leads I have seen in quite a while:
"A freight train derailed near Baltimore Tuesday after colliding with a garbage truck at a railroad crossing, triggering an explosion, flames and black smoke felt and seen miles away."
Some good news:
"Two people aboard the CSX train escaped injury, officials said."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/train-collides-big-rig-derails-explosion-flames-baltimore-article-1.1356679#ixzz2UelutTTx
(Nice that when you do a copy and paste from the NYDN site, you automatically get a link to the article.)
Oh my gosh i just found out about this that is NUTS, I mean A TRUCK DOSENT SEE A TRAIN OK REALLY. Great i bet some Skippy go lucky railfan waiting for that train and a TRUCK hits it and BOOM bye bye train. gosh sometimes people really bug me. BTW this is just my opinion.
There seems to be a few covered hoppers in the area of the fire. Ammonium nitrate perhaps?
As Paul Harvey would say: "...The rest of the story is..."
Linked to additional information (from The New York Post: @ http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/train-collides-big-rig-derails-explosion-flames-baltimore-article-1.1356679
"Train collides with garbage truck and derails, with explosion, flames near Baltimore, Maryland.""News footage shows a massive zig-zag of cars in Rosedale."
So, what was the exploding cargo on the cargo train? Is it that hard to learn what it was?
I'm especially impressed that the youtube correspondents thought to bring their baby with them for the on-the-spot report. He is evidently being immersed in a Baltimore language course.
csxns Hope that trucker pays for everything.
Hope that trucker pays for everything.
Oh yeah, just garner his wages for the next 3000 years.
It's been fun. But it isn't much fun anymore. Signing off for now.
The opinions expressed here represent my own and not those of my employer, any other railroad, company, or person.t fun any
Looks like another trucker trying to beat the train. When are some people gonna learn?
Oh, "explicit language" on that posted video's putting it mildly. Herb Morrison covering the crash of the "Hindenburg" it isn't.
Perhaps they should mandate positive truck control?
Norm
One more truck driver caused the incident.
One less "cargo " train out there.
A short time ago there was reported a Breaking News Story of a Train Derailment in the White Marsh areaof the City/County line near Rosedale
Link to Baltimore Sun article @ http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/breaking/bal-train-derails-in-white-marsh-20130528,0,6849185.story
3:09 p.m. EDT, May 28, 2013
"...Update: A video that appears to show the explosion has been posted here. Warning: explicit language.
Authorities in Baltimore County were responding to a report of a train derailment in the White Marsh area that caused a loud explosion and sent a plume of white smoke into the sky that could be seen clearly from downtown Baltimore.
Baltimore County police posted to Twitter that a cargo train had derailed in the 7500 block of Lake Drive, near an industrial park. Initial reports were that no one was hurt, but hazardous material teams were responding to the scene..."
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